07:57 <Avera9eJoe> Testing 123

07:57 <Avera9eJoe> I'm not sure if anyone is up, but I'm looking for instructions on how to modify CKAN settings for a mod that I checked "add to CKAN" through SpaceDock

07:58 <AllisTauri[m]> 321

07:58 <Avera9eJoe> Howdy howdy

07:59 <Avera9eJoe> Someone has posted on my forum thread that Spectra doesn't work when they installed it via CKAN, and I added it to CKAN through SpaceDock. I'm curious how to edit the settings?

08:00 <Avera9eJoe> I never use CKAN since I love SpaceDock, and so this post is throwing me out of the ballpark

08:00 <Avera9eJoe> All I know is that when I check the "Add to CKAN" button when going through SpaceDock, my mod magically appears in the CKAN Gui but I don't know how to modify the settings once its in CKAN :P

08:01 <AllisTauri[m]> Ah, I see.

08:01 <AllisTauri[m]> From SpaceDock you can't do this, as the only thing SD does is notifies CKAN that there's a new mod to include in their index.

08:01 <AllisTauri[m]> What you have to do is this:

08:02 <AllisTauri[m]> Fork netkan repo:

08:02 <AllisTauri[m]> https://github.com/KSP-CKAN/NetKAN

08:03 <AllisTauri[m]> Find the metadata file automatically generated for your mod, edit it and make a PR explaining the change.

08:04 <Avera9eJoe> fuuuuuu

08:04 <Avera9eJoe> :P

08:04 <AllisTauri[m]> There's a complete specification of the format:

08:04 <AllisTauri[m]> https://github.com/KSP-CKAN/CKAN/blob/master/Spec.md

08:04 <Avera9eJoe> Thanks for the info, I'm glad to know how it works now

08:05 <Avera9eJoe> In all honesty I may just ask they take it down

08:05 <Avera9eJoe> I never use CKAN, since I know how unreliable a lot of those links can be

08:05 <AllisTauri[m]> And the guide:

08:05 <AllisTauri[m]> https://github.com/KSP-CKAN/CKAN/wiki/Adding-a-mod-to-the-CKAN

08:05 <Avera9eJoe> Many thanks

08:05 <Avera9eJoe> Do you use CKAN yourself?

08:06 <AllisTauri[m]> I do, and I honestly think it's a great tool

08:07 <AllisTauri[m]> When you have a lot of mods that depends on each other it's too easy to corrupt your installation with manual updates.

08:08 <Avera9eJoe> Gotcha

08:08 <Avera9eJoe> Quick question for you-

08:08 <Avera9eJoe> Is there a chance you could load up CKAN from your PC and search something really quick for me?

08:08 <Avera9eJoe> My CKAN GUI is showing something different from the screenshots the user posted so I want to check and see if its something on my end

08:08 <AllisTauri[m]> Also keep in mind that while you yourself may not use it, many of your users do, so removing your mod from there will not them

08:09 <Avera9eJoe> Yeah

08:09 <AllisTauri[m]> <AllisTauri[m] "Also keep in mind that while you"> *will hit them

08:09 <Avera9eJoe> CKAN shows 22k downloads for Spectra which is incredible to me

08:09 <Avera9eJoe> That said, I can't even download it on my PC for some reason

08:10 <Avera9eJoe> My game version is 1.7.3.2594, and Spectra is updated to 1.7.3 and it shows that on CKAN, but I cannot download it

08:10 <Avera9eJoe> I wanted to ask you if you could search "Spectra" and see if it has a check mark next to it for you

08:10 <Avera9eJoe> Sorry that this is unrelated to SpaceDock

08:11 <AllisTauri[m]> The netkan files are pretty easy to maintain, actually; and may hold them in your own repo, keeping only a link in the CKAN indeed

08:12 <AllisTauri[m]> Check the dependencies tab: may be it requires some other mod that is not yet upgraded for 1.7.3

08:13 <Avera9eJoe> Ahhh

08:13 <AllisTauri[m]> *oh, it's a pain to write on the phone; so many misspellings!

08:13 <Avera9eJoe> xD no worries

08:13 <Avera9eJoe> you've been an incredible help

08:15 <AllisTauri[m]> Glad to be; and don't ditch CKAN just yet, before you know it. Many player use nothing but CKAN to get mods

08:18 <Avera9eJoe> yeaouch...

08:18 <Avera9eJoe> I don't think my CKAN download even works

08:18 <Avera9eJoe> if its using the files that I updloaded straight to SpaceDock there's no way it could parse my manual installation steps into the game

08:18 <Avera9eJoe> I'm installing right now though to see

08:20 <Avera9eJoe> My download has three folders in it: Dependencies, Modfiles, and Extras

08:20 <Avera9eJoe> If its literally throwing the contents of the zip into GameData its not gonna work

08:21 <Avera9eJoe> Hold on a sec, holy shit...

08:21 <Avera9eJoe> uh, I don't know how but its installing it correctly

08:22 <Avera9eJoe> Booting up

08:25 <Avera9eJoe> Wow...

08:25 <Avera9eJoe> It looks like I don't need to change a thing.

08:26 <Avera9eJoe> It looks like the settings in CKAN are all correct

08:31 <Avera9eJoe> The problem lies in its dependencies

08:44 <Avera9eJoe> Thank you, it looks like I have this all sorted out :)

08:46 <AllisTauri[m]> Great)

14:23 <Webchat862> yo i got a question

14:25 <Webchat862> can i use 1.7 + mods with v1.7.3

14:26 <AllisTauri[m]> Only mod developers can tell you that. Each mod is unique.

14:28 <DasSkelett[m]> In around 95% of cases yes. The forum threads of the mods should tell you for sure.

23:32 <DasSkelett[m]> Oups.... I accidentally upgraded some packages via apt on alpha, didn't realise I was still sshed on it. Got most of them undone, some can't, but from what I can judge from the version numbers, those were only small bug fix updates. alpha.spacedock.info still works 🎉

23:32 <DasSkelett[m]> Got a list of all the upgrades, which packages I could restore the previous version for, and for which I couldn't, if you wanna check.

23:35 <HebaruSan[m]> Probably fine, I'm not aware of specific version requirements. Most of those were installed with simple "sudo apt-get install" commands without versions.

23:41 <DasSkelett[m]> Yeah looks like only the patch numbers were incremented for the remaining packages (if they follow a somewhat semver-like system). Those are basically some mesa libraries, a bit of systemd and libssl+openssl.

23:42 <HebaruSan[m]> I assume we're set up for automatic security updates already?

23:44 <DasSkelett[m]> No idea