00:06 <taniwha> ;mission add You launch a ship using a null space drive.

00:06 <LunchBot> Added mission: You launch a ship using a null space drive.

00:08 <raptop> !outcome add Your strings are null-terminated.

00:08 <LunchBot> Added outcome: Your strings are null-terminated.

00:08 <raptop> >_>

00:08 <raptop> <_<

00:08 <taniwha> but that's normal!

00:09 <raptop> That's the joke!

00:09 <raptop> It looks like a bad outcome, but it's completely normal

00:09 <SporkWitch> just pipe all the output to /dev/null

00:10 <taniwha> I couldn't help but think of null space drives and null space communicators when I recently (re?)learned about null spaces.

00:18 <raptop> heh

08:26 <Mat2ch> !mission

08:26 <LunchBot> You search for the main menu sandcastle. No pun intended.

08:28 <Althego> that fell flat

08:31 <Althego> zombanwa

08:35 <darsie> what?

08:42 <Althego> how a japanese spekaing zombie greets you

11:37 <Althego> leet time

11:48 <Mat2ch> !mission

11:48 <LunchBot> You spend hours explaining in increasingly enraged tones how dividing by zero is not "scary" or "evil" or capable of "breaking the universe," it's just impossible, and everyone needs to shut up about it already. Failure is not an option, but happens anyway.

12:02 <Althego> hehe

12:02 <Althego> basically failing at explaining the impossibility of division by zero

12:09 <FLHerne> nono

12:10 <FLHerne> dividing by zero isn't an option, but happens anyway and breaks the universe

12:10 <FLHerne> the people you were arguing with were right

12:11 <FLHerne> it's quite easy to do impossible things that break the universe in KSP, ask Danny

12:15 <darsie> Miracles are bugs in the universe.

13:09 <Mat2ch> !mission

13:09 <LunchBot> You present an Erinaceinae with a dilemma. The IRC server crashes.

15:40 <raptop> poor hedgehog...

15:41 <Mat2ch> !mission

15:41 <LunchBot> You hire Big Man Japan for your next mission. For all the resultant horror, grief, and pain, you put your differences behind you and try again. For science. You monster.

16:08 <Pinkbeast> Oh LV-Ns how I love your 12 minute burns

16:12 <Mat2ch> and the physics timewarp that only goes to 4x.

16:12 <Mat2ch> and is not very precise.

16:13 <Althego> 12 minutes long burn is not even that long

16:13 <Althego> you can do it in 2 parts if you are in kerbin orbit

16:13 <SporkWitch> better timewarp mod will allow higher levels of physics warp, including when in vacuum, to make those long burns more bearable

16:13 <Mat2ch> About precision. I'm playing an old game right now, a flight simulator. Originally from 1993. Back than it ran awfully and wasn't released until 1997 or so.

16:13 <Pinkbeast> I have it but I mostly just read during the long burns

16:14 <Mat2ch> I wondered for some time how they managed to have real 3d done only on the cpu. Until I remembered: They didn't use floats.

16:14 <Pinkbeast> Eh, Aviator (1983) has 3D scenery :-)

16:19 <Mat2ch> lines don't count.

16:19 <Mat2ch> ;)

16:19 <Mat2ch> I'm talking about real scenery here, multiple aircrafts in the air

16:20 <Pinkbeast> Aviator has multiple aircraft in one mode

16:20 <Mat2ch> a 3d view of the plane from the outside (with a function to see it in a flyby)

16:20 <Mat2ch> Buildings, hills

16:20 <Mat2ch> cities (also not very detailed)

16:20 <Pinkbeast> Aviator has buildings! It even has a bridge to fly under.

16:20 <Mat2ch> *although

16:22 <Pinkbeast> More seriously, re simplifications, Elite (1984) had the ingenious idea of making you the centre of a polar coordinates universe. This not only simplifies a lot of the flight maths, it means the player's ship movement happens quite precisely - the further away from you something is, the more imprecisely its movement is simulated, but the player can't tell because it's a long way away.

16:22 <Mat2ch> And I'm talking about drawing 3d objects with 30 fps in 1993 for consumer computers. Totally new back in the days

16:23 <Pinkbeast> Nah, loads of 16-bit games were doing that (including Arc Elite, 1991)

16:24 <Mat2ch> How many at the same time?

16:25 <Pinkbeast> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_(video_game)#/media/File:Arcelite_through_vipers.jpg

16:25 <Pinkbeast> (but also, not delayed until '97)

16:26 <Pinkbeast> Polygon graphics in flight sims are I think F-19 (1988)

16:27 <Althego> hehe f-29 retaliator

16:28 <Althego> the siren sound when your plane was seriously damaged, through the pc speaker, it still echoes in me

17:32 <a_flayer> too tired to play kerbal

22:01 <Snoke> opa

23:00 <funkenstein> ;mission

23:00 <LunchBot> You finally cave in and push the big red button. Unbeknownst to the employees at the KSP centre, Gus Kerman secretly runs a restaurant chain that serves Fried Chicken.

23:00 <funkenstein> ;mission

23:00 <LunchBot> You try to get your rocket out of a flat spin. Your Riemann manifold is punctured.

23:00 <funkenstein> ;mission add You achieve 0 turning radius.

23:00 <LunchBot> Added mission: You achieve 0 turning radius.