<LunchBot>
You create a hyperdrive powered SSTO out of genetically modified macaroni noodles. Your efforts are mostly remembered through a humorous webcomic.
<funkenstein>
I've gotten that combo before
<funkenstein>
;mission
<LunchBot>
You perform gastric bypass surgery on the Deep Space Kraken. You are not going to space today.
<funkenstein>
presumably because I'm already in deep space tending to the kraken?
<funkenstein>
I was planning to send a plane to laythe by rocket,but I noticed I was short on dv
<funkenstein>
can you coast to the surface onb duna or no
<raptop>
probably not
<raptop>
something something quick save?
<funkenstein>
alright. any idea on what I'm doing wrong with my spaceplanes? Or should I wait til flherne is aroumd
<funkenstein>
I remember them being a plane person
<raptop>
I'm semi-okay with them, so I guess a screenshot could be helpful
<Pinkbeast>
Duna's atmo is way too thin
* raptop
really should be used to 0.05 atm duna, but I keep on expecting 0.2 atm
<funkenstein>
those are the only engines that could get the thrust up to 1
<funkenstein>
the twr
<raptop>
yeah, I'd be worried about the glide ratio
<funkenstein>
not enough wing. but I cant't seem to make a craft much smaller and I don't have wings that are very large yet
<Pinkbeast>
Are these images in a really weird aspect ratio? But if I did want to glide down on Duna, I'd have huge wide wings with the strength/size ratio very low, not big engines
<raptop>
The images imply a triple monitor setup, I think(!)
<Pinkbeast>
Even so, Kerbin's a _very_ oblate spheroid in the first
<raptop>
I mean, I guess there's putting together wings from multiple panels if they're available
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<funkenstein>
they are and they do.
<funkenstein>
I got it to 1.01 twr
<funkenstein>
but it's teeny and has very little potential for travel beyond the atmosphere
<Pinkbeast>
Why a >1 TWR on a glider?
<funkenstein>
the idea was to glide down to laythe's surface and then fly back home
<funkenstein>
using a plane
<Pinkbeast>
OK, but to fly up doesn't need a >1 surface TWR
<funkenstein>
however I was too short for laythe so I wondered about heading to duna
<Pinkbeast>
(with wings)
<funkenstein>
I
<funkenstein>
what
<funkenstein>
oh
<funkenstein>
I feel foolish
<Pinkbeast>
Eh, I think we were both talking at cross purposes
<funkenstein>
well I have now learned how to take off with only one wing
<Pinkbeast>
(I've a Laythe descent-and-ascent plane in the current game, glider to jet to drop the wings and jet and a rocket stage to orbit)
<funkenstein>
can you show me screenshots lol
<funkenstein>
so you glide down, drop your wings on the ground, fly back up on smaller wing and intake air, then drop those wings as well and use the rocket stage?
<funkenstein>
also I haven't got much beyond the 5th tech tier
<Pinkbeast>
Not right now, re screenshots, but no - same wings down and up, and when the jets flame out the whole wing-and-jet drops and a rocket stage goes to orbit.
<Pinkbeast>
(and this is with a ton of mods, but ones that don't give better performance than stock AFAICT. And in a FAR world.)
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<funkenstein>
nice
<funkenstein>
no idea what that means but nice. I don't know how to mod my steam iteration
<Pinkbeast>
FAR is Ferram Aerospace Research, models the shape of your ship in the air.
<Pinkbeast>
Planes fly more like planes.
<funkenstein>
I have ckan, used it on my other iteration
<Pinkbeast>
Er, so you have used Steam to create a whole new install you can't mod?
<funkenstein>
but I have no idea how to deal with the copying and all that. I'm terrible with computers (my mom thought they would inspire violence somehow)
<funkenstein>
yes
<Pinkbeast>
... stop using Steam and have an install you can mod?
<funkenstein>
but the install was from igggames and I want the updated version
<Pinkbeast>
Uh, I wouldn't admit to having a yarred install here
<Pinkbeast>
... but you can just copy the entire directory out of steam
<funkenstein>
and I know this iteration is moddable I just don't know howq to copy it over to ckan or whatever and the other iteration is functional but broken somehow, it says all the mods I want to install are installed but they will not actually load into the game
<funkenstein>
I can't even interact with the mods outside of the search list
<funkenstein>
blah blah'
<Pinkbeast>
Leaving aside the unmentionable install, you can just find the entire KSP directory in your steam directory, copy and paste it elsewhere, it'll work.
<funkenstein>
ok
<funkenstein>
is the directory a window I can open
<Pinkbeast>
Windows calls directories "folders"
<funkenstein>
okay then
<funkenstein>
so I look under steam in the file manager thing
<Pinkbeast>
I'm starting to wonder if you're perhaps playing a prank
<funkenstein>
why
<Pinkbeast>
Well, Windows hasn't had a "file manager" for some time.
<funkenstein>
whatever it's called, the only windows I'm familiar with is xp and this computer is weird to me
<Pinkbeast>
And what _is_ this computer?
<funkenstein>
I miss the red x in the corner aa
<funkenstein>
it's something my partner built, uuumm
<funkenstein>
it's windows for sure, I know it's got a ryzen 7 3thousand something, an nvidia gforce graphpics card, a tuff gamoing board that I don't recall the model of, some fans
<Pinkbeast>
Does it have a Start menu?
<funkenstein>
for sure
<funkenstein>
I'm not even 25 yet I shouldn't be this inept
<Pinkbeast>
Does that let you get to Computer, or "This PC"?
<funkenstein>
it shows a menu of "most used," "life at a glance," and "play and explore"
<Pinkbeast>
What do you see in the "file manager thing" ?
<Pinkbeast>
Look, I cannot explain this tonight. But it can be done.
<funkenstein>
"steamchina" sounds sus
<funkenstein>
I'm sorry
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<Izaya>
you can use CKAN to copy your instance I'm p sure
<Izaya>
oh, gone
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<funkenstein>
;mission
<LunchBot>
You dive deep into Jool in pursuit of helium-3. You forget about the mission and get lost in wikipedia for the next 12 hours.
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<Althego>
owl is singing
<raptop>
...who labels a water bottle "ethanol"?
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<XXCoder>
;mission
<LunchBot>
You stir the tanks. Bill crashes into Ike at 7800 m/s.
<XXCoder>
must have ben potent mixture
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<Izaya>
funkenstein: I'm p sure you can use CKAN to copy your instance elsewhere
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<packbart>
raptop: better than not removing the "juice" label from bottles filled with paint thinner :)
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<Althego>
kikkerikii
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<darsie>
.
<SporkWitch>
didn't get the job :(
<darsie>
Which job?
<SporkWitch>
one i had a second interview for the other day. Seemed to go really well, but got an email yesterday saying they decided not to proceed :(
<darsie>
Did you misfire spells?
<Althego>
bought a spork to a knife fight :)
<Althego>
brought, annoying ly smilar words
<SporkWitch>
dunno. sent them an email back thanking them for their time and asking for feedback; hopefully they answer
<darsie>
lightyear
<Althego>
not much buzz around buzz lightyear :)
<SporkWitch>
went woke, went broke
<packbart>
huh. there is actually news about Buzz Lightyear. I didn't know there was a new movie with some fallout over voice actors
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<packbart>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You see that one of your control rods is stuck and manually pull it up. Your ship is too wide to complete your mission.
<packbart>
well, duh. that means it's too low too pull the rod up
<packbart>
typical pancake design
<Mat2ch>
packbart: yeah, because Tim Allen was to voice in the animated movies and now it is Chris Evans.
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<funkenstein>
what is ythe best autostrut setting for radially attached boosters, and why is it grandparent part?
<SporkWitch>
i generally use heaviest for those, since they'll usually strut to the main booster; wouldn't want them on grandparent, as i'd think that would be less stable given how far away it is, i'd expect it to CAUSE wobble
<funkenstein>
hmm
<funkenstein>
with heavy I set a little bit of wobble, but with all the triangles I get with grandparent, I see stiff rockets
<funkenstein>
;mission\
<funkenstein>
;mission
<LunchBot>
You invite all four orange suits, the KSC staff, and a few dozen gray suits into an among us tournament. Your satellite is repurposed by the NSA to spy on librarians.
<funkenstein>
;outcome add You burn up exiting the atmosphere, exploding at 50,200m
<LunchBot>
Added outcome: You burn up exiting the atmosphere, exploding at 50,200m
<funkenstein>
;mission
<LunchBot>
You try to raise money to upgrade your computers on the ground and on your craft. In theory, the mission is a complete success!
<funkenstein>
grandparent part appears to make the smae pattern as heaviest part, but taller
<funkenstein>
I get a two dimensional star with heaviest, grandparent looks the same from above but from the side it is a latticework
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<Azander>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You try a rover race with DarkMultiPlayer. Kerbn cannot into spaec today.
<funkenstein>
;mission
<LunchBot>
You decide to proceed with the launch, despite the knife storm. You don't get FAR.
* raptop
has not been throwing knives around!
<raptop>
!Mission
<raptop>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You attempt to fix all grammatical errors in kmath's missions. But Althego already fixed it incorrectly. Full Stop.