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<discord-_> e​gg. — (I believe @lpg had alluded to that annoyance)
<deadraptop> how long is a day?
<deadraptop> (I assume defined as 86400 s)
<discord-_> e​gg. — depends on the setting; but we use d for 24-hour days, d6 for Kerbal days
<deadraptop> ah
<deadraptop> . o O (planning time: 1d6 days)
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<discord-_> P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they). — Will this also allow inputs such as 6.5d
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<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — What is the difference in time compared to an old version (roughly)
<discord-> d​enebw. — how to do a e-v-v-e-j assist?
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<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — Simply: you don't
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — At least not easily
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — Flyby finder is bad at finding double flybys
<discord-> C​risti. — You have to wait for Zeusbeer to learn Gmat a little bit more
<discord-> C​risti. — Meanwhile, the best solution is to look for past missions at least to know the dates when it is possible
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<discord-> b​ongotastic. — WHile @Zeusbeer figures out GMAT, "Flyby Finder" is a mod or an external application?
<discord-> b​ongotastic. — This is it? https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/73174-win-flyby-finder-v086-ksp13/
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<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — Yeah it's a bit old but it still works
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — It's a bit vague to use
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — You need to have the RSS version
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — Somehow Reach used it to find his 3800 m/s grand tour
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — Yeah about this, this will take a really long time
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — For even finding an optimal TLI, you need quite a complicated multiple shooting optimizer
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — and it's really non-trivial to do this
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<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — and it's really non-trivial script this with GMAT (edited)
<discord-> C​risti. — Yep I know.
<discord-> C​risti. — That's why NASA has really smart people and it takes a LOT of man-hours to do it
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<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — Yeah I feel like GMAT isn't worthed at all for finding a ksp mission
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — I got scared when somebody said that they'd run guesses for 3 days on 3 different machines to find something reasonable first for a multiple body flyby mission
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — I got scared when somebody said that they'd run guesses for 3 days on 3 different machines to find something reasonable first for a multiple body flyby mission to get to Uranus (edited)
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — just use flyby finder, if reach can use it, so can we
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — just use flyby finder, if Reach can use it, so can we (I hope) (edited)
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — just use flyby finder, if Reach can use it for an efficient 8 body grand tour, we should be capable to use it for a 3 body flyby mission (edited)
* deadraptop chooses to interpret 3 body flyby mission as what would have happened if Dawn had had fewer problems and been able to also visit Pallas
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — its a bit sad that flyby finder is bad at doing double consecutive flybys
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — I wonder if KSPTOT would work for finding launch windows for multiple flyby missions too
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — I wonder if KSPTOT would work for finding launch windows for multiple flyby missions too, I just have no Idea how to use it lol (edited)
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — I wonder if KSPTOT would work for finding launch windows for multiple flyby missions with principia too, I just have no Idea how to use it lol (edited)
<discord-> D​amien. — Reach is an advanced AI from the future though so he doesn't count
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — AlphaReach
<discord-> C​risti. — I was wondering what Reach is using beside info from past missions, that guy is incredible
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<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — I love the recommended video after the grand tour from Reach
<discord-> P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they). — So, trial, error, and patience?
<discord-> C​risti. — wait, half an year of real life?
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — :snf:
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — what did you expect
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — what did you expect? (edited)
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — He used the ultra-slow physics mod to do the correction manouvers
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — but the amount of patience it takes to even use sliders from the planner to get 2 flybys in a row in interplanetary space 😂
<discord-> P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they). — Wait, isn't it normal to use the slow physics mod for manouvers?
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — I never used it
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — I just use RCS
<discord-> C​risti. — So, the answer is more boosters
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — isn't it always?
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