01:29 <discord-> s​cimas. — Inertially fixed will turn into a tangent + binormal in reality over time.

06:41 <_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #2715: Fix tolerances for Clang - https://git.io/JUnsz

06:42 <discord-> k​onstantinua00. — what does "binormal" mean?

06:43 <discord-> k​onstantinua00. — what does "enabling Inertially Fixed" do?

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07:15 <discord-> S​tandecco. — binormal is a vector in the frenet frame; in more layman terms, it's what KSP erroneously calls normal vector

07:16 <_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #2715: Fix tolerances for Clang - https://git.io/JUnsz

07:17 <discord-> S​tandecco. — it's the vector perpendicular to the plane which (locally with principia, globally with keplerian orbits) your orbit resides on

08:38 <discord-> D​amien. — @konstantinua00 if you're making a burn while moving in an orbit, logically you have to rotate while burning to always be thrusting in the same direction relative to the orbit. This is why the maneuver node indicator moves on your navball. Principia assumes you have the attitude control to be able to rotate. If you don't (spin stabilised craft for example) then you need to tell principia that the b

08:40 <_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] Myuzu starred Principia - https://git.io/JUnWl

08:42 <discord-> D​amien. — Principia node plans model the time taken to do the burn so it's important for it to know this. In stock all burns are planned assuming the entire dv budget it expended instantly at the point of the node so it's less important

08:43 <discord-> D​amien. — Principia node plans model the time taken to do the burn so it's important for it to know this. In stock all burns are planned assuming the entire dv budget is expended instantly at the point of the node so it's less important (edited)

09:33 <_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #2715: Fix tolerances for Clang - https://git.io/JUnsz

09:33 <_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JUn46

09:33 <_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy 377cd61 - Fix tolerances for Clang.

09:34 <_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy 2505bf9 - Merge pull request #2715 from pleroy/Tolerances Fix tolerances for Clang

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11:07 <discord-> K​erbinator. — Yep, accuracy of Principia node is amazing lol.

11:07 <discord-> K​erbinator. — Stock manoeuvre are all modelled as "instant burn"

11:07 <discord-> K​erbinator. — Even if you make your burn time symmetric at node time, it will still be inaccurate with long burns

11:08 <discord-> K​erbinator. — Yep, accuracy of Principia node is amazing lol, thanks to the integrator which beautifully consider the time of burn execution.

11:08 <discord-> K​erbinator. — Stock manoeuvre are all modelled as "instant burn"

11:08 <discord-> K​erbinator. — Even if you make your burn time symmetric at node time, it will still be inaccurate with long burns (edited)

11:09 <discord-> K​erbinator. — ---

11:09 <discord-> K​erbinator. — IDK what will happen when you need to stage in a very large burn (For example, some sort of LEO departure)

13:35 <discord-> D​amien. — that's where principia falls down

13:35 <discord-> D​amien. — althoughh recent changes (that I haven't actually tested yet) should allow you to recalculate and adjust further correction burns in tthe plan after staging

13:36 <discord-> D​amien. — although recent changes (that I haven't actually tested yet) should allow you to recalculate and adjust further correction burns in tthe plan after staging (edited)

13:36 <discord-> D​amien. — although recent changes (that I haven't actually tested yet) should allow you to recalculate and adjust further correction burns in the plan after staging (edited)

21:01 <discord-> s​cimas. — Is principia supposed to produce an stderr.log in the root of KSP?

21:35 <discord-> e​gg. — It is, whether that is a good idea is another question

21:49 <discord-> s​cimas. — Okay, I hadn't noticed it before and didn't see it mentioned in wiki, so was wondering if some debug code snuck into the release.