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<egg> UmbralRaptor: btw, today in "nobody listens to the CGPM and it's bad actually", Google reports to me the number of results with . as thousands sep
<egg> because that's the tradition here, like , is in the US
<egg> well maybe not in switzerland even, here ' is quite frequent esp with money
<egg> . is very much still a thing people do in france
<egg> UmbralRaptor: but on a page of english results with an english ui, this seems like a bad idea...
<egg> UmbralRaptor: thin space! or ', I like '
<egg> it's unambiguous
<egg> with money, where confusion is quite disincentivized, they use that here
<UmbralRaptor> stabbity?
<egg> UmbralRaptor: quite.
<egg> UmbralRaptor: wait eevee has three cats now? O_o https://twitter.com/eevee/status/846167465654599680
<kmath> <eevee> blessed image https://t.co/ywZrzpe9f5
<egg> also zzz
egg is now known as egg|zzz|egg
<egg|zzz|egg> goodnight bofh ferram4 Majiir UmbralRaptor whitequark et al.
<UmbralRaptor> 'night, egg
<UmbralRaptor> egg|zzz|egg: Also, eevee has 4 cats.
<UmbralRaptor> The 4th is highly confusing because it has fur.
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: oh? I don't think I've seen any imagery of that one
<UmbralRaptor> "If he were alive today, Ronald Fisher would have one hell of a Twitter account."
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<SnoopJeDi> Something about my desktop Chrome profile has made Facebook's DraftJS very unhappy...it types in RTL order?
<SnoopJeDi> but only if I start a new sentence, if I type a single character and move the cursor over, it types in LTR again
<SnoopJeDi> ...huh. Isolated it to the "Millenials to Snake People" plugin
<whitequark> lol
<SnoopJeDi> I'm being nerd-sniped
<SnoopJeDi> I haven't eaten dinner, but since DraftJS got a new commit 4 days ago I'm curious what's broken
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<UmbralRaptor> This channel seems to have a great deal of people who forget to eat.
<whitequark> mm, eating
* UmbralRaptor should get around to dinner.
<SnoopJeDi> mostly I have ambivalence because I ate an unethically large lunch and really need to get my intake together
<SnoopJeDi> but I *do* have chicken thighs defrosted, so...
<whitequark> >unethically large lunch
<SnoopJeDi> mostly snark since I'm controlling about food, but not technically incorrect :D
<UmbralRaptor> Unless it was 10 kg of almond-fed beef, or something...
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<SnoopJeDi> Probably something lazy, only around 300 cal to play with depending how willing I am to believe MyFitnessPal's exercise estimates
<SnoopJeDi> (it was a *big* lunch)
<SnoopJeDi> but...javascript...
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<whitequark> "almond-fed beef" omg
<SnoopJeDi> given only bottled water from California to drink
<whitequark> you joke but hong kong has almonds from california
<whitequark> they're quite abundant
<whitequark> also plums from south africa and beef from australia
<SnoopJeDi> I found the bug!
* SnoopJeDi does a jig
<SnoopJeDi> well, I found a place to touch the bug. It might not be the best place to fix it, but I can kludge-fix it for React pretty easily
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<egg|phone|egg> !Wpn whitequark
* Qboid gives whitequark a sharp boat
<whitequark> !wpn egg|phone|egg
* Qboid gives egg|phone|egg a long nickel
* egg|phone|egg gives whitequark a gluon
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a domain
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<UmbralRaptor> !wpn egg|zzz|egg
* Qboid gives egg|zzz|egg a copper decorator
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor!
* UmbralRaptor stabs sleep.
<soundnfury> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor an octanitrocubane diode
<soundnfury> now you can explode unidirectionally!
<UmbralRaptor> Don't try exceeding that one's breakdown voltage.
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: all hail Nature for giving data tables http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v542/n7642/fig_tab/nature21360_SF4.html
<egg|zzz|egg> I think from that I could make my own fit
<UmbralRaptor> \o/
<egg|zzz|egg> (see #principia backlog for why that's needed, interpreting mean elements as osculating breaks things)
<UmbralRaptor> egg|zzz|egg: Also, they use mercury 6 to simulate.
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: I'm pretty sure nobody does anything else
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a precessing decomposition with an UmbralRaptor attachment
<egg|zzz|egg> uh
<egg|zzz|egg> did Qboid chain you to a decomposition
<kmath> <whitequark> matrix decomposition. matrix rot. matrix putrefaction. matrix decay. matrix disintegration. matrix decline. matrix corruption. matrix corros
<egg|zzz|egg> and yup, same as bofh
<egg|zzz|egg> though I wouldn't put it above some algebraic geometer to invent matrix putrefaction
<egg|zzz|egg> !u ᷨ
<Qboid> U+1DE8 COMBINING LATIN SMALL LETTER B (◌ᷨ)
<UmbralRaptor> Qboid: Please do not kill the UmbralRaptors.
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: there are several of you?
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: I like this scale comparison http://cdn.eso.org/images/screen/eso1706b.jpg
<UmbralRaptor> egg|zzz|egg: the dromeosaur collective
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: I may have made the rather obscure pun "?␅"
<egg|zzz|egg> (my obscure puns are translingual so that doesn't help)
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: for pull request
<egg|zzz|egg> !u ?␅
<Qboid> U+1F414 CHICKEN (?)
<Qboid> U+2405 SYMBOL FOR ENQUIRY (␅)
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a repeating tombstone
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn Iskierka
* Qboid gives Iskierka a pike
<egg|zzz|egg> !tell whitequark I hear you like strange theorem names https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excision_theorem
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
<bofh> egg|zzz|egg: I misread that as Extension theorem
<bofh> probably b/c there are SO MANY of those
<egg|zzz|egg> wait why was Καραθεοδωρή not a Principia release :-p
<egg|zzz|egg> aaah, K
<egg|zzz|egg> and I have my answer
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<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn Thomas
* Qboid gives Thomas a mine
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh a mass-driver automorphism
<bofh> !wpn egg|zzz|egg
* Qboid gives egg|zzz|egg a cetacean thulium gegenschein
<bofh> also oh, that's Greek. kept trying to read it as cyrillic and was wondering whytf it made zero sense
<bofh> clearly I need more coffee
<egg|zzz|egg> :D
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: it's quite odd that the Η ended up producing И, and the Ν produced Н
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: some really weird handwriting must have been involved :-p
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: yeah
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: rotating the stroke counts as weird handwriting :-p
<bofh> also cyrillic borrowed both И and І for /i/ (the latter obviously from iota), then the latter got junked in a literary reform
<bofh> they are, however, still separate phonemes in Ukrainian iirc
<egg|zzz|egg> !u ΝΗНИ
<Qboid> U+039D GREEK CAPITAL LETTER NU (Ν)
<Qboid> U+0397 GREEK CAPITAL LETTER ETA (Η)
<Qboid> U+041D CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER EN (Н)
<Qboid> U+0418 CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER I (И)
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: the κατάφρακτοι who say ΝΗ! also the varangians who say НИ
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn Norgg
* Qboid gives Norgg a positive charm cylinder
<Norgg> !wpn egg
* Qboid gives egg a nukular flail
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: I guess part of the eggsplanation may be that Greek -> Latin was when it all was uppercase, whereas Greek -> Cyrillic was with manuscripts full of lowercase; the latter may more easily have its letters deformed (stroke rotation sounds entirely likely with quick handwritten stuff)
<bofh> egg|zzz|egg: LOL
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: ?
<bofh> 14:04:43 <@egg|zzz|egg> bofh: the κατάφρακτοι who say ΝΗ! also the varangians who say НИ
<egg|zzz|egg> ah :D
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: I guess I should say the Варягъ or the Варѧгъ who say НИ
<egg|zzz|egg> !u ѧ
<Qboid> U+0467 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER LITTLE YUS (ѧ)
<bofh> yeah I was in the middle of typing that out (see twitter)
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: you mentioned @egg :-p
<bofh> Варѧги is actually what you want, since it's the nominative plural
<bofh> fuck
<bofh> oh on top of that
<bofh> I don't care then :P (also lol twitter is a trashfire)
<bofh> I thought @eggleroy at the end got shortened b/c sometimes twitter "helpfully" autocompletes usernames. badly.
<bofh> egg|zzz|egg: I like how that joke took two pararaphs to explain to someone who doesn't know greek/cyrillic script and a bit of russian history
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: :D
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: well more byzantine history
<egg|zzz|egg> though pretty much at their intersection
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: aw, the 2-paragraph explanation isn't on twitter :-p
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: so that ѧ stands for a nasal; amusingly in french we'd pronounce varangien with a nasal too (well no, two, one at the end too)
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: ... also "SMALL LETTER LITTLE" >_>
<egg|zzz|egg> not quite as odd as "CAPITAL LETTER SMALL CAPITAL"
<bofh> yes the capital small caps
<kmath> <FakeUnicode> If https://t.co/2y3cmjleRD had won over ASCII or EBCDIC, that is probably what would have happened. @h0m54r https://t.co/ACgHiD97el
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: if that had happened we wouldn't have the turkish I i mess
<UmbralRaptor> AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
<egg|zzz|egg> aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a minion
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn egg|zzz|egg
* Qboid gives egg|zzz|egg a Kahan constant
<egg|zzz|egg> ... is it a NaN
<UmbralRaptor> but he already has got one!
<egg|zzz|egg> > egg == egg
<Soozee> mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
<egg|zzz|egg> > (egg :: Egg) == egg
<UmbralRaptor> Also, you're not zzzing again.
<Soozee> False
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<egg> UmbralRaptor: huh, _Augustus_ has scopes
<egg> Thomas: are they still stealing mods, or what are they doing lately :-p
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<egg> !wpn GreeningGalaxy
* Qboid gives GreeningGalaxy a ⅝λ parabola
<Thomas> egg: Certain people bullied Augustus until he stopped modding
<GreeningGalaxy> !wpn egg
* Qboid gives egg a cathode counter
<egg> Thomas: oh? I had been blissfully unaware of what happens on the fora :-p
* egg counts cathodes
<UmbralRaptor> egg: Are they cats?
<Thomas> That was like 2 years ago
<egg> Thomas: I can remain blissfully unaware for a looong time
<UmbralRaptor> (the ?)
<egg> UmbralRaptor: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/62205-wip122-principia-version-cardano-released-2017-03-28-n-body-and-extended-body-gravitation/&page=27#comment-3001674
<egg> see the sig
<egg> yup, kitties
<GreeningGalaxy> Thomas: was that over the Bacon Labs thing that wasn't really his work, or something else?
<Thomas> He had about 10 of theese threads
<Thomas> 5 where he claimed he made Kopernicus and Planet Factory, and 5 where he just took over part mods and added junk :P
<UmbralRaptor> That's a lot of $$$ on small scopes I think.
<GreeningGalaxy> Wow, I missed that.
<egg> UmbralRaptor: yeah that seems to be a lot of similar scopes too
<egg> like, why would you have so many cats in the same range
<egg> UmbralRaptor: .... is he building a spider
<Thomas> He once said something like: "I brought back Planet Factory using Kopernicus (search for Planet Factory Revived). I assume its ok for me to drop the "Revived" Label?" to the creator of Planet Factory
<egg> UmbralRaptor: spiders are cat interferometers, field cats have spiders...
<UmbralRaptor> Only 2 of them are cats.
<GreeningGalaxy> Thomas: christ, and did he actually do any work at all on that, or just take credit for someone else's?
<egg> UmbralRaptor: ... so he may be making a dog
<UmbralRaptor> I think the 6" is a newt, an the 102 ㎜ is a refractor
<Thomas> GreeningGalaxy: He made some more or less working configs
<Thomas> Without a real idea how things work
<UmbralRaptor> But, like, he could have gotten an 8" dob for as much as either 4"
<UmbralRaptor> It looks like one can find the Mak cheap.
<Thomas> GreeningGalaxy: Another thing I saw from him was asking the users to keep negative critism out of his thread
<GreeningGalaxy> oh yes, I remember that one
<UmbralRaptor> well, if used. New is again 3-5 hectodollars.
<egg> UmbralRaptor: speaking of which, perhaps I should get a cat...
<UmbralRaptor> You should definitely get a cat. Not sure if I'd suggest a cat or a dob to go with the finder scope.
<egg> UmbralRaptor: now I'm confused by the above sentence
<UmbralRaptor> You should definitely get a ?. I'm less certain on the best ? choice.
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* Qboid gives ferram4 a semisimple pulse generator
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<egg> UmbralRaptor: I should probably get an apartment of my own if I want to get a fuzzy binocular cat
<egg> UmbralRaptor: or a half-apartment in a Tits building
<UmbralRaptor> A what building? o_O
<egg> "A part of the data defining a building Δ is a Coxeter group W, which determines a highly symmetrical simplicial complex Σ = Σ(W,S), called the Coxeter complex. A building Δ is glued together from multiple copies of Σ, called its apartments, in a certain regular fashion."
<egg> UmbralRaptor: "If a group G of automorphisms
<egg> of X acts strongly transitively on the spherical building at infinity ∂X, then the G-stabilizer of
<egg> every affine apartment in X contains all reflections along thick walls."
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<UmbralRaptor> That must look weird. >_>
<egg> UmbralRaptor: "wall M in a euclidean building X is called thick if it can be written as the intersection of three apartments. We call a point p ∈ X thick if every wall passing through p is thick. Now we can make the statement about the Weyl group being too big more precise:"
<egg> "Unfortunately, it seems that there is no reasonable way to endow a masure with a CAT(0)-metric."
<egg> UmbralRaptor: 'So, the "building" we can construct has bad
<egg> properties, therefore, we call it an hovel (in french "masure")'
<egg> UmbralRaptor: see those apartments have chambers
<egg> UmbralRaptor: figures! https://arxiv.org/pdf/1506.03594.pdf on page 2
<egg> UmbralRaptor: ... also quite appropriately I just got spam from OPT telescopes advertising their celestrons
<kmath> <FioraAeterna> @barrelshifter @stephentyrone @Gankro @jckarter @mindbrix qNAN, sNAN, indefinite NaN, signed NaNs?
<UmbralRaptor> o_O
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<egg> bofh: UmbralRaptor: http://i.imgur.com/vDH0aVc.png CR3BP \o/ \o/ \o/
<egg> this illustrates the properties of the potential rather nicely
<egg> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh a Bayesian cabbage
<egg> !wpn e_14159
* Qboid gives e_14159 a cetacean pyramid
<egg> !wpn whitequark
* Qboid gives whitequark an adaptive shell
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<egg> !wpn regex
* Qboid gives regex an affine catenoid
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* UmbralRaptor stares at this week's lab.
<egg> CIELAB?
<egg> CIEL*a*b* rather
<egg> CIE?
<egg> !acr -add:CIE Commission Internationale de l'Éclairage
<Qboid> egg: I added the explanation for this acronym.
<UmbralRaptor> AAAAAAAAAAA
<egg> aaaaaaaaaaa
<UmbralRaptor> Most colors are fake.
<UmbralRaptor> Also, J-K_s is more real than "blue"
* egg gives UmbralRaptor a speggtrograph
<e_14159> I was summoned?
<SnoopJeDi> CIE just makes me think of color space. Color space is neato.
<SnoopJeDi> oh, that's what that CIE stands for
<SnoopJeDi> well, neat then. I never bothered caring what the acronym was for
<egg> UmbralRaptor: AΑA?אܐ?አⲀ??!
<UmbralRaptor> SnoopJeDi: I still maintain that the only real colors are photometric or spectroscopic.
<UmbralRaptor> egg 4/11tofu
<egg> UmbralRaptor: all As of sorts
<egg> UmbralRaptor: 1/11 tofu here
<egg> none tofu on my Windows 10 machine
<egg> Windows 10 has good fonts
<UmbralRaptor> Android latest on N5X
<egg> yeah
<egg> I could have added the ugaritic a too
<egg> and maybe the hieroglyph F1
<UmbralRaptor> αΑaA
<bofh> egg: sec, looking
<bofh> UmbralRaptor: spectroscopic
<egg> speggtroscopic
<UmbralRaptor> egg is basically eggbot, but capable of passing the turing test.
<egg> eh, I've never taken it
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<soundnfury> egg: how does never taken it make you feel?
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<egg> !wpn GreeningGalaxy
* Qboid gives GreeningGalaxy a vicious UmbralRaptor
<soundnfury> !wpn egg
* Qboid gives egg a power birb
* soundnfury gives egg a deep fried special parsnip
<egg> UmbralRaptor: I'm don't think a dob would go well with the finder, that's a big finder (and thus would unbalance things)
<egg> s/'m //
<Qboid> egg meant to say: UmbralRaptor: Idon't think a dob would go well with the finder, that's a big finder (and thus would unbalance things)
<egg> UmbralRaptor: now a non-dob newt, why not
<egg> UmbralRaptor: or even a Ritchey-Chrétien why not
<egg> (though that's not very good at planetary things)
<egg> UmbralRaptor: hmm, from the methods section of the recent TRAPPIST-1 paper: "The best-fit solution that we found—
<egg> computed with Mercury52—has a chi-squared of 92 for 68 degrees of freedom, but
<egg> involves non-negligible eccentricities (0.03 to 0.05) for all planets, probably jeopardizing
<egg> the long-term stability of the system"
<egg> that 52 should be a superscript
<egg> it's reference 52 (Chambers)
<egg> not 46 versions ahead of mercury6 :-p
<bofh> !wpn soundnfury
* Qboid gives soundnfury a xenon frustrum
<egg> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh a roasted diapsid
<egg> ...
<egg> Qboid, stop roasting UmbralRaptor
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<bofh> LOL
<SnoopJeDi> !choose comedy format|Maillard reaction
<Qboid> SnoopJeDi: Your options are: comedy format, Maillard reaction. My choice: comedy format
<SnoopJeDi> relatedly, David Weitz is with us starting tomorrow \o/
<SnoopJeDi> microfluidics colloquium tomorrow, science of cooking with local celeb chefs Friday, and probably LN2 ice cream on Saturday
<SnoopJeDi> because he's a cool enough dude that he wants to run a Festival demo
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<egg|phone|egg> !Wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a pythonic nova
* UmbralRaptor explodes via a Type 3.6 supernova.
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<UmbralRaptor> !wpn GreeningGalaxy
* Qboid gives GreeningGalaxy a nominal otter which strongly resembles a cardinal
<egg|phone|egg> UmbralRaptor: ???
<UmbralRaptor> ?⭐, not to be confused with the xray telescope.
<egg|phone|egg> ?
<egg|phone|egg> 古在
<egg|phone|egg> UmbralRaptor ^
* UmbralRaptor stares at homework.
* UmbralRaptor sobs
<egg|phone|egg> 古在!!
<egg|phone|egg> !U !一
<Qboid> U+FF01 FULLWIDTH EXCLAMATION MARK (!)
<Qboid> U+4E00 CJK IDEOGRAPH-4E00 (一)
<egg|phone|egg> Oh wow the Pinyin ime gas a few pages of mathematical symbols and Greek
<egg|phone|egg> [&{},[]](; ,)->(){,({},[]);}();
<UmbralRaptor> egg|phone|egg: Not running that regex.
<egg|phone|egg> [&{},[]](; ,)->(){,({},[]);}(,);
<egg|phone|egg> UmbralRaptor: it is not a regex
<egg|phone|egg> UmbralRaptor: I think because of ç++'s Unicode handling it may be a valid λ
<UmbralRaptor> why ç and not c?
<soundnfury> egg|phone|egg: it reminds me of :() {:|:;};:
<egg|phone|egg> Because ?☎️?
<soundnfury> (not sure if I got that right)
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<soundnfury> don't paste that into bash btw
<soundnfury> unless you like having a fork bomb take out your system
<soundnfury> or unless you have good rlimits setup I suppose
<egg> yup, checked it https://godbolt.org/g/yldL9c (also poking whitequark because C++ λ syntax and Unicode fullwidth shenanigans)
<whitequark> m
<Qboid> whitequark: egg|zzz|egg left a message for you in #kspacademia [29.03.2017 13:31:57]: "I hear you like strange theorem names https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excision_theorem"
<egg> whitequark: you've heard about Tits buildings and apartments and walls etc. from bofh already right?
<egg> whitequark: otherwise see that backlog snippet https://logs.tmsp.io/kspacademia/2017-03-29#1490805254-1490806374;
<egg> also zzz
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<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn whitequark
* Qboid gives whitequark a nutating ℻
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn goodnight
* Qboid gives goodnight a nutating graded infimum
<whitequark> !wpn dad
* Qboid gives dad a jellied heptagon which strongly resembles a function generator
<egg|phone|egg> Dad?
<egg|phone|egg> Diode-Array Detector!
<egg|phone|egg> Zzzzzz
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<soundnfury> !wpn egg|z|egg
* Qboid gives egg|z|egg a skew king
<kmath> <sdssurveys> .@galahsurvey @APOGEEsurvey https://t.co/dmOcbPMLF5
<UmbralRaptor> egg: ^
<egg|z|egg> Do they use cats
<UmbralRaptor> RCT, I think.
<UmbralRaptor> Maybe some lenses in the spectrograph itself?
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<GreeningGalaxy> heatshrink tubing is made of magic and glory
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