11:18 <queqiao-> ⟨delta___v⟩ https://matrix.mockingbirdnest.com/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.mockingbirdnest.com/hkESTPuFACxjLzdmTwLVSlMV/image.png

11:18 <queqiao-> ⟨delta___v⟩ why can't it detect the engine

11:18 <queqiao-> ⟨delta___v⟩ why can't it detect the engine?

11:18 <queqiao-> ⟨delta___v⟩ even after staging and activating

11:19 <queqiao-> ⟨delta___v⟩ +it (at 0 throttle)

11:20 <queqiao-> ⟨test_account9540⟩ which engine is that 🤔

11:20 <queqiao-> ⟨delta___v⟩ Orm

11:21 <queqiao-> ⟨delta___v⟩ it was working before idk why its not anymore

11:21 <queqiao-> ⟨test_account9540⟩ Just an engine, nothing special about it 😕

11:22 <queqiao-> ⟨delta___v⟩ what does that message mean

11:22 <queqiao-> ⟨delta___v⟩ no active engines

11:22 <queqiao-> ⟨test_account9540⟩ principia can't find any active engines in the current stage

11:22 <queqiao-> ⟨delta___v⟩ the burn time is calculated by the rcs?

11:23 <queqiao-> ⟨delta___v⟩ * based on

11:23 <queqiao-> ⟨test_account9540⟩ can it be that orm has spent all ignitions somehow?

11:24 <queqiao-> ⟨test_account9540⟩ (not sure what happens in this case, but no other ideas atm)

11:24 <queqiao-> ⟨delta___v⟩ it still has 2 ignitions remaining

11:25 <queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ Well, is it active?

11:26 <queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ That is, if you push the throttle, does it ignite and burn with no other user inputs?

11:26 <queqiao-> ⟨delta___v⟩ yes

11:27 <queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ Is it mounted backward with respect to the controlling part?

11:28 <queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ (can you show us the spacecraft and the PAW of the engine maybe?)

11:31 <queqiao-> ⟨delta___v⟩ https://matrix.mockingbirdnest.com/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.mockingbirdnest.com/isICfvjnfHiBHVsvqROERHZt/image.png

11:39 <queqiao-> ⟨delta___v⟩ nvm I had to click the "active engines" button

11:53 <queqiao-> ⟨delta___v⟩ https://matrix.mockingbirdnest.com/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.mockingbirdnest.com/ZFtDPHCzqbKrCtLdYCVjjsMR/image.png

11:53 <queqiao-> ⟨delta___v⟩ how do I make kOS detect this maneuver? it says no maneuver nodes present

11:58 <queqiao-> ⟨test_account9540⟩ select "Show on navball"

16:43 <_whitenotifier-bad2> [Principia] ballisticfox opened issue #4140: Possible Error in Earth's spherical harmonic gravity model. - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/4140

17:13 <queqiao-> ⟨nibrasakhi⟩ is there any way to add bodies without making principia mad and without starting a new save? :(

19:03 <_whitenotifier-bad2> [Principia] eggrobin commented on issue #4140: Possible Error in Earth's spherical harmonic gravity model. - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/4140#issuecomment-2506659157

19:12 <_whitenotifier-bad2> [Principia] ballisticfox closed issue #4140: On the lack of 𝐶₂₁ 𝑆₂₁ in the geopotential, and on the maximal degree of gravity models - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/4140

19:12 <_whitenotifier-bad2> [Principia] ballisticfox commented on issue #4140: On the lack of 𝐶₂₁ 𝑆₂₁ in the geopotential, and on the maximal degree of gravity models - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/4140#issuecomment-2506667193

20:46 <queqiao-> ⟨ezsnack⟩ how come even with a minimum dv transfer the time to get to the moon is less in principia? i guess because the moon is always acting on my craft? also does LTP know about this when setting the travel time?

20:47 <queqiao-> ⟨ezsnack⟩ * moon's gravity

21:02 <queqiao-> ⟨nazfib⟩ Yes, I believe it is because the Moon accelerates you towards itself from much further out.

21:02 <queqiao-> It does not make a difference for LTP. What matters is the total transfer time from launch until you arrive at the Moon; how you get there in that time does not affect the required launch direction.

22:53 <queqiao-> ⟨butcher6994⟩ LTP assumes the moon travels along its Keplerian orbit, this approximation is close enough in Principia as long as you don't take too long.

22:54 <queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ What if a cat nudges the moon?

22:54 <queqiao-> ⟨butcher6994⟩ Is it a frictionless spherical cat?

23:01 <raptop> Unsure, but the cat is definitely in a vacuum

23:03 <queqiao-> ⟨butcher6994⟩ Hard vacuum cat is watching your rockets