raptop changed the topic of #KSPOfficial to: Kerbal Space Program official channel | versions: KSP1 1.12.3 http://bit.ly/ksp112update | Rules: http://tinyurl.com/KSP-Rules | "modcall" to call ops | Δv maps: https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.png https://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png | Δv is real, and will hurt you
<raptop> !outcome add You lose your forklift certification.
<LunchBot> Added outcome: You lose your forklift certification.
<raptop> !fixup s/programmable magic/programmable magic./
<raptop> !fixup mission s/programmable magic/programmable magic./
<raptop> hm
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<Althego> heh no virgin orbit launch today
* TheKosmonaut pokes raptop with a pointed stick
<raptop> ow
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<XXCoder> ;mission
<LunchBot> You upgrade R&D. Red5 ends your mission with The People's Elbow.
<XXCoder> .. okay lol
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<FLHerne> raptop: LunchBot adds punctuation if it's missing, or ought to
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<Althego> leet time
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<Althego> already launched
<sandbox> 1337
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<FLHerne> ;mission add The Wickwick Event occurs.
<LunchBot> Added mission: The Wickwick Event occurs.
<FLHerne> ;mission add You try to unfold an Atlas.
<LunchBot> Added mission: You try to unfold an Atlas.
<FLHerne> hm, atlases don't really fold
<FLHerne> ;mission del Atlas
<LunchBot> Deleted mission: "You try to unfold an Atlas."
<FLHerne> ;mission add You crack open an Atlas.
<LunchBot> Added mission: You crack open an Atlas.
<raptop> Cracking open an Atlas with the boys
<raptop> (It's a cold one from the LOX)
<raptop> ...anyway, googling "wickwick event" isn't helpful?
<packbart> it's those Falk maps with patented unfold-once technology
<packbart> raptop: maybe. what events does a finnish childrens book publisher trigger in general?
<raptop> packbart: A CK-class restructuring event, where everyone becomes a moomin?
<packbart> bing would like to know if I meant "Warwick Events", "Your sustainable event partner"
<raptop> ...
* raptop flips sign. Zero [0] days since I have confused Sweden and Finland
<packbart> "I can see both Boeing and Bechtel hoping for a Wickwick event before the SLS clears the tower. The pork would reach monumental proportions!"
<raptop> ???
<packbart> the Internets seem to be undecided how much a RUD needs to blow up before it's a Wickwick Event. ( https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?t=1484968&start=80 )
<raptop> ah
<packbart> !mission
<LunchBot> You attempt to sue Jebediah Kerman. The Kraken dines on your vessel.
<packbart> Jeb got some tough lawyers
<packbart> !mission
<LunchBot> Goliath National Products has contracted you to develop the world's first orbit-capable, man-rated, slingshot launcher! Suddenly, you discover all your kerbals are BadS.
<packbart> well, then. we've got a full crew
<FLHerne> raptop: AIUI, the Wickwick event is a SLS failure of significant magnitude to result in its cancellation
<FLHerne> which is a thing I've publically wished for for a couple of years, so I find it amusing that it has a name now
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<raptop> FLHerne: I'm concerned that the only way that can happen is if it kills a couple of senators
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<packbart> nah, they've got enough of those
<packbart> launch pads are rare goods
<packbart> (so they'd rub their hands and bid for new contracts to build another one)
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<Althego> another launch today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGnlt-vto7o
<Mat2ch> Interesting. Seems to be a good day to launch something
<Althego> one was scrubbed
<Althego> 4 launches in 25 hours
<Althego> i didnt know the coins of the united states are so confusing because they dont have the value written on them
<raptop> The most confusing thing about coins is that we have a shortage of some kinds (notably quarters)
<Althego> here we dont even have 1 and 2 coins anymore because they are t wo expensive to produce. so everything operates by rounding to closest 5
<FLHerne> raptop: perhaps 'Ballast' Nelson will take another joyride
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<raptop> ...I'll accept that
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<funkenstein> which of the two links is the updated delta v map
<funkenstein> chvneee or gbolsst
<raptop> ...if they're both post 1.1 or so, it's fine?
<funkenstein> I'm just trying to figure out if 1500 dv is enought to return from duna/ike
<funkenstein> it looks like I need 1450, is that right
<raptop> If by return you mean get to LDO (presumably to rendezvous with a return craft)
<FLHerne> funkenstein: both maps pretty much agree
<funkenstein> oh, I meant to return from orbit of duna to the surface of kerbin
<funkenstein> or ike
<FLHerne> one gives pretty-much-optimal Δv values for atmospheric takeoffs, the other one is closer to what normal people will achieve
<funkenstein> I have a capture that brings me through the sois of both
<raptop> 1300+360+250+130 = 2040 m/s; 1450+360+250+130=2190 m/s, so no where near enough to get a Kerbin intercept from Duna
<funkenstein> woof
<funkenstein> alright
<FLHerne> raptop: orbit of duna, surely don't add the 1300?
<funkenstein> I tried too hard to keep the craft under 30 tons
<raptop> Oh, I thought he was starting from Dunaś surface
<funkenstein> she
<raptop> *she
<funkenstein> orbit of 1mm
<funkenstein> Mm
<raptop> Hrm, high orbit
<FLHerne> 1450 should be ok I think
<funkenstein> or, if I do it at ike, 560k
<funkenstein> alrighty
<funkenstein> thanks
<funkenstein> ;mission
<LunchBot> You fill all your tanks with soda pop. A small dog accidentally eats the subsequent interstellar war.
<raptop> Anyway, 1500 m/s for getting home from a high orbit is probably enough, unsure if dropping your periapsis would reduce overall costs
<funkenstein> kosmischund
<funkenstein> it might, but I was hoping to get a science jr report from orbit of both planets, so I would like to keep my current trajectory
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<funkenstein> whoops, vessel two is now orbiting the sun
<funkenstein> ;outcome add You aim for home, but catch the Sun. Very inspirational.
<LunchBot> Added outcome: You aim for home, but catch the Sun. Very inspirational.
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<raptop> Please remember to wear oven mitts or similar thermal protection while holding a star
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<funkenstein> quite
<funkenstein> Introducing new and improved SunGrabbers, for grabbing your HOT, HOT Sun!
<funkenstein> i HOPE THERE'S ENOUGH SNACKS FOR 3 YEARS
<funkenstein> oh geex,m caps lock
<funkenstein> geez*
<funkenstein> ;outcome add A rogue M comes out of nowhere, smacking into you.
<LunchBot> Added outcome: A rogue M comes out of nowhere, smacking into you.
<darsie> A very light red dwarf might be 300 K on the surface.
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<darsie> There might be life on its surface.
<darsie> Heavier elements would sink in the hydrogen, though.
<raptop> 300 K sounds like a Y dwarf
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<Pinkbeast> After a bunch more Elcano I've concluded Moho is a really silly shape
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<packbart> !mission
<LunchBot> You search for the fabled Gas Planet II. You make two important discoveries in rapid succession: Your glasses have been on the floor all this time, and that marker you've been burning along is actually the retrograde one.
<raptop> oh no
<packbart> sooo, with the glasses on, I see only one Gas Planet
<packbart> retrograde orbits are the cool kids' orbits, anyway
<packbart> prograde is such a burgeois orientation
<raptop> All hail the damocloids
<funkenstein> 24.23 twr
<funkenstein> a happy dance ensues