egg changed the topic of #principia to: Logs: https://esper.irclog.whitequark.org/principia | <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly…
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⟨rnlahaye⟩ ⟪dchapman2146⟫ uments and then copied the unzipped […] ⮪ Could you post the log in question?
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How should I post the log?
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The log I have right now only has Starting and then quitting. Is that enough?
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⟨theeo⟩ does PVG work with principia?
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⟨Paculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ Yes, although orbital perturbations will have slight effects on your orbit over time
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You just need to do stationkeeping occasionally
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⟨Al2Me6⟩ > PVG
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⟨Al2Me6⟩ ⟪theeo⟫ does PVG work with principia? ⮪ Yes. Minor caveat that launch to plane/launch to LAN sometimes gets confused and doesn't liftoff (the solution being to stage manually when the countdown ends).
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⟨theeo⟩ alright, thank you
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one more thing, does TWP work with principia? and i usually use mechjeb to make my interplanetary transfer maneuver nodes so would i just have to play around with them manually with principia?
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⟨Al2Me6⟩ Yes and yes
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⟨Al2Me6⟩ You should use the TWP pinned in #ro-general
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⟨theeo⟩ yeah that’s what i’ve been using
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⟨theeo⟩ thank you
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⟨Kerbinator(no guarantee suggest)⟩ ⟪theeo⟫ alright, thank you one more thing, does […] ⮪ *mostly* work
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⟨theeo⟩ i guess i’ll just avoid extreme cases then
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⟨Kerbinator(no guarantee suggest)⟩ extreme cases refers to binaries, or near-equal mass threebody
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⟨Kerbinator(no guarantee suggest)⟩ For example, with type P and type S planets in binary system with stars only having a distance of 1AU, things may start to go chaotic so that TWP is completely unusable
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⟨Kerbinator(no guarantee suggest)⟩ * star
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⟨Al2Me6⟩ A two-body planner not working properly in non-Keplerian scenarios, how surprising.
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⟨rnlahaye⟩ ⟪dchapman2146⟫ The log I have right now only has […] ⮪ Create an issue on the Principia GitHub and attach it there
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⟨coffeequaffer⟩ the phobos-mars-orbit frame has me at 2207.7 km/s relative velocity...?
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⟨coffeequaffer⟩ mars-inertial is 5705 m/s and phobos-inertial is 5902; heliocentric is 23999 m/s
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⟨coffeequaffer⟩ the phobos-mars-orbit frame has me at 2207.7 _km_/s relative velocity...?
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⟨coffeequaffer⟩ the phobos-mars-orbit frame has me at 2207.7 *km*/s relative velocity...?
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⟨Sumguy⟩ ⟪rnlahaye⟫ Unlikely; dchapman2146 is running High […] ⮪ Same. I don't want to give up 32bit support.
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⟨coffeequaffer⟩ it went away when i was in mars space low
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⟨coffeequaffer⟩ (i.e. back to a sane value)
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⟨egg⟩ ⟪coffeequaffer⟫ the phobos-mars-orbit frame has me at […] ⮪ it is a rotating reference frame, and you are very far from the axis, that reference frame is moving very fast there with respect to MCI.
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⟨Serina⟩ Is there a rule in regards to what to set your refereance frame and your maneuver frame to?
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⟨von Kerman⟩ maneuver frame definitely should be the inertial frame of your current "SOI" body
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⟨von Kerman⟩ as for reference frame, whatever you want to look at atm, but there are recommendation on tooltips in the reference frame selector window
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⟨von Kerman⟩ * recommendations
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⟨von Kerman⟩ maneuver frame definitely should be the inertial frame of your current "SOI" body (edit: "current" at the time of the maneuver)
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⟨Serina⟩ So Earth maneuver frame, Moon Reference frame for instance
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⟨Serina⟩ sol manuver frame, mars reference frame for midcourse correction
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⟨von Kerman⟩ Yes, this works for fine tuning the maneuver. When just starting to make the flight plan, it might be better to use some "overview" reference frame that shows the entire system and not just the target.
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⟨von Kerman⟩ +(ECI or Earth-Moon-orbit for the moon mission, HCI or Sun-Earth-orbit for interplanetary)