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⟨Jade (she/they)⟩ is there a reason that principia would stop drawing the predicted flight path early? I'm planning a transfer to Venus and my periapsis keeps disappearing anytime it gets below 400 Mm
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⟨Jade (she/they)⟩ And the predicted flight path just stops
<queqiao->
⟨Jade (she/they)⟩ But the planned one continues well past that point (up to the plan length cap)
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⟨lpg⟩ plan length is configured in planning window, prediction length is configured in the main principia window
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⟨patrikcath⟩ ⟪rnlahaye⟫ That link doesn't seem to have worked […] ⮪ it has, it links to a message saying Parallax counts as modifying the star system, so presumably that prevents the changes to the Jool system from working. That's fine with me, I just think it's pretty funny for Val to get bullied out of it while literally everything else works fine
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⟨Gratak-⟩ Is it possible that Principia changing trajectories may mess with ullage in some rare cases?
<queqiao->
I have a jupiter probe that is breaking just above the atmosphere of jupiter and I'm totally unable to ullage it while it is retrograde, while I get free ullage when it's prograde.
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⟨Gratak-⟩ +(it stays in space 100% of the time)
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⟨test_account⟩ I've seen this effect even in LEO, ullage is easier on prograde orbits and more difficult on inclined orbits.
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⟨test_account⟩ * in
<queqiao->
⟨test_account⟩ * in
<queqiao->
⟨test_account⟩ But I don't know if the effect exists without principia or not.
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⟨Starkid⟩ I can just use the latest Hurwitz release of principia for a 1.12.3 RO install right?
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⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ How will I know if my principa has installed correctly
<queqiao->
⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ ?
<queqiao->
⟨Cirelion⟩ You should see a clear difference once you check the orbits
<queqiao->
⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ It’s still blue
<queqiao->
⟨Cirelion⟩ There's also a item in the quickmenu for principia in flight
<queqiao->
⟨Cirelion⟩ What is blue?
<queqiao->
⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ The orbital trajectory
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⟨Cirelion⟩ Most likely it didn't work, how did you install the mod?
<queqiao->
⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Using Google drive
<queqiao->
⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ It’s the principia hurwitz for 1.12.5.zip
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⟨Cirelion⟩ And how did you install Principia?
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⟨Cirelion⟩ * How
<queqiao->
⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Off of GitHub
<queqiao->
⟨Cirelion⟩ I'm not asking where you got it from, I'm asking how you installed it
<queqiao->
⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Oh it took me to Google drive I clicked download it came up with a warning I waited and clicked it and clicked on game data and dragged all the information for there to my ksp file
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⟨Cirelion⟩ So you moved the Principia folder inside your GameData folder in your KSP install?
<queqiao->
⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Yes
<queqiao->
⟨Cirelion⟩ That should just work, you don't see anything from Principia?
<queqiao->
⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ No
<queqiao->
⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Just basic rp1
<queqiao->
⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Ohhhhhh
<queqiao->
⟨Cirelion⟩ Can you try on a fresh campaign, go in the flight menu and see if there is a icon in the sidebar
<queqiao->
⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ No
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⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ I know
<queqiao->
⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ I didn’t download the dependency
<queqiao->
⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Hold on brb
<queqiao->
⟨Cirelion⟩ What dependency?
<queqiao->
⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Well you need other stuff to run principia right? You can’t just download principia and expect it to work
<queqiao->
⟨Cirelion⟩ I repeat my question
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⟨Al₂Me₆⟩ First off, #rules 3. Please slow down and explain yourself fully.
<queqiao->
⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ What are the dependencies because I can’t find them and I know they’re special to my os but where does it say what I should have
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⟨test_account⟩ now i wonder what os do you have 🤔
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⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Windows 11
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⟨test_account⟩ there shouldn't be anything special about it?
<queqiao->
⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Why isn’t it working I did what I was supposed to
<queqiao->
⟨test_account⟩ "not working" isn't very informative
<queqiao->
⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ It’s basically an empty file like there’s stuff in it but there’s no evidence of it being downloaded unless you look in the files
<queqiao->
⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ So no custom nav no recoloured trajectories
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⟨egg⟩ We are neither in your head nor on your computer, so if you want anything resembling help, you are going to have to provide _specifics_ about what you did.
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⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Ok
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⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ Can I show pics?
<queqiao->
⟨test_account⟩ pic of gamedata folder might help
<queqiao->
⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ There’s not I checked
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If you have no gamedata folder, KSP won't work at all
<queqiao->
⟨test_account⟩ need a picture of the principia folder i suppose
<queqiao->
⟨indigo_aerospace⟩ ⟪test_account⟫ need a picture of the principia folder […] ⮪ Yeah I’m getting it dw