egg changed the topic of #principia to: Logs: https://esper.irclog.whitequark.org/principia | <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly…
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<queqiao-> ⟨J​osephIsHere⟩ Do you guys have any tips for landing on Phobos? I have tried 4 times and they all failed
<queqiao-> ⟨J​osephIsHere⟩ They all failed to get into an orbit
<queqiao-> ⟨l​pg⟩ don't try getting into an orbit
<queqiao-> ⟨J​osephIsHere⟩ What do I do? Do I try to get a direct landing?
<queqiao-> ⟨J​osephIsHere⟩ I’ll try that
<queqiao-> ⟨J​osephIsHere⟩ Also, is it ok if I’m in a retrograde Mars orbit?
<bees> land on a far side of Phobos, i guess?
<UmbralRaptop> Try more of a docking than a landing? Also, uh, doesn't Phobos orbit progress?
<queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ You can use a grappling hook but I'm not sure if that exists in RP1, pretty sure KAS has one though
<queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ It's quite consistent for landing on low gravity surfaces
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<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #3137: Headers for the new-style DiscreteTrajectory - https://git.io/J2Fp7
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<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin reviewed pull request #3137 commit - https://git.io/J2bz1
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<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin closed issue #3078: Principia uses icon color instead of orbit color - https://git.io/JBzD3
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/J2bQU
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin fca48cb - possibly a different colour
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin 0b797a3 - Merge pull request #3135 from eggrobin/farbe Orbits of a possibly different colour
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin closed pull request #3135: Orbits of a possibly different colour - https://git.io/J23Q5
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin closed issue #3131: Target: the Jupiter - https://git.io/JgCfA
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin closed pull request #3134: Use the translated celestial name in the celestial targeting UI - https://git.io/J23wR
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<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin 0d2ce62 - Use the translated celestial name in the celestial targeting UI
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin 8dc90b9 - Merge pull request #3134 from eggrobin/the-jupiter Use the translated celestial name in the celestial targeting UI
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<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin opened pull request #3138: Next release is Halley - https://git.io/J2xUL
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<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/J2xpz
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin 7cbbff0 - Next release is Halley.
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin 541a52f - Merge pull request #3138 from eggrobin/halley Next release is Halley
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin closed pull request #3138: Next release is Halley - https://git.io/J2xUL
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy created tag 2021100611-Hadamard - https://git.io/fpDwq
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy tagged 541a52f as 2021100611-Hadamard https://git.io/J2pzx
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #3137: Headers for the new-style DiscreteTrajectory - https://git.io/J2Fp7
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy reviewed pull request #3137 commit - https://git.io/Jaeqd
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #3137: Headers for the new-style DiscreteTrajectory - https://git.io/J2Fp7
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy pushed 5 commits to Ondelette [+12/-0/±14] https://git.io/JaemC
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<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy 03d7dab - Moveability.
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<queqiao-> ⟨S​paceman Spiff⟩ Uhhhh probably not as you’ll be going in the opposite direction relative to Phobos
<queqiao-> ⟨J​osephIsHere⟩ Oh no. I’ll just re try the mission in a couple hundred days
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<queqiao-> ⟨l​pg⟩ Not sure if bug or feature: normally, when one turns on Hack Gravity, any outstanding flight plan is discarded. But if one quickloads into a vessel with a flight plan while Hack Gravity is enabled, the flight plan is "preserved", insofar as its navball indicator is shown. (but the flight plan window can't be opened)
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<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ I think « the escape web behaves in mysterious ways » is in the « neither bug nor feature » area
<queqiao-> ⟨M​axim_⟩ Can I still add Principia to my already running save?
<queqiao-> ⟨M​axim_⟩ I am still early in my career and haven't put anything into orbit yet.
<raptop> Yes, but it's recommended to avoid having things in-flight and definitely not on interplanetary transfers
<queqiao-> ⟨S​tonesmile⟩ As raptop said; the planets will be in different places, so vessels heading towards a planet will be heading to nothing
<queqiao-> ⟨M​axim_⟩ Yeah that's no problem, I restarted so there isn't anything in orbit yet
<queqiao-> ⟨S​tonesmile⟩ Other than that, it's fine to add Principia
<queqiao-> ⟨M​axim_⟩ Okay, thanks!
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ I think « the escape hatch behaves in mysterious ways » is in the « neither bug nor feature » area (edited)