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<Izaya> oops
<Izaya> oops
<raptop> gotta do something to upstage the JWST image release
<raptop> gotta do something to upstage the JWST image release
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<funkenstein> ;outcome add it was all just a coup to get more snacks.
<funkenstein> ;outcome add it was all just a coup to get more snacks.
<LunchBot> Added outcome: it was all just a coup to get more snacks.
<LunchBot> Added outcome: it was all just a coup to get more snacks.
<funkenstein> ;mission
<funkenstein> ;mission
<LunchBot> You add FOOF to your floof. You spend all that remains of your budget on cleaning up the mess you made.
<LunchBot> You add FOOF to your floof. You spend all that remains of your budget on cleaning up the mess you made.
<funkenstein> burnt floofers
<funkenstein> burnt floofers
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<funkenstein> ;mission
<funkenstein> ;mission
<LunchBot> You can't stop turning off of the runway and into the VAB. The kerbonauts don't have enough fuel to come back so you send a Kerbal X to rescue them.
<LunchBot> You can't stop turning off of the runway and into the VAB. The kerbonauts don't have enough fuel to come back so you send a Kerbal X to rescue them.
<funkenstein> ;mission
<funkenstein> ;mission
<LunchBot> Red5 wanted to test how painful cactus was in zero-g. Suddenly, you discover all your kerbals are BadS.
<LunchBot> Red5 wanted to test how painful cactus was in zero-g. Suddenly, you discover all your kerbals are BadS.
<funkenstein> ;mission
<funkenstein> ;mission
<LunchBot> KSC staff swear too much on the job. You are targeted and destroyed by the [REDACTED] array embedded in the Vallhenge.
<LunchBot> KSC staff swear too much on the job. You are targeted and destroyed by the [REDACTED] array embedded in the Vallhenge.
<XXCoder> ;mission
<XXCoder> ;mission
<LunchBot> You try to break the laws of physics. Failure is not an option, but happens anyway.
<LunchBot> You try to break the laws of physics. Failure is not an option, but happens anyway.
<XXCoder> aw physics no breaky
<XXCoder> aw physics no breaky
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<Mat2ch> Here's the video about it.
<Mat2ch> Here's the video about it.
<Mat2ch> Looks like they tested the turbo pumps and somehow the gas ignited?
<Mat2ch> Looks like they tested the turbo pumps and somehow the gas ignited?
<Mat2ch> Ah, commenters speculate that they tested the methan pumps and pumped lots of it through the engines and it exploded with the surrounding air
<Mat2ch> Ah, commenters speculate that they tested the methan pumps and pumped lots of it through the engines and it exploded with the surrounding air
<Mat2ch> so it is possible that this didn't even damage much
<Mat2ch> so it is possible that this didn't even damage much
<Althego> this is not delta iv
<Althego> this is not delta iv
<Althego> shouldnt make that
<Althego> shouldnt make that
<Mat2ch> But fireworks!
<Mat2ch> But fireworks!
<Mat2ch> We had to wait so long for one
<Mat2ch> We had to wait so long for one
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<SporkWitch> JWST release stream: https://www.youtube.com/embed/21X5lGlDOfg?rel=0
<SporkWitch> JWST release stream: https://www.youtube.com/embed/21X5lGlDOfg?rel=0
<SporkWitch> just started showing pics!
<SporkWitch> just started showing pics!
<packbart> sooo, the Webb images look like images from a space telescope
<packbart> sooo, the Webb images look like images from a space telescope
<Althego> hehe
<Althego> hehe
<Althego> what did you expect?
<Althego> what did you expect?
<packbart> Aliens, of course
<packbart> Aliens, of course
<Althego> with time
<Althego> with time
<Mat2ch> "Sir, the aliens are too big, we need a smaller telescope to see them!"
<Mat2ch> "Sir, the aliens are too big, we need a smaller telescope to see them!"
<Althego> wouldnt you need a bigger one in that cas?
<Althego> wouldnt you need a bigger one in that cas?
<SporkWitch> gotta reverse the telescope
<SporkWitch> gotta reverse the telescope
<packbart> *beep* *beep* *beep*
<packbart> *beep* *beep* *beep*
<SporkWitch> i do kind of wish they'd do some more hubble/jwst comparisons so people can better appreciate just how huge this is. Sure the pictures look great, but without that comparison it's difficult to appreciate unless you look at stuff like this a lot
<SporkWitch> i do kind of wish they'd do some more hubble/jwst comparisons so people can better appreciate just how huge this is. Sure the pictures look great, but without that comparison it's difficult to appreciate unless you look at stuff like this a lot
<packbart> yeah, without the comparison it pretty looks much the same
<packbart> yeah, without the comparison it pretty looks much the same
<Althego> i think the point is not that it looks better. but possibly it took way less time to make. hubble deep feal took what, weeks?
<Althego> i think the point is not that it looks better. but possibly it took way less time to make. hubble deep feal took what, weeks?
<Althego> deep field
<Althego> deep field
<Althego> because very few visible fotons came to the instruments
<Althego> because very few visible fotons came to the instruments
<Althego> most of them in infra red
<Althego> most of them in infra red
<Althego> this an make them fast
<Althego> this an make them fast
<Althego> in fact i think the resolution is slightly worse than hubble, even though it is way bigger, because of the wavelenght
<Althego> in fact i think the resolution is slightly worse than hubble, even though it is way bigger, because of the wavelenght
<packbart> astronomers still take much longer to analyse the images. what good is a high capture rate? :)
<packbart> astronomers still take much longer to analyse the images. what good is a high capture rate? :)
<SporkWitch> that's a big part too, but whta they're saying right now is they ARE getting much more detail; part of that is being able to do it faster (less "blur"), but also is higher sensitivity, meaning things that would otherwise get washed out are now detectable
<SporkWitch> that's a big part too, but whta they're saying right now is they ARE getting much more detail; part of that is being able to do it faster (less "blur"), but also is higher sensitivity, meaning things that would otherwise get washed out are now detectable
<Mat2ch> https://twitter.com/jason4short/status/1546633395643432961 there are people doing comparisons already
<Mat2ch> https://twitter.com/jason4short/status/1546633395643432961 there are people doing comparisons already
<packbart> my computers are still combing through radio data from Arecibo, searching for undetected pulsars (for Einstein@Home)
<packbart> my computers are still combing through radio data from Arecibo, searching for undetected pulsars (for Einstein@Home)
<SporkWitch> packbart: less exposure time = fewer variables affecting image quality. every tiny movement adds up
<SporkWitch> packbart: less exposure time = fewer variables affecting image quality. every tiny movement adds up
<packbart> ah, right
<packbart> ah, right
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<SporkWitch> Althego: only thing i found so far about resolution is about "spatial resolution," which JWST wins
<SporkWitch> Althego: only thing i found so far about resolution is about "spatial resolution," which JWST wins
<Althego> even then it cant be much better
<Althego> even then it cant be much better
<Althego> purely optically
<Althego> purely optically
<Althego> but it can use bigger field of view with higher resolution instruments
<Althego> but it can use bigger field of view with higher resolution instruments
<SporkWitch> source is suspect (quara), but it looks like hubble has a resolution of 50 milliarc seconds, while NASA's site lists JWST as 0.1 arc-seconds
<SporkWitch> source is suspect (quara), but it looks like hubble has a resolution of 50 milliarc seconds, while NASA's site lists JWST as 0.1 arc-seconds
* raptop wants to say that for angular resolution those are roughly right though there's a wavelength dependence
* raptop wants to say that for angular resolution those are roughly right though there's a wavelength dependence
<sandbox> space microscope
<sandbox> space microscope
<Althego> one day we may need such an instrumetn
<Althego> one day we may need such an instrumetn
<Althego> maybe for some quantum research
<Althego> maybe for some quantum research
<sandbox> one day? I want it now
<sandbox> one day? I want it now
<Althego> also for onsite checking for zero g grown crystals and stuff
<Althego> also for onsite checking for zero g grown crystals and stuff
<Mat2ch> Interesting. Vega C launch tomorrow
<Mat2ch> Interesting. Vega C launch tomorrow
<Althego> there is a chinese launch in 50 minutes but no stream
<Althego> there is a chinese launch in 50 minutes but no stream
<Althego> there may be an electron launch too
<Althego> there may be an electron launch too
<Althego> but hey put it out no soonar than
<Althego> but hey put it out no soonar than
<Althego> sooner
<Althego> sooner
<Althego> i still dont see anything concrete on the arianspace twitter for vega c, aside fro ma days olf tweet which mentions roll-on13 july, whatever that means
<Althego> i still dont see anything concrete on the arianspace twitter for vega c, aside fro ma days olf tweet which mentions roll-on13 july, whatever that means
<Althego> two launches tomorrow and that is the one day this week when i go to the office
<Althego> two launches tomorrow and that is the one day this week when i go to the office
<Mat2ch> Just move it to Thursday :D
<Mat2ch> Just move it to Thursday :D
<Althego> hehe
<Althego> hehe
<Althego> or i just watch them anyway
<Althego> or i just watch them anyway
<Althego> one is in the morning
<Althego> one is in the morning
<Althego> i need to be careful no to forget the othre one after lunch
<Althego> i need to be careful no to forget the othre one after lunch
<Althego> launch after lunch
<Althego> launch after lunch
<Mat2ch> !mission
<Mat2ch> !mission
<LunchBot> Having lost all motor control during a battle with the Kraken, Jebediah is forced to use his telekinetic haircut to pilot the craft. You see what a geon looks like from the inside.
<LunchBot> Having lost all motor control during a battle with the Kraken, Jebediah is forced to use his telekinetic haircut to pilot the craft. You see what a geon looks like from the inside.
<Mat2ch> !mission
<Mat2ch> !mission
<LunchBot> You implement Wernher's plan to turn the entire astronaut complex into a rocket. The lysine contingency is implemented as the lysol contingency for budgetary reasons.
<LunchBot> You implement Wernher's plan to turn the entire astronaut complex into a rocket. The lysine contingency is implemented as the lysol contingency for budgetary reasons.
<Althego> telekinetic haircut lol
<Althego> telekinetic haircut lol
<Mat2ch> !mission
<Mat2ch> !mission
<LunchBot> You use drainage pipes after having run out of fuel lines. Yargnit tells you everything you're doing wrong.
<LunchBot> You use drainage pipes after having run out of fuel lines. Yargnit tells you everything you're doing wrong.
<Althego> kikkerikii
<Althego> kikkerikii
<Althego> beeeg badaboom
<Althego> beeeg badaboom
<Mat2ch> and every bright dot is a Galaxy...
<Mat2ch> and every bright dot is a Galaxy...
<Mat2ch> right?
<Mat2ch> right?
<Althego> i didnt check :)
<Althego> i didnt check :)
<Althego> but possibly only the really bright ones are stars in our galaxy
<Althego> but possibly only the really bright ones are stars in our galaxy
<Mat2ch> I remember times, when I heard my hdd swapping when looking at such huge pictures :D
<Mat2ch> I remember times, when I heard my hdd swapping when looking at such huge pictures :D
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<SporkWitch> for anyone that missed it live, here's just the 1 hour stream of the JWST image reveal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmMRMIE3MGw
<SporkWitch> for anyone that missed it live, here's just the 1 hour stream of the JWST image reveal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmMRMIE3MGw
<Althego> maybe the archive is better but the stream was barely working
<Althego> maybe the archive is better but the stream was barely working
<Althego> heh bird from 14. the worlkd really does not want me to go in
<Althego> heh bird from 14. the worlkd really does not want me to go in
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<packbart> I'll keep using the Hubble Deep Field as the background image behind the desktop cube. it's got nicer colors :)
<packbart> I'll keep using the Hubble Deep Field as the background image behind the desktop cube. it's got nicer colors :)
<packbart> ah, considering the scale, it was just like petrol motor misfiring ;)
<packbart> ah, considering the scale, it was just like petrol motor misfiring ;)
<Althego> the stellar motor is backfiring. almost new, he said
<Althego> the stellar motor is backfiring. almost new, he said
<packbart> "it's rather like a backpack-bomb than a pipe-bomb or a car-bomb" - uhh-huh. I wouldn't know :)
<packbart> "it's rather like a backpack-bomb than a pipe-bomb or a car-bomb" - uhh-huh. I wouldn't know :)
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<funkenstein> ;mission
<funkenstein> ;mission
<LunchBot> You create a space station in the shape of a giant green eyeball. You find out that all your base are belong to US.
<LunchBot> You create a space station in the shape of a giant green eyeball. You find out that all your base are belong to US.
* raptop blames an unamused octopus
* raptop blames an unamused octopus
<funkenstein> ;mission add You create a space station in the shape of a large pointing hand, making politicians very nervous.
<funkenstein> ;mission add You create a space station in the shape of a large pointing hand, making politicians very nervous.
<LunchBot> Added mission: You create a space station in the shape of a large pointing hand, making politicians very nervous.
<LunchBot> Added mission: You create a space station in the shape of a large pointing hand, making politicians very nervous.
<funkenstein> ;mission
<funkenstein> ;mission
<LunchBot> You construct a Tandem Mirror-style fusion engine. Your hype train exceeds 88 miles per hour. You arrive in version .13.3.
<LunchBot> You construct a Tandem Mirror-style fusion engine. Your hype train exceeds 88 miles per hour. You arrive in version .13.3.
<funkenstein> ;outcome add The planet is destroyed by an amused octopus
<funkenstein> ;outcome add The planet is destroyed by an amused octopus
<LunchBot> Added outcome: The planet is destroyed by an amused octopus
<LunchBot> Added outcome: The planet is destroyed by an amused octopus
<raptop> !mission unamused
<raptop> !mission unamused
<LunchBot> You launch an unamused octopus into orbit to spy on everyone.
<LunchBot> You launch an unamused octopus into orbit to spy on everyone.
<funkenstein> ;outcome add How could you do this, Koro-Sensei?!
<funkenstein> ;outcome add How could you do this, Koro-Sensei?!
<LunchBot> Added outcome: How could you do this, Koro-Sensei?!
<LunchBot> Added outcome: How could you do this, Koro-Sensei?!
<raptop> korone?
<raptop> korone?
<raptop> Anyway, there's a high rez PDF of the octopos out there: https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/nrol-39-mission-logo-78740/
<raptop> Anyway, there's a high rez PDF of the octopos out there: https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/nrol-39-mission-logo-78740/
<funkenstein> not sure I understood, they were appealing an octopus?
<funkenstein> not sure I understood, they were appealing an octopus?
<funkenstein> 殺せない先生
<funkenstein> 殺せない先生
<raptop> 先生を殺しないですよ
<raptop> 先生を殺しないですよ
<raptop> (...or something)
<raptop> (...or something)
<SporkWitch> i'm sorry, i don't speak weeb :P
<SporkWitch> i'm sorry, i don't speak weeb :P
<funkenstein> I fluently copy and paste weeb
<funkenstein> I fluently copy and paste weeb
<raptop> ah
<raptop> ah
<funkenstein> my partner is the speaker of the weeb
<funkenstein> my partner is the speaker of the weeb
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* raptop is vaguely tempted to take some actual JLPT tests
* raptop is vaguely tempted to take some actual JLPT tests
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<SporkWitch> so yeah, JWST is MUCH more sensitive