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* UmbralRaptor really should stop combining too much coffee with too little food.
* UmbralRaptor jitters.
<bofh> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6u7_oPWYAEw00t.jpg huh cool floating-point bug there
<bofh> heh, I wish caffeine affected me more than it does
<UmbralRaptor> Meep
* UmbralRaptor is pretty much entirely OSX (work computer) and Linux (home is a C2D, with an XP partition I try to avoid)
<bofh> Linux home computer, linux cluster, Windows 7 workstation that I mostly just use as a dumb terminal, freebsd VPS.
<bofh> but no, that didn't happen to me, just some random on twitter
* UmbralRaptor would expect that to be the sort of silliness that would happen more often to a sysadmin.
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<Majiir> egg: it's here
<Majiir> @let egg = egg
<Soozee> Defined.
<Majiir> @let zzz egg = True
<Soozee> Defined.
<Majiir> :t zzz
<Soozee> t -> Bool
<Majiir> @let zzz _ = False
<Soozee> .L.hs:91:1: Warning:
<Soozee> Pattern match(es) are overlapped
<Soozee> In an equation for ‘zzz’: zzz _ = ...
<UmbralRaptor> let zzz egg = True/sqrt(2) + False/sqrt(2)
<Majiir> That seems unlikely, but we won't argue with the lady
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<SnoopJeDi> e_14159, re: NixOS, the tl;dr is a Linux distro built around a declarative package manager. https://nixos.org/
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<GreeningGalaxy> SnoopJeDi: ooh, are you nixosing?
<GreeningGalaxy> I've looked at it numerous times but shied away
<SnoopJeDi> naw
<SnoopJeDi> if you do ever try it, do tell
<GreeningGalaxy> I think that must be everyone's take on NixOS. "No way, you try it first."
<UmbralRaptor> Chicken, egg?
<UmbralRaptor> ...we can have egg|zzz|egg try it first!
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<egg|zzz|egg> o/ Soozee
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor whitequark Iskierka
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor whitequark Iskierka a supercritical number
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn -add:adj ground
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg: Adjective added!
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn -add:wpn squirrel
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg: Weapon added!
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<Iskierka> !wpn egg|phone|egg
* Qboid gives egg|phone|egg a death sulfur polyhedron
<Iskierka> punk band? I'm thinking punk band
<soundnfury> !wpn egg|zzz|egg
* Qboid gives egg|zzz|egg a moral polygon
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn Norgg
* Qboid gives Norgg a Schwarzschild octagon
<Norgg> !wpn -add:wpn Norgg
<Qboid> Norgg: Weapon added!
<Norgg> !wpn -add:adj eggy
<Qboid> Norgg: Adjective already added!
<Norgg> Of course.
<soundnfury> !wpn -add:adj partially-ordered
<Qboid> soundnfury: Adjective added!
<soundnfury> !wpn -add:wpn supremum
<Qboid> soundnfury: Weapon added!
<soundnfury> !wpn -add:wpn infimum
<Qboid> soundnfury: Weapon added!
<soundnfury> !wpn -add:adj squeeze
<Qboid> soundnfury: Adjective added!
<soundnfury> !wpn
* Qboid gives soundnfury a combustion ███████
<soundnfury> !wpn -add:adj solenoidal
<Qboid> soundnfury: Adjective added!
<soundnfury> !wpn -add:adj irrotational
<Qboid> soundnfury: Adjective already added!
<soundnfury> !wpn -add:adj Helmholtz
<Qboid> soundnfury: Adjective added!
<soundnfury> !wpn
* Qboid gives soundnfury a valid demon
<Iskierka> if (demon.name != "Jesus"):
<soundnfury> Iskierka: clearly the demon is Maxwell's
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<Thomas> !wpn
* Qboid gives Thomas a clopen blizzard
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn Thomas
* Qboid gives Thomas a cathode ray tetrahedron
<bofh> soundnfury: I'm partial to Laplace's, personally
<SnoopJeDi> our department once had a softball team called Maxwell's Demons
<bofh> achievement unlocked: spill coffee on self in meeting with advisor... ✓
<whitequark> move coffee into self
* whitequark mechanically licks fingers
* whitequark remembers they just handled a broken LCD display
<SnoopJeDi> mov coffee, eax
<bofh> whitequark: yum, glass
<whitequark> bofh: more thinking of the electrolyte here
<whitequark> also I just got a wonderful smol hot plate (sadly I have no way to take a pic) and tried to use it to separate the digitizer and the LCD on an old xperia z2 display
<whitequark> well it's interesting
<whitequark> the glue is *incredible*
<bofh> oh?
<whitequark> but also the glass actually bends quite a bit
<whitequark> so if it wasn't cracked in the first place, I think a slow and judicious application of a thin flat object between them would separate them
<whitequark> and the display would come off in a flattish crescent shape from what I can see
<whitequark> like maybe bent 5° from side to side
<bofh> huh, interesting
<bofh> a clopen blizzard sounds annoying
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<bofh> at least it wasn't me compulsively singing Blind Guardian while nobody was looking this time
<bofh> why is A Dark Passage so goddamn catchy
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<egg|zzz|egg> o/ whitequark
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn whitequark
* Qboid gives whitequark a visible reflector
<egg|zzz|egg> also
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh an optical contingent ? which strongly resembles an ordinal
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn egg|zzz|egg
* Qboid gives egg|zzz|egg an erbium arrow-like cardioid
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a moral asterism
<UmbralRaptor> Stellar morality?
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: whitequark got a reflector
<egg|zzz|egg> I'm jealous
<UmbralRaptor> 20 cm?
<egg|zzz|egg> dunno, Qboid didn't give the aperture
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: also, I wonder whether we use 20 cm or 200 mm
<UmbralRaptor> Bad bot!
<egg|zzz|egg> I mean you americans use 8 inches, but you're nuts
<UmbralRaptor> But those eyepiece diameters really are in inches!
<whitequark> egg|zzz|egg: what
<whitequark> reflector?!
<whitequark> like in 'telescope'?
<whitequark> oh
<whitequark> Qboid:
<whitequark> nevermind
<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark: yes, I was talking about the Qboid output
<egg|zzz|egg> good bot
* egg|zzz|egg pets Qboid
<pizzaoverhead> o/
<pizzaoverhead> !wpn pizzaoverhead
* Qboid gives pizzaoverhead a covariant amphibious line
<egg|zzz|egg> *stares at backlog* UmbralRaptor, you want me to try out an OS? what's next, principia requiring its own OS?
<egg|zzz|egg> nah, I think first we'll have principia requiring its own compiler, then its own language, then its own OS, then its own arch
<egg|zzz|egg> clearly at that last stage whitequark is involved somehow
<pizzaoverhead> No custom hardware?
<egg|zzz|egg> principia the mod that requires an FPGA as a coprocessor
<whitequark> sure
<Thomas> principia, the mod that requires its own computational cluster
<UmbralRaptor> egg|zzz|egg: Well, it was more of a name pun, but sure.
<UmbralRaptor> Thomas: That way lies FORTRAN
<SnoopJeDi> so I learned last night while reading a screed about Docker that NERSC's Docker-alike is actually very much in existence already
* egg|zzz|egg forgets to pipe ls -lt into head half the time when looking at the principia log folder
<SnoopJeDi> although it's less of a "Docker is insane let's build around that core idea" than it is "here's how to make your Docker images work on Cori and Edison"
<SnoopJeDi> They claim VMs in general are a target, but it's not clear to what extent that's a "we want" instead of a "we have" feature
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<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark: oh btw, I've been launching solids in KSP to test things recently, here's an example of a visible very old bug that's simple to fix and won't be: once you go fast enough, the smoke appears at fixed intervals in space behind the rocket, leaving a ..... trail behind it. The fix is a one-liner I wrote in a mod https://github.com/sarbian/SmokeScreen/pull/7/files#diff-719c82f22c6b6c0fa35c3fa22c5dd2a6R289
<egg|zzz|egg> (took me two tries because krakensbane)
<Qboid> [#7] title: Fix #6. | Apparently my IDE changed the indentation a bit. We don't use the same coding style (I follow something inspired by the [Google C++ Style Guide](http://google-styleguide.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/cppguide.xml)), so you might want to pretty-print from time to time.... | https://github.com/sarbian/SmokeScreen/issues/7
<egg|zzz|egg> Before the fix: http://imgur.com/SL5bmZ6 and after: http://imgur.com/mPQjwUN
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn GreeningGalaxy
* Qboid gives GreeningGalaxy a parabola
<GreeningGalaxy> !wpn egg|zzz|egg
* Qboid gives egg|zzz|egg a capacitor
<GreeningGalaxy> !wpn whitequark
* Qboid gives whitequark a hippomobile ray tube
<GreeningGalaxy> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh a repeater field
<egg|zzz|egg> GreeningGalaxy: is it one of your explosive capacitors?
<GreeningGalaxy> I dunno, try charging it to a few hundred volts and see
<egg|zzz|egg> also https://twitter.com/diodebot is down again?
<GreeningGalaxy> yes, the server kept mysteriously bricking itself, so I re-imaged it and haven't got around to reinstalling diodebot on it
<GreeningGalaxy> but now that you mention it, perhaps I will
<GreeningGalaxy> there we go, should be up.
<GreeningGalaxy> ;mission
<kmath_> GreeningGalaxy: You try to f?ind the zero-width space hidden in your mission. Using the half-off version of MechJeb was a mistake.
<GreeningGalaxy> I think I found it
<GreeningGalaxy> nice utf-8 support kmath
<egg|zzz|egg> GreeningGalaxy: this sounds tasty btw https://twitter.com/diodebot/status/832406148292702210
<kmath_> <diodebot> croissant-saturated thermosensitive diode
<kmath_> <whitequark> whoa, I forgot how many of these I had to draw https://t.co/4U25EHdK2k
<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark: synapsids \o/
<egg|zzz|egg> (for reasons that are unlikely to become clear again it has become a bit of a recurring theme to classify amniotes coarsely around here)
<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark: there's a cat sleeping next to that mouse?
<egg|zzz|egg> did the cat do the dissection
<whitequark> rat. that's a male rat
<whitequark> not sure why there's a cat
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<egg|nomz|egg> whitequark: it appears to be labelled too
<whitequark> yup
<whitequark> gotta annotate your drawings
<kmath_> <whitequark> there's C++ code and then there's C++ code in Principia https://t.co/7yzqs9v8uL
<GreeningGalaxy> I knew about the non-ascii variable names, but comments in Latin??
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<GreeningGalaxy> (also sorry whitequark, every time I look at your twitter I reflexively retweet everything)
<UmbralRaptor> It's important to properly comment/cite sources. Even if it's the Principia Mathematica.
<GreeningGalaxy> ah, it's a quote. of course.
<egg|nomz|egg> I think there's a meme that would be appropriate for that, but I'm not quite fluent enough in recent memes https://twitter.com/__the_sylph__/status/841161946485407745
<kmath_> <__the_sylph__> @whitequark the latin comment is bothering me more than the code tbh `// newton's third law` would have sufficed
<egg|nomz|egg> the illuminated brains thing? or "me, an intellectual"
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<bofh> so like honestly as far as latin goes I'm finding that very readable
<bofh> <shrug>
<egg|nomz|egg> bofh: it is, I mean, it's Newton's time, not Cato's
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<bofh> well all I know of Cato is "...ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam"
<GreeningGalaxy> also, carthage must be destroyed?
<e_14159> bofh: You might be a few centuries too late.
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<SnoopJeDi> 1) send email to developers asking for documentation of file format they developed but didn't document
<SnoopJeDi> 2) get bounced around a few times
<SnoopJeDi> 3) get undocumented utility script for creating said files from very specific other format, including https://hastebin.com/iduxofidew.cpp
<SnoopJeDi> 4) ???
<UmbralRaptor> 4) Painfully document the file yourself
<UmbralRaptor> 5) Submit a pull request or the like
<UmbralRaptor> 6) Get it rejected for bad reasons
<SnoopJeDi> in fairness, the script is actually pretty clear
<SnoopJeDi> but if you're going to create a specific HDF5 format for your code to use and not specify what the format *is*...
<bofh> hey you got a tool for it and it wasn't binary-only
<bofh> and moreover it wasn't uh
<SnoopJeDi> (I should clarify that the script actually came from a non-developer who has to put up with their bullshit)
<bofh> oh of course. those are always the people with the useful tools.
<UmbralRaptor> Ow
<bofh> oh found it
<bofh> ./bev/fbtoline: a.out SunOS mc68020 demand paged executable not stripped
<bofh> (still not the worst I've had to deal with, but that's the worst I've had to deal with that wasn't by choie)
<bofh> choice*
<SnoopJeDi> I guess I'd be less angry if there was an example file showcasing each feature of the format
<SnoopJeDi> At least then I could play identify-the-pattern instead of reading HDF5 reader/writer code
<bofh> true.
<bofh> hey, look on the bright side, at least it doesn't involve converting IBM floats to IEEE754 :P
<bofh> (I've had to do that *disturbingly often*)
<egg|nomz|egg> *ping*
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* egg pings on floating point talk :-p
<SnoopJeDi> what about root beer float talk?
<egg> that pings me, but that's probably a mistake
<egg> does IEEE 754 talk about root beer
<UmbralRaptor> Note to self: don't misread IBM as ICBM. Especially when floating point math is involved.
<SnoopJeDi> sqrt(beer)
<soundnfury> I was going to go with root beer finding algorithm, but meh
<bofh> ^
<bofh> gradient descent or better?
<SnoopJeDi> I've got an O(1) algorithm
<SnoopJeDi> Go to [local bar]
<soundnfury> bofh: newton, natch
<egg> bofh: I think the only root finder we have in principia is a bisection
<egg> dull, but does the job in bounded time :-p
<SnoopJeDi> Actually, come to think of it, there are two places within spitting distance of each other that serve root beer on draught
<soundnfury> egg: finding roots with the Tsurugi of Muramasa
<SnoopJeDi> but only one of them serves it with Bailey's and a cherry :P
<egg> bofh: ... today in big O being useless: bisection-to-the-ULP is O(1) :D
<UmbralRaptor> soundnfury: stabbity?
<bofh> egg: so I have way too many root finders. my favourite for 1-d is newton-with-aitken-extrapolation for general differentiable functions and laguerre's method for polynomials
<soundnfury> UmbralRaptor: I think it's more a slashing weapon really
<egg> bofh: maybe we'll add that in version Laguerre
<soundnfury> probably can't punch through maille with its point
<egg> if we get to that before we're dead :-p
<egg> slow dev cycle is slow
<bofh> also like there are so many french mathematicians whose names start with L
<bofh> laplace, lagrange, legendre, laguerre, etc...
<soundnfury> also, like all swords, it's really just a sharp crowbar
<egg> bofh: yup
<egg> bofh: also non french speakers tend not to realize what they mean
<bofh> do they, like, have obvious meanings?
<egg> "the square, the barn, the son-in-law, the war, the stammerer..."
<egg> (last one is Lebesgue)
<bofh> so I knew laguerre (and I guess laplace) but none of the others
<SnoopJeDi> [distant joke about Newton and Pascal playing hide and seek]
<soundnfury> bofh: ... leroy...
<soundnfury> (accusing him of being French is fun!)
<soundnfury> also, that one means the king?
<egg> indeed
<egg> old spelling, but it does
<egg> (not *that* old, in the 18th century it's still spelled like that)
<soundnfury> qu'ils mangent des oeufs?
<soundnfury> or is your regime not that ancien?
<egg> whitequark: oh, on the subject of "shoving maths into people", this thing you retweeted sounds like a good way to talk about symplecticity, I need to think about that a bit http://vf.rohanp.xyz/
<whitequark> mm
<egg> SnoopJeDi: yeah but that doesn't propagate an area of the phase space
<egg> also that integrator was a bit shitty iirc
<SnoopJeDi> yea it wasn't Verlet
<egg> also gosh that vector field integraator isn't conservative
<SnoopJeDi> the point about area is a good one
* SnoopJeDi violates Liouville's theorem
* egg stares at red screen
<SnoopJeDi> I've always thought a web demo of the principles of accelerators would be fun
<SnoopJeDi> But can't really grok how to make it not-super-boring
<egg> SnoopJeDi: I've seen the phase space area thing with cat pictures
<egg> cats on a phase space \o/
<SnoopJeDi> it's a topic of great concern to simulation in our field since N_turns is measured in tens of thousands for even hum-drum machines
<SnoopJeDi> well, that and the fact that the coupling force is so much stronger than gravity
<bofh> > * SnoopJeDi violates Liouville's theorem
<bofh> I object.
<soundnfury> Sturm und Drang.
<SnoopJeDi> bofh, the trick is to just be deliberately stubborn about what you call a system! \o/
<SnoopJeDi> (accelerator lattice Hamiltonians are generally only considered in terms of bending and strong focusing, and you treat everything else as perturbations of some variety)
<SnoopJeDi> but since the 6D volume ("emittance" in our jargon) is defined by that Hamiltonian, you can do Clever Things™ that you might not expect are possible if you've had your head buried in Courant-Snyder theory
<egg> SnoopJeDi: do you also tend to typo Hamiltonion, or is that just me being french
<egg> (but then should I not type Hamiltoignon? who knows)
<SnoopJeDi> so far as I know I've never made that typo
<egg> <whitequark> in C++ you can just do computations with constexpr <<< yes, something something UT1 to TT :D
<kmath_> <whitequark> @scanlime don't forget J, K and R
<kmath_> <scanlime> https://t.co/bswtE3PXlE
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<bofh> 21:02 <@egg> <whitequark> in C++ you can just do computations with constexpr <<< yes, something something UT1 to TT :D
<bofh> auuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh
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<egg> bofh: we do that!
<egg> UT1, UTC, TAI, and TT literals, converted to TT at compile time
<egg> TT seconds since J2000 in double is our internal time format
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<egg> !wpn GreeningGalaxy
* Qboid gives GreeningGalaxy a signalling Hittite ristretto
<GreeningGalaxy> !wpn |egg⟩
* Qboid gives |egg⟩ a calcium isomorphism-like torpedo
<egg> ⟨egg|torpedoed|egg⟩
<GreeningGalaxy> the eigenvectors of torpedoed are |thunk⟩ and |BOOM⟩
<Iskierka> blah @ maths examples class and lack of context
* GreeningGalaxy gives Iskierka an arbitrary context
<Iskierka> less arbitrary would be more helpful
<bofh> feels like that's a lot of maths classes.
* Iskierka is unsure how to formally determine if the modulo equivalence classes of addition and multiplication have inverses. Or even if "determine" requires formality
* egg is unsure how to parse Iskierka's question
<bofh> same
<egg> bofh: examples of sets: the empty set is a set; the union of two sets is a set; the intersection of two sets is a set; the singleton containing a set is a set.
<egg> (arguably that's not so much examples as it is ~everything you do~ but :-p)
<bofh> quiet you :P
<egg> Iskierka: tabs tabs tabs tabs tabs tabs tabs tabs
<egg> aaah, additive and multiplicative inverses
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<Iskierka> I logically think there's an inverse of addition since you can trivially loop back around but multiplication is less clear without definition to cleanly read
<egg> additive is obvious, multiplicative is funnier
<Iskierka> I think it may not as multiple entries in one equivalence class could divide to something else?
<Iskierka> but also how do I do this formally, if I need to
<Iskierka> in the modulo 4 equivalence class, [2] can be [1*2] or [3*2] (or commutatives), so trying to inverse with div 2 could be [1] or [3]
<Iskierka> so I think no
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<Iskierka> the table for modulo 4 multiplication does make a pretty pattern though
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<Iskierka> 0 0 0 0
<Iskierka> 0 1 2 3
<Iskierka> 0 2 0 2
<Iskierka> 0 3 2 1
<egg> Iskierka: yup, but do note that 2*2=0; think about the implications for multiplicative inverses
<Iskierka> that's another case of mixed inverses, but by contradiction I only need one to show that there isn't an inverse function
<Iskierka> so [2] is an easy one since I can neatly avoid having to potentially skirt around div 0
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<Iskierka> ... now where the hell did 14 come from in this worked example
* Iskierka starts throwing equation subsections at wolfram
<egg> Ring mit Nullteiler
<egg> !wpn GreeningGalaxy
* Qboid gives GreeningGalaxy a venomous compression
<egg> hmmm, we clearly need a !waffe command to produce things like Ring mit Nullteiler
<GreeningGalaxy> !wpn egg
* Qboid gives egg a spinlock
<egg> whitequark: so, Cardano will have tilt; I gather you don't intend to use RSS? would you nevertheless like some tilted planets?
<whitequark> egg: RSS?
<whitequark> oh, realsolarsystem
<egg> RSS?
<Qboid> egg: [RSS] => Real Solar System
<whitequark> mmm
<whitequark> tilt sounds interesting
<whitequark> wait, does stock ksp not have tilt
<Iskierka> maybe the expander should be extended to identify questioning specific people
<Iskierka> stock KSP doesn't allow planets to be anything other than universe-up axis
<egg> (that won't be in the default, the default will just have retrobop, but I can make a config for you, since I need one to test that tilt works)
<egg> (the default needs retrobop to prevent the apocalypse of course)
<egg> whitequark: as Iskierka says, stock has all axes parallel
<whitequark> *nod*
<whitequark> sure that would be neat
<egg> and that's hardwired quite deep in the game, so we tilt by tilting the universe, keeping the main body vertical :D
<egg> (the map view bodies can be tilted, the body that has terrain cannot)
<egg> we also move the universe around the ship, there's a lot of that when fighting KSP
<egg> whitequark: what should I tilt?
<whitequark> mmm
<whitequark> duna?
<egg> Ok
<egg> do you want Kerbin tilt (and thus Kerbin seasons), or not
<whitequark> that wouldn't actually add any seasoning would it?
<Iskierka> need LoL players for that
<egg> well, it wouldn't make the grass change colour or the weather change, but it would give changes to the length of day
<whitequark> ooh, neat
<whitequark> then I do
<whitequark> does that function correctly with the "warp to next morning" feature etc
<egg> whitequark: ... except the space centre is at the equator actually
<Iskierka> except not significantly at KSC?
<whitequark> oh right
<egg> whitequark: oh, I'm not sure how that all meshes with the warp to next morning, that's a good question
<egg> Iskierka: yeah, just realized that :-p
<soundnfury> mmmmmmmm,
<soundnfury> bacon.
<Iskierka> presumably "next morning" is just to a fixed time of day
<egg> yeah I'd assume KSP to be dumb
<egg> warp to apoapsis etc. don't work, we have our own warp to next manoeuvre in the flight plan
<egg> (the flight plan UI is kind of clumsy, but it's possible to use it :-p)
<egg> ...
<egg> if (Sun.Instance == null)
<egg> {
<egg> Debug.LogError("Cannot time warp to next morning, because there is no sun!");
<egg> return;
<egg> }
<whitequark> LOL
<egg> I mean, sure, but if that's the case half the game will have broken
<Iskierka> ... what on earth is the case they're trying to deal with?
<whitequark> what on kerbin?
<GreeningGalaxy> tsk. my classical mechanics class has us talking only about prograde/retrograde apsis maneuvers and nothing else
<GreeningGalaxy> I asked the prof if I might do my final paper over plane changes and he looked at me like I was stupid and asked me if I'd actually read the chapter
<Iskierka> o.O
<GreeningGalaxy> (I ultimately did my paper about 1/2 what was in the book and 1/2 my own derivations for phase-change maneuvers)
<GreeningGalaxy> not sure if I want to bother getting into plane changes, it's due tomorrow at noon
<GreeningGalaxy> it's tempting. this is my big chance to return the ball-busting favor from all quarter.
<egg> also, silly thoughts: we could release every new moon, and then if hotfixes are needed, release that quarterly
<egg> UmbralRaptor: quarterly means every quarter moon right :-p
<UmbralRaptor> ΑΑΑΑΑ‼
<egg> quarterly: slightly less frequent than weekly
<UmbralRaptor> Extra releases on lunar/solar eclipses?
<UmbralRaptor> (and on apocalypses)
<egg> GAIA?
<egg> huh, is it not an acronym for once
<egg> apparently not
<egg> whitequark: so, I'm not sure whether the "warp to next morning" will work *even without tilt* given that we are the ones rotating the bodies; I might need to stab that feature into submission
<egg> whitequark: although it won't affect KSC much, at least with tilt your polar drones will notice the change in length of day :-p
<UmbralRaptor> Does warp until morning include atmospheric refraction?
<egg> UmbralRaptor: I don't think that's implemented unless you use scatterer?
* UmbralRaptor is being silly. But interesting…
<kmath_> <whitequark> TIL the viscosity of water changes by over a factor of five when heated from 0°C to 100°C¹, which is why it sounds… https://t.co/2zKKSI7bsd
<Iskierka> slightly misleading graph though :p
<Iskierka> also explains why you get splashed with hot water so much more easily than cold, though
<egg> also visible: the density maximum which is always fun
<egg> and iirc the original definition of the kg?
<whitequark> the graph is annoying but I was too lazy to make my own
<egg> I think they had come up with 1 l of water at its density maximum
<egg> yup
<egg> in 1799
<egg> in 1795 they wanted to do it at the freezing point but that turned out not to be convenient
<Iskierka> "But half the time it's bigger!"
<egg> so I guess I could implement a "time to next morning" in C++ and hack my way through to the button to have it call that
<egg> VSMOW?
<Qboid> egg: [VSMOW] => Vienna Standard Mean Ocean Water
<egg> good bot
<egg> SLAP?
<Qboid> egg: [SLAP] => Standard Light Antarctic Precipitation
<pizzaoverhead> SLAP? Sounds Like A Plan :D
<pizzaoverhead> SLAM?
<egg> MaDCoWS?
<Qboid> egg: [MaDCoWS] => Massive and Distant Clusters of WISE Survey
<egg> (astronomers)
<egg> !g MaDCoWS
<Qboid> egg: https://stronglifts.com/madcow-5x5-training-programs/ [Madcow 5x5: How to Gain Brute Strength And Hard Muscle] (75900 results found, took 0.55s)
<egg> uh no
<pizzaoverhead> !acr -add:SLAM Supersonic Low Altitude Missile
<Qboid> pizzaoverhead: I added the explanation for this acronym.
<egg> !g MaDCoWS site:arxiv.org
<Qboid> egg: https://arxiv.org/abs/1403.3361 [The Massive and Distant Clusters of WISE Survey II: Initial ...] (20 results found, took 0.40s)
<egg> much bett.r
<pizzaoverhead> UmbralRaptor: That GAIA post looks cool. Gonna have to brush up on my Java.
<whitequark> egg: lol
<whitequark> (madcow)
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<UmbralRaptor> \o/
<UmbralRaptor> whitequark: I had a prof at my undergrad that was working on the MaDCoWS project.
<egg> whitequark: but then you have MOOs among the MaDCoWS https://arxiv.org/abs/1509.01989
<egg> MOO?
<Qboid> egg: [MOO] => Massive Overdense Object
<UmbralRaptor> As these are galaxy clusters, they are obviously spherical cows in a vacuum.
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<egg> hmm, I should probably do that too
<egg> goodnight UmbralRaptor, whitequark, pizzaoverbed, et al.
<UmbralRaptor> 'night, egg
* UmbralRaptor imagines a pizza hovering over a bed.
<whitequark> night