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<raptop> !mission add You design a quad-propellant engine.
<LunchBot> Added mission: You design a quad-propellant engine.
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<Mat2ch> packbart: I was loooong asleep then :)
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<FLHerne> .mission add Your new hyper-optimizing compiler determines that part of your code will encounter undefined behaviour in 14 years when a timer overflows, and thus can be disregarded entirely.
<LunchBot> Added mission: Your new hyper-optimizing compiler determines that part of your code will encounter undefined behaviour in 14 years when a timer overflows, and thus can be disregarded entirely.
<FLHerne> this sort of thing bugs me sometimes
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<Mat2ch> Unixtime overflow?
<Mat2ch> And it's something me fellow developers overlook too often. I put quiet a lot of thinking into counter variables. Coming from microcontrollers I know how to abuse overflowing integers for my purpose.
<FLHerne> Unintended overflows can be a pain, but I was complaining more about optimizing compilers saying "this is an infinite loop, therefore it's UB, therefore simply ignoring it and emitting no code at all is fine"
<FLHerne> instead of even a warning in some cases
<FLHerne> I know there are good reasons such things are hard to distinguish from reasonable optimizations, but as a user it's frustrating
<Mat2ch> that sounds like a bug to me.
<Mat2ch> The compiler shouldn't remove an infinite loop
<FLHerne> it's (somewhat controversially) allowed under some conditions
<Mat2ch> ok... two loops should never be merged together. If someone goes all the way writing two loops it has to have some reason...
<sandbox> someone is talking about hitting a deer with their car, and I feel I can't say what I want to say
<Mat2ch> free dogfood?
<sandbox> d'oh, a deer, a female deer
<sandbox> simpsons did it
<Mat2ch> Oh deer.
<packbart> at least in that case the driver has good chances of survival. hit a moose and it just flattens the roof
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<packbart> granted, a moose weighs about as much as a car
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<Mat2ch> packbart: what happens to a moose that gets hit by a 2t SUV?
<Althego> whatever it is, probably doesnt look great
<Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98ZK_kknP9U that's what it looks for a Volvo. (Test, no real moose harmed)
<Mat2ch> but SUVs have a much higher bonnet, so they hit differently
<FLHerne> .quote no elk
<LunchBot> Buy Volvo - there are no elk in Japan.
<packbart> yeah, but the test does show the problem. an elk is a ton of mass on high stilts, the bonnet with all its crash buffers goes right under it
<Mat2ch> we need to build taller or - hear me out - lower cars!
<FLHerne> straight under the elk?
<Mat2ch> A Ferrari could clear that moose!
<packbart> elks should be required by law to have effective side protection and underrun bars
<FLHerne> or cars with sort of big vertical blades on the front, to shear them into more easily deflectable sections
<Mat2ch> What about having elks require to look both ways before crossing the street? Or only crossing at dedicated crossings?
<packbart> they are famous for bad eye sight
<Mat2ch> So, glasses for moose?
<FLHerne> special glasses for elk
<FLHerne> jinx
<Mat2ch> :D
<packbart> if they want to cross roads, yes
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<Mat2ch> We could teach them to solve crossword puzzles, so they sit around more and don't cross streets so often
<packbart> or have a guide chicken. chickens know how to cross the road
<Mat2ch> .oO( why not do laser eye surgery from orbit with our special laser satellites? )
<FLHerne> .outcome The PR department ask if it can kill fewer fish next time.
<LunchBot> No outcome found matching "The PR department ask if it can kill fewer fish next time.".
<FLHerne> .outcome add The PR department ask if this can kill fewer fish next time.
<LunchBot> Added outcome: The PR department ask if this can kill fewer fish next time.
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<Mat2ch> what looks better? Rings far apart or rings close together?
<Mat2ch> (and is this slightly overkill for a station around Jool? I don't think so.)
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<packbart> I like second one better, with rings closer together.
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