ferram4 changed the topic of #RO to: Welcome to the discussion channel for the Realism Overhaul (meta)mod for KSP! Realism Overhaul Main Thread https://goo.gl/wH7Dzb ! RO Spreadsheet http://goo.gl/Oem3g0 ! Code of Conduct http://goo.gl/wOSv2M ! | Maximal & soundnfury's RP-1 Race Into Space Signup: http://bit.ly/2DEVm2i [15:01] <soundnfury> Straight Eight Stronk (and) RP-0/1 is basically "Space Agency Spreadsheet Simulator"
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<Starwaster> BE-4? *sigh* I *JUST* got it...
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<Bornholio> what did you get
<Bornholio> they should paint it blue?
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<Starwaster> F9 fairing half https://i.stack.imgur.com/h5dzI.jpg
<Starwaster> doesn't seem like it weighs much at all.... wtf?
<Bornholio> 2.5m of nothing
<Starwaster> it's displacing hardly any water at all...
<Starwaster> I saw weight of 1,900 kg given for it which is pretty light but looking at that photo I don't think it weighs even that much...
<Bornholio> for the whole thing?
<Bornholio> or half (eddy)
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<Starwaster> eh... good question and I do not remember the answer
<Starwaster> that is a VERY good fricken question
<Bornholio> okay sanity check on that what is the height and diamter of those fairings
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<Starwaster> think it's like 5m diameter...? 17m tall?
<Starwaster> ok 13.9m tall
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<Starwaster> 5.2m wide
<Bornholio> so then i'd estimate (fast math) that half height by 1m by 25cm but its a part circle so half again
<Bornholio> so my guess comes to 750kg
<Starwaster> wiki says 13 tall and gives 1900 for the whole thing with no citations
<Starwaster> are you figuring for both carbon fiber and aluminum under?
<Bornholio> no just displaced water
<Starwaster> displaced salt water
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<Starwaster> Wow, carbon fiber is a better insulator than I thought... (at least in epoxy and across the thickness)
<Starwaster> Having some good results with using utilization to emulate super chilled propellants (SpaceX style...)
<Bornholio> what % do you need?
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<Starwaster> for kerosene I gave it 1.04938272, methane = 1.12 and LOX = 1.09954434
<Starwaster> greater densities at lower temperatures are possible but there were reasons why it would be unlikely to go much lower than those values... I forget why
<Starwaster> gave one half at 950 kg for the early versions
<Starwaster> current version has unknown mass savings speculated at -100 kg which puts it within reach of your 750 kg estimate. (you didn't say if you factored in salt water as opposed to plain water)
<Bornholio> lol, good on my enginerding
<Starwaster> "Mr Steven is a waste of money, pack the fairing with an outboadr engine, a compass and an intern and let it sail home."
<Bornholio> lol
<Bornholio> convincec customers salt water isn't bad might be hard tho
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<Bornholio> how much does a kerbal in external seat weight :)
<Bornholio> okay how do i remove all range safety buttons. .grrr
<Mike`> :D
<Mike`> A confirmation dialog might be useful
<Starwaster> bornholio pretty sure they weigh the same as their EVA
<Starwaster> 0.09375
<Starwaster> or 93.75 kg
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