03:16 <github> [RealismOverhaul] Ash19256 opened pull request #1918: Hg 3 speculative upgrades (master...HG-3-Speculative-Upgrades) https://git.io/fNy6T

03:21 <github> [RP-0] Ash19256 opened pull request #890: Add HG-3 Configs to Tree (master...master) https://git.io/fNy6O

20:14 <BadRocketsCo> o/

20:28 <Rokker> soundnfury: all of them

21:37 <soundnfury> Rokker: go and boil your head

22:21 <soundnfury> __awang__: are you a special method on a Python object?

22:22 <soundnfury> Rokker: ok, examples. What kind of messed up is the dH Vampire?

22:38 <Rokker> soundnfury: top speed, that low ground facing engine

22:38 <__awang__> soundnfury: Nah, I'm a reserved C/C++ implementation name

22:47 <Rokker> soundnfury: ok service ceiling

22:54 <soundnfury> Rokker: It's first-generation, with a centrifugal engine. I think you're expecting too much of it

22:59 <Rokker> soundnfury: so was the P-80/F-80 and it was 52 mph faster

22:59 <Rokker> and doesnt tear up tunways

22:59 <Rokker> runways

23:00 <soundnfury> you're building your runways wrong :P

23:00 <soundnfury> and the P-80 wasn't nearly as manœuvrable

23:00 <soundnfury> which for a fighter kinda matters :P

23:01 <soundnfury> (speed is not everything)

23:07 <dxdy> anyone any tip on what might be causing slowdown on reentry not to work? I have deadly reentry, RO and principia, and whenever I reenter the heatshield glows, the crafts orientation gets affected by drag, but it simply does not slow down. We're talking 0 change in velocity right until the craft explodes of overheating (because it's now at 20km altitude on earth with 10k m/s speed)

23:07 <dxdy> is there maybe some setting in the cheat menu that might accidentially have been triggered / is this an issue that anyone else has? I have never had this problem until now

23:08 <Bornholio> there is a install problem, that i cannot remember the fix

23:08 <dxdy> mh do you recall where you heard / read about it?

23:09 <Bornholio> been there and fixed it, let me jog my memory tho, hopefully some one else also

23:11 <soundnfury> augh I also recall others having this problem before but not what the fix was

23:11 <soundnfury> nothing in the console? no exceptinos?

23:12 <Bornholio> real heat & DRE installed?

23:12 <soundnfury> tried asking in #principia in case it's something to do with them?

23:12 <soundnfury> (you-are-now-entering-the-ferram-sector)

23:12 <dxdy> console does not show any exceptions or anything else that is pertinent

23:13 <dxdy> I tried reinstalling Deadly Reentry that did not help

23:13 <dxdy> RealHeat is installed, yes

23:13 <dxdy> I thought about asking in the principia channel but I can't imagine what it would have to do with principia

23:14 <egg> I don't know, but it sure is pinging me a lot

23:14 <Bornholio> kopernicus mangled is all i can dredge up from memory banks

23:15 <Bornholio> question is do you have a zero thickness section on the craft

23:15 <Bornholio> that can cause zero net drag

23:15 <Bornholio> object floating over a coupler is the common one

23:15 <egg> ping!

23:16 <Bornholio> :)

23:16 <dxdy> that's an interesting point. I do not think so, the booster may have had a procedural avionics that was very thin but nonzero

23:16 <dxdy> how would I go about identifying such a section?

23:16 <Bornholio> you can see through a gap

23:17 <Bornholio> far graphs

23:18 <dxdy> I don't see any gaps to speak of. The craft is basically a big heatshield, an apollo command module, and a bit of stuff on top of that with a docking port at the end

23:18 <dxdy> how do I access far graphs?

23:21 <Bornholio> toolbar button, don't use it often enough for advice

23:21 <dxdy> I know about the button but that doesn't give me graphs does it? I have two menus both are either toggles or a table of numbers

23:22 <dxdy> that sounded far more aggressive than it should, there ought to be a comma before does it^^ chat is horrible for tone, sorry

23:23 <Bornholio> lol

23:23 <dxdy> as far as I can tell from the numbers there, drag is nonzero, as is lift and side force

23:34 <dxdy> mh no unfortunately can't be that

23:35 <dxdy> I started a new sandbox save, put together a new ship nothing but avionics, rcs, tank, engine, decoupler, heatshield and it still doesn't slow down in any way

23:36 <dxdy> the problem is I can't even identify where it goes wrong. Color and temperature seem correct, far shows drag, the debug overlay for drag shows arrows pointing in the right direction, the ablator on the heatshield gets consumed

23:37 <dxdy> it's only that the veolocity is not changed at all

23:42 <dxdy> I mean it's a two ton ship with 1000 kN of drag, it ought to slow down.

23:42 <dxdy> I've uploaded an image of the far stuff here: https://imgur.com/a/t6ECjOP does that seem right?

23:54 <dxdy> ah. So I reinstalled FAR (possibly to another version, not sure). that seems to have fixed it

23:56 <soundnfury> oviparous cats, now?

23:56 <soundnfury> !wpn egg

23:56 <soundnfury> but... but... nitrogen's an inert!

23:56 <egg> stop pinging at 2 in the morning >_>

23:57 <soundnfury> You're not <egg|zzz|egg>, so where's the problem?

23:57 <egg> good point

23:59 <soundnfury> so Bornholio, how's stuff?