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<queqiao-> ⟨Jade (she/they)⟩ is there a reason that principia would stop drawing the predicted flight path early? I'm planning a transfer to Venus and my periapsis keeps disappearing anytime it gets below 400 Mm
<queqiao-> ⟨Jade (she/they)⟩ And the predicted flight path just stops
<queqiao-> ⟨Jade (she/they)⟩ But the planned one continues well past that point (up to the plan length cap)
<queqiao-> ⟨lpg⟩ plan length is configured in planning window, prediction length is configured in the main principia window
<queqiao-> ⟨Jade (she/they)⟩ thank you!
<queqiao-> ⟨patrikcath⟩ Trying a new playthrough with principia and the stock system.
<queqiao-> The funnies begin.
<queqiao-> ⟨rnlahaye⟩ ⟪patrikcath⟫ Trying a new playthrough with principia […] ⮪ https://discord.com/channels/319857228905447436/480397772248580098/1083480870561792070
<queqiao-> ⟨rnlahaye⟩ That link doesn't seem to have worked properly;
<queqiao-> ⟨patrikcath⟩ ⟪rnlahaye⟫ That link doesn't seem to have worked […] ⮪ it has, it links to a message saying Parallax counts as modifying the star system, so presumably that prevents the changes to the Jool system from working. That's fine with me, I just think it's pretty funny for Val to get bullied out of it while literally everything else works fine
<queqiao-> ⟨Gratak-⟩ Is it possible that Principia changing trajectories may mess with ullage in some rare cases?
<queqiao-> I have a jupiter probe that is breaking just above the atmosphere of jupiter and I'm totally unable to ullage it while it is retrograde, while I get free ullage when it's prograde.
<queqiao-> ⟨Gratak-⟩ +(it stays in space 100% of the time)
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<queqiao-> ⟨test_account⟩ I've seen this effect even in LEO, ullage is easier on prograde orbits and more difficult on inclined orbits.
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account⟩ * in
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account⟩ * in
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account⟩ But I don't know if the effect exists without principia or not.
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<queqiao-> ⟨Starkid⟩ I can just use the latest Hurwitz release of principia for a 1.12.3 RO install right?
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<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ How will I know if my principa has installed correctly
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ ?
<queqiao-> ⟨Cirelion⟩ You should see a clear difference once you check the orbits
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ It’s still blue
<queqiao-> ⟨Cirelion⟩ There's also a item in the quickmenu for principia in flight
<queqiao-> ⟨Cirelion⟩ What is blue?
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ The orbital trajectory
<queqiao-> ⟨Cirelion⟩ Most likely it didn't work, how did you install the mod?
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Using Google drive
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ It’s the principia hurwitz for 1.12.5.zip
<queqiao-> ⟨Cirelion⟩ And how did you install Principia?
<queqiao-> ⟨Cirelion⟩ * How
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Off of GitHub
<queqiao-> ⟨Cirelion⟩ I'm not asking where you got it from, I'm asking how you installed it
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Oh it took me to Google drive I clicked download it came up with a warning I waited and clicked it and clicked on game data and dragged all the information for there to my ksp file
<queqiao-> ⟨Cirelion⟩ So you moved the Principia folder inside your GameData folder in your KSP install?
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Yes
<queqiao-> ⟨Cirelion⟩ That should just work, you don't see anything from Principia?
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ No
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Just basic rp1
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Ohhhhhh
<queqiao-> ⟨Cirelion⟩ Can you try on a fresh campaign, go in the flight menu and see if there is a icon in the sidebar
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ No
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ I know
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ I didn’t download the dependency
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Hold on brb
<queqiao-> ⟨Cirelion⟩ What dependency?
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Well you need other stuff to run principia right? You can’t just download principia and expect it to work
<queqiao-> ⟨Cirelion⟩ I repeat my question
<queqiao-> ⟨Al₂Me₆⟩ First off, #rules 3. Please slow down and explain yourself fully.
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Ok so I went to github to download principia I downloaded it
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Does it require anything else to work with it?
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account⟩ Just try, if it doesn't work then you need to install the dependencies
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Ah there you go I didn’t
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ What are they?
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Right…
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ What are the dependencies because I can’t find them and I know they’re special to my os but where does it say what I should have
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account⟩ now i wonder what os do you have 🤔
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Windows 11
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account⟩ there shouldn't be anything special about it?
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Why isn’t it working I did what I was supposed to
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account⟩ "not working" isn't very informative
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ It’s basically an empty file like there’s stuff in it but there’s no evidence of it being downloaded unless you look in the files
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ So no custom nav no recoloured trajectories
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ We are neither in your head nor on your computer, so if you want anything resembling help, you are going to have to provide _specifics_ about what you did.
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Ok
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Can I show pics?
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account⟩ pic of gamedata folder might help
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ There’s not I checked
<paculino> If you have no gamedata folder, KSP won't work at all
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account⟩ need a picture of the principia folder i suppose
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ ⟪test_account⟫ need a picture of the principia folder […] ⮪ Yeah I’m getting it dw
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account⟩ looks good, should work
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ But its not
<queqiao-> ⟨Marsh⟩ You should move your KSP install out of steam so it doesn’t mess with the install
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account⟩ well that's probably not related to principia not working...
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Ffs
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ I’m an idiot
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ I downloaded it did everything right
<queqiao-> ⟨Marsh⟩ ⟪test_account⟫ well that's probably not related to […] ⮪ No but it can cause other problems
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ But I installed it to the wrong ksp install
<queqiao-> ⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Sorry
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<_whitenotifier-1adf> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #3587: Similar motion - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/3587
<_whitenotifier-1adf> [Principia] Failure. Build finished. - http://casanova.westeurope.cloudapp.azure.com:8080/job/Principia/5827/
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