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<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #3140: DiscreteTrajectorySegmentRange - https://git.io/JreCT
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<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #3140: DiscreteTrajectorySegmentRange - https://git.io/JreCT
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<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy 42eb212 - Range.
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<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy 6422bbe - Merge pull request #3140 from pleroy/RangeIterator DiscreteTrajectorySegmentRange
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<queqiao-_> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ How come despite me burning exactly as much as the manoeuvre needed me to, its in reality NOWHERE near the moon?
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<queqiao-_> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ Then burning a bit more, it flies straight over it? It's nothing like the manoeuvre.
<queqiao-_> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ I've never been able to get a good TLI because despite burning exactly, it's never close.
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<queqiao-_> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ Even using a RCS mid course correction burn doesnt really work
<queqiao-_> ⟨l​pg⟩ one obvious thing you may be overlooking is that engines don't reach 100% thrust instantly, and princpia's flight plans don't reflect that
<queqiao-_> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ But even then, I burnt the extra, but its nowhere near it
<queqiao-_> ⟨l​pg⟩ burning at the wrong time isn't going to get the right result
<queqiao-_> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ But I'm not burning at the wrong time
<queqiao-_> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ I give it the time to spool up.
<queqiao-_> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ Pressed Z about 2 seconds to when you're to start the burn.
<queqiao-_> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ Fired up pretty much right on time
<queqiao-_> ⟨P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ Set up a maneuver for a correction burn
<queqiao-_> ⟨l​pg⟩ ok, then that's not the problem
<queqiao-_> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ I'm using RCS so it's not letting me, at least I think thats the reason, it's not showing me the sliders.
<queqiao-_> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ I can only change when it fires
<queqiao-_> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ but cant change why it fires
<queqiao-_> ⟨l​pg⟩ that doesn't sound right
<queqiao-_> ⟨l​pg⟩ principia is actually quite good at doing flight plans with rcs
<queqiao-_> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ Is there a better reference frame than MCMF?
<queqiao-_> ⟨l​pg⟩ for the moon, they're all more or less equivalent
<queqiao-_> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ I see.
<queqiao-_> ⟨l​pg⟩ oh wait
<queqiao-_> ⟨l​pg⟩ for the _maneuver_, MCMF is completely wrong, you want ECI
<queqiao-_> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ oh
<queqiao-_> ⟨l​pg⟩ (but that wouldn't explain result not matching plan)
<queqiao-_> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ I don't understand why the manoeuvre is like im in a circular-like orbit around earth, whem I'm obviously node
<queqiao-_> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ I don't understand why the manoeuvre is like im in a circular-like orbit around earth, when I'm obviously not (edited)
<queqiao-_> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ Wait, maybe pressing rebase helped?
<queqiao-_> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ yep
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<queqiao-_> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ Made the node in MCFM, ended up finding that much easier
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<queqiao-_> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ also
<queqiao-_> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ for some reason the sun has decided to disappear, leaving everything in darkness
<queqiao-_> ⟨P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ That sounds like a non-principia bug
<queqiao-_> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ Yeah I know
<queqiao-_> ⟨P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ A quick partial work around would be to go into the cheat menu and show biomes
<queqiao-_> ⟨l​pg⟩ sorry, I meant for the TLI maneuver. for course correction any frame might be better than any other frame depending on what the correction needs to be (since all it does is change which direction points where)
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<queqiao-_> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ Alright, since KSP just crashed not long after the sun disappeared, I'll try again tomorrow.
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