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<BadRocketsCo>
Oh crap...
<BadRocketsCo>
My computers graphics processor spawns the bluescreen
<BadRocketsCo>
Or well, laptops actualy...
<BadRocketsCo>
Which may mean that I can't even replace it
<BadRocketsCo>
Fuck
<Bornholio>
let out your anger, let it strengthen you.
<Bornholio>
bummer dude
<BadRocketsCo>
Heh
<BadRocketsCo>
But yeah, as soon as a game is started, the bluescreen appears
<BadRocketsCo>
But as soon as anything graphics-heavy is done
<Bornholio>
do you get artifactws before that?
<Bornholio>
trianlges, lines or other glitches
<BadRocketsCo>
Black spots
<BadRocketsCo>
And some other strange glitches, yeah
<Bornholio>
patterned?
<Bornholio>
either way, small chance its PSU not providing full power, could be heat (give it the ol' cleanout. or just a straight up failing card
<BadRocketsCo>
My card has had trouble before, actualy. Games only worked on integrated graphics
<BadRocketsCo>
So, could well be.
<BadRocketsCo>
And I didn't notice any patterns
<Bornholio>
common one for laptops is thermal grease on a shared heatpipe is seperating. can you check temps on it?
<BadRocketsCo>
On it
<BadRocketsCo>
Just noticed something
<BadRocketsCo>
My fan is barely doing anything
<BadRocketsCo>
It's slightly blowing out quite hot air
<Bornholio>
laptop or desktop?
<BadRocketsCo>
Huh, temps aren't that high. 50C
<BadRocketsCo>
Laptop
<Bornholio>
gotta make it hard .sigh
<Bornholio>
good things to start with is to vacuum out the fan path (make sure you stop the fan mechanically with a small object like a q-tip) and vacuum out from both directions. or canned air if you have to make a mess :P
<Bornholio>
hopefully you haven't blown a power cap or transistor
<BadRocketsCo>
Huh. Ran the Dell diagnostic tool thing and nothing seems off.
<BadRocketsCo>
But yet games crash the GPU
<BadRocketsCo>
The fan works too
<BadRocketsCo>
Hmn
<Bornholio>
dell tools suck donkey $^$@#
<Bornholio>
use the nvidia or amd tool for the card
<BadRocketsCo>
Aight
<Bornholio>
could also try speccy but its not always accurate
<BadRocketsCo>
The last time I handed out my laptop to a tech with the graphics card trouble he said that no faults were found...
<BadRocketsCo>
Which is strange.
<BadRocketsCo>
They told me to check the drivers but all my gpu drivers are up to date
<Bornholio>
imagine so. to long working with techs, they tend to run a stock tool and go no further unless pressed to
<Bornholio>
what game crashes it blue screen
<BadRocketsCo>
Pretty much every one, it seems. Even Plague Inc.
<BadRocketsCo>
*sigh*
<BadRocketsCo>
JUST as I had a manned Mars mission underway
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<BadRocketsCo2>
Heh
<BadRocketsCo2>
My irc app crashed on my phone
<Bornholio>
bad karma man, gotta stop kicking puppies
<soundnfury>
BadRocketsCo2: oh hey there
<soundnfury>
that sounds sucky
<BadRocketsCo2>
Yup...
<soundnfury>
you'll have to play NetHack instead now ;)
<BadRocketsCo2>
Heh
<BadRocketsCo2>
I wonder if the GPU on my laptop can be replaced
<soundnfury>
laptops are tricky buggers
<soundnfury>
I've pretty much sworn off them now
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<BadRocketsCo>
So, I started to think how the failure came around in the first place
<BadRocketsCo>
And it is even stranger
<BadRocketsCo>
I was at work and had KSP running
<BadRocketsCo>
Helped some customers and when I came back i saw that windows had restarted
<BadRocketsCo>
Before that KSP ran just fine
<BadRocketsCo>
And everything else in general, of course
<soundnfury>
I see. I don't know too much about what windows is like these days but is there a way you can get at the kernel logs?
<soundnfury>
like, there might have been the equivalent of a panic recorded when it restarted
<BadRocketsCo>
No idea...
<Bornholio>
there is if it blue screened
<soundnfury>
sadly it's a lot harder to get useful information out of a BSOD than it is from a linux panic
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<Bornholio>
brc, if its a dell replacing the graphics card varies by model how hard it is
<Bornholio>
some its not possible short of a mainboard change
<Bornholio>
others its pretty easy once the case is open
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<soundnfury>
BadRocketsCo: I'll leave it to Bornholio to help you, since it seems he knows more about Windows than I do (and I'm guessing you're not willing to treat this as a good moment to install Debian ;)
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<Guest7704>
Uh...I am an idiot
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<BadRocketsCo>
I managed to delete the drivers without the backup...
<BadRocketsCo>
Welp
<BadRocketsCo>
Looks like a techie will have it from here
<BadRocketsCo>
BECAUSE I AM DUMB and should not be let near computers
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<soundnfury>
Bornholio: all these nuclear engines you added to RO... are they worth using? What kinds of uses do you envisage them being good for?
<soundnfury>
(specifically, are they ever sensible to use for anything other than Big Manned Missions in the AAP vein?)