2017-06-10 02:09
TheKosmonaut changed the topic of #kspmodders to: Welcome to #kspcovfefe | <Majiir> egg is pretty much just a chickenfetus until you start talking about floating point | Upon being elected Operator from 1:11:03AM to 1:11:19AM, GlassYuri immortalized his term with these words: “Do I have to give a fucking speech now?"
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SilverFox >
that's pretty straight
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darklight >
Its not going too bad now
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darklight >
Before it put like a fucking metre kink in
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darklight >
But only plowing.
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TheKosmonaut >
darklight: People are mad at red5 on the forum now kek
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SilverFox >
pfffft why
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darklight >
red5 never struck me as a bad mod
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TheKosmonaut >
He isnt, people just getting butthurt because that’s what they do
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darklight >
And I don't blame banana man for enforcing the majiir rule against me
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SilverFox >
aw fuck now I have to look at the kws thread
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Majiir >
What's the Majiir rule?
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TheKosmonaut >
Yeah, what
*is* the Majiir rule?
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Majiir >
I feel like there are a few
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SilverFox >
Hail ModStats
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Majiir >
Oh, is this the retarded "no contacting external servers" rule?
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darklight >
"Warn users if the mod uses the network"
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darklight >
No data collection either I think?
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darklight >
Something like that :P
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SilverFox >
wait, we cant contact external servers? that's stupid
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darklight >
You can
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darklight >
Just read the plugin rules :P
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SilverFox >
Majiir, you've also eaten goraebap right?
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SilverFox >
t's fuckin fish crackers with seaweed in em
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SilverFox >
suped up goldfish
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Glass|phone >
I'm about to learn what an array is
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SilverFox >
AWWWW SHIIIIIIEEET
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SilverFox >
wait, hashmaps or arrays?
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SilverFox >
this java class or unity class?
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Glass|phone >
just fucking standard arrays
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Glass|phone >
java is tuesday morning and unity tuesday afternoon
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SilverFox >
nigga u drunk? it's monday
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Glass|phone >
not everyone lives in the past you dumbfuck
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SilverFox >
do I die in the future?
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darklight >
Everyone dies.
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* darklight
remembers when my sister said something about timezones and the lunar eclipse
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darklight >
I laughed :P
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Glass|phone >
SilverFox: yeah you do, the chinese take over the world and didn't particularily lile your opinion on their music
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SilverFox >
I die with my dignity
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SilverFox >
die a bravery than die a pussy bitch
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SilverFox >
their language can go suck a dick
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Glass|phone >
mfw my teacher has an array outta bounds exception
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Glass|phone >
the problem we're working on is calculating the sum and avg of 5 integers
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SilverFox >
nigga he wut
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SilverFox >
show code
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Glass|phone >
he did it on porpoise
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darklight >
It is handy to know what that is...
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Glass|phone >
literally array[0] + array[1]... array[n+1]
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darklight >
But I fear for the level of quality this game will have
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darklight >
That is hideous
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darklight >
Have you not done for loops?
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Glass|phone >
we did
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Glass|phone >
if he wanted to make a point he should have written an off by one for loip
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darklight >
inb4 he 1 indexes
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darklight >
Of by one would be the most common
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Glass|phone >
his code has the 0 index at the end of the + chain instead of before the 1
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Glass|phone >
also he's now explaining that you should not calculate the avg with ints
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SilverFox >
yeah cause rounding
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Glass|phone >
and then next will be that you have to floatcast one of the arguments or the / operator will still return int
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darklight >
When inputs are ints you can, so long as you don't do integer division
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SilverFox >
yeah you can ether / flt or cast to flt
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Glass|phone >
float = int/int still gives int, float = (float)int/int gives float
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darklight >
Cast the divisor to double :P
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darklight >
I usually specify blah/2d if I am doing something fixed
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Glass|phone >
so freecad doesn't seem to have a portable version
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darklight >
put on laptop
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darklight >
portable!
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Glass|phone >
I'm spending up to 9 hours in school, have to use that time for fucking something
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darklight >
Usually people fuck other humans
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SilverFox >
use the newly obtained skills tomake one
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Glass|phone >
that was rethorical 'fucking'
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Glass|phone >
s/was/was a/
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Qboid >
Glass|phone meant to say: that was a rethorical 'fucking'
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Glass|phone >
two dimensional arrays
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SilverFox >
aw shit jagged arrays
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darklight >
2d is different from jagged
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SilverFox >
how so?
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SilverFox >
is 3d the jagged one?
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darklight >
A 2x5 array isn't jagged
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Glass|phone >
jagged is array in array, 2d is if an areay actually has two dimensions?
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Glass|phone >
in c# it's the diff between [,] and [][]
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darklight >
A {{0, 1}, {2, 3, 4 , 5}} array is
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darklight >
Also are multidimension arrays common or do people just go [x+y*dimx]?
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Glass|phone >
embedded c programmers might do that
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Glass|phone >
but otherwise... whyyy would you
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SilverFox >
what's a legit usecase for a 3d array?
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darklight >
Silverfox, a video
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SilverFox >
what do you mean?
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darklight >
x,y,time
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SilverFox >
ah right
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Glass|phone >
x,y,time,r,g,b
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darklight >
Although if you're youtube, yuv
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darklight >
Kinda wish youtube supported rgb
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SilverFox >
I mean, since this is C#, why not have a pixel object and have a 2D array of those? in a dictionary with key time and value pixel array?
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SilverFox >
rather, make it a pixel struct
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darklight >
Why would it be a dictionary?
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darklight >
With an array its direct memory access there :P
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SilverFox >
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Majiir >
darklight, x+y*dimx type math is how multidimensional arrays work
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Majiir >
Jagged arrays are arrays of arrays, and are just Bad(tm)
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SilverFox >
oh shit, majiir isn't idle into away any anymore
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SilverFox >
now why are arrays of arrays bad?
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SilverFox >
performance, semantics?
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Majiir >
It's not a valuable abstraction, and you pay a performance cost by dereferencing twice
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SilverFox >
does this also apply to lists of lists?
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darklight >
Majiir, I figured, but it's a useable feature
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darklight >
Just gotta lug x and y instead of pos around though :P
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Majiir >
Yes, and a usable diet plan is one where you wake up in the morning, do a handstand on a scale, and shit until the number goes down
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Majiir >
It's something you can do
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SilverFox >
now, what is dimx?
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Majiir >
It doesn't mean you ever should
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darklight >
The x dimension
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darklight >
Bad naming
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darklight >
Some call it stride maybe?
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Majiir >
Stride is a good term for that
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SilverFox >
why are you multiplying y by the x dimension when you have x in the first slot?
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Majiir >
It's addition
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Majiir >
Fox be less retarded pls
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Majiir >
It's a way of mapping between 1-dimensional and multi-dimensional coordinates
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SilverFox >
hrmmmmmmmmmm
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Majiir >
You go along the X dimension until you hit the end, then you wrap around and increment Y by one
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Majiir >
except doing that procedurally is fucking stupid
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Majiir >
so we do it with math
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SilverFox >
gotta spin up the hamster wheel for this one
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darklight >
Look at a grid of numbers
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SilverFox >
that's x, y*dimx right and not x+y*dimx?
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darklight >
You'll see why it works
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darklight >
It's definitely +
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Majiir >
a[x, y] = b[x + y*dimx]
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SilverFox >
it's 2d array though right?
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Majiir >
Multidimensional arrays are abstractions
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Majiir >
They aren't "real"
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SilverFox >
aw fuck this im out
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Majiir >
There's no mechanism for you to allocate multidimensional memory
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darklight >
It's a 1d mapping
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Majiir >
This has very real performance implications when working with multidimensional arrays. They're a very "leaky" abstraction in that way.
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darklight >
Maybe look at x+y*dimx+z*dimy? (iirc)
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Majiir >
so much so that in practice, they're not all that useful IMO
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darklight >
I might have brain farted
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darklight >
But I am in a tractor
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darklight >
Oh, last term will be dimx*dimy
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Majiir >
darklight, x + y*dimx + z*dimx*dimy yeah
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Majiir >
More clearly: x + dimx * (y + dimy * (z))
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Glass|phone >
I don't have a facecancer account to watch
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SilverFox >
dont worry, you'll get it ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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darklight >
Neither do I but it let me play it
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darklight >
Also sf confirmed gay :P
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Glass|phone >
darklight: not on mobile
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SilverFox >
I've been e x p o s e d
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darklight >
You've been rrrrrroooaaasted
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SilverFox >
you're welcome everyone
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Glass|phone >
so far this school day has not required me to be awake
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SilverFox >
those days are simulateneously shit and great
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SilverFox >
Majiir, I think I just watched Elvis for the first time
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SilverFox >
all the members are unrecognizable to me
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Majiir >
One more so than the rest
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SilverFox >
that's a member? well then
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SilverFox >
~w Youkyung AoA
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SilverFox >
oh she's gone, she don't matter no more
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Majiir >
you shut your whore mouth
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SilverFox >
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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Majiir >
I don't think they ever announced her being gone officially?
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Majiir >
AOA Black just stopped doing stuff
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SilverFox >
DOESNT EVEN HAVE A WIKI PAGE
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Majiir >
She's a stealth member
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SilverFox >
~w AoA black
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SilverFox >
I think I had one of those
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SilverFox >
at least, I knew someone who did
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SilverFox >
Majiir, in AoA's wiki page go to their history and and read the 2012 paragraph, wtf are these names
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SilverFox >
"Hyejeong Linus"?
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SilverFox >
wait ew Jimin is the "leader" of the group
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Majiir >
linus dongdong
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Majiir >
minaring++
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SilverFox >
Jiminel sounds like it's from the 80's
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Majiir >
Hey look I think I'm on the AOA Wikipedia page
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SilverFox >
"chanmi titi"
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Majiir >
Oh nvm that's LA
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Glass|phone >
SilverFox: I had a different one, but some children's hospital waiting room had that exact one
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SilverFox >
wait, is youkyung in Good Luck?
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SilverFox >
what AoA songs has she been in?
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Majiir >
Moya and Elvis
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SilverFox >
so I can never tell apart three of the people here
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SilverFox >
middle left-left, middle-right, and middle-right-right
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SilverFox >
and probably the one on the right too
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Majiir >
precious, Seolhyun, dongdong, Yuna
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Majiir >
how braindead are you m8
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SilverFox >
futa.png
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SilverFox >
is dongdong the one with the stupidly yellowish face in comparison?
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Glass|phone >
SilverFox confirmed for reading disability
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SilverFox >
Majiir, by precious do you mean Mina?
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SilverFox >
okay great, not missing any important ones
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Glass|phone >
SilverFox: how many fucking times have I seen that already
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SilverFox >
at least
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Glass|phone >
like fucking 5
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SilverFox >
its a good meme
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SilverFox >
like, play your shitty vocaloid music and watch the gif match it
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GlsFrg|phone >
SilverFox: all chinese vocaloid has excellent videos, no need for dog gifs
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kmath >
YouTube - dog_meme.avi
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GlassUnity >
oh right, this is the class where I slightly misunderstood what the teacher wants
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GlassUnity >
so essentially we created a pickup that emits a small particle cloud when picked up
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GlassUnity >
so the first thing we did was creating a trigger that deletes the object when triggered by the player, then added particles
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GlassUnity >
but since deleting objects is handled by the Destroy() function, I kind of misunderstood this to be about destruction
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GlassUnity >
and thus made my object to explode into a cloud of fucking anime eyes
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GlassUnity >
right eyes to be precise
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G-Mobile >
Where is the misunderstanding?
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GlassUnity >
G-Mobile: a pick-up item with a subtle sparkle effect vs EYE EXPLOSION AAAGH
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G-Mobile >
Subtly was not a requisite you mentioned
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G-Mobile >
;wa 1 gram per pound
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G-Mobile: 1 g/lb (gram per pound): 1 g/lb (gram per pound), 0.002205, 2.205 parts per thousand
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When did thu derf00t cease to be a pedantic and reapititious but fundamentally sound kickstarter debunker to a fake news react channel
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YouTube - Glowspin - Soon (TM)
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G-Mobile I like his science stuff, but the whole brexit thing is kinda insufferable :P
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Also I find it odd he targetted sargon when his real beef should have been with vee and uzalu. I watch the gypsy, but not uzalu.
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YouTube - Hi Stranger (Original) - KIRSTEN LEPORE
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Greys, have you ever seen tit physics where they seem to be on a hinge joint?
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like, a really old hinge joint that can slide back and forth as well?
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icefire, did you disable kmath tells for my nick or does it just suck?
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icefire >
if its not working for you and only you I'd call that a feature
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SilverFox >
I havent tested it for others because kmath tells are shit
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icefire >
whats bad about them
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SilverFox >
I never get them
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SilverFox >
which is a key feature of the tell system
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is that they get sent
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icefire >
ohh its throwing an exception
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SilverFox >
why is it throwing exceptions
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icefire >
looks like ActiveRecord changed how to delete all records
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icefire >
the rails devs really like to do this...
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SilverFox >
I wrote my tell system myself, dont have to worry about other people's work interfering
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SilverFox >
kmath is written in ruby?
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kmath used to use flat files for everything then I got tired of maintaining them
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SilverFox >
I just use text files
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;kmath are you made out of rubys?
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kmath >
Tank2333: My sources say no
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Tank2333 >
Dont be shy kmath
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SilverFox >
;kmath ?
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kmath >
SilverFox: Yes definitely
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SilverFox >
why the fuck did I just get all these tells
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because I fix
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SilverFox >
congrats
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SilverFox >
;wa 3.8mi to km
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kmath >
SilverFox: convert 3.8 miles to kilometers: 6.12 km (kilometers)
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ewwwwww this hotel sucks
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gonna make me fucking walk 6k to the nearest station, my ass
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SilverFox >
;kmath ?
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kmath >
SilverFox: Most likely
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;kmath x = 10; ?
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SilverFox: Concentrate and ask again
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SilverFox >
;kmath x = 10; ?
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kmath >
SilverFox: Cannot predict now
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SilverFox >
;kmath x = 10; ?
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kmath >
SilverFox: It is certain
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SilverFox >
;kmath x < 11 ? no : yes;
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SilverFox: My sources say no
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thumbsup.jpg
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;kmath does silverfox have the smarts?
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kmath >
darklight: Ask again later
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SilverFox >
;kmath is darklight asking stupid questions?
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SilverFox: Yeah
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