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<queqiao-_> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ When another picture of eggs cat?
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<queqiao-_> ⟨e​gg⟩ @lpg @Butcher could you send us a recent save? we are overhauling the trajectories so it would be nice to have a real-life save to check that we don’t break compatibility
<queqiao-_> ⟨B​utcher⟩ I haven't played in a while, but I can send you something - my Mercury save would probably be as valid as anything though.
<queqiao-_> ⟨e​gg⟩ if you don’t have something recent I don’t think it’s useful to add another, we’ll definitely test against the Mercury save too
<queqiao-_> ⟨e​gg⟩ (I think we would want something post-Haar, because we happened to change something in Haar)
<raptop> "Haar" sounds far too much like an acroynm for something
<queqiao-_> ⟨l​pg⟩ 37MB, late 1958, a few vessels in orbit of inner planets, a bunch in interplanetary space. Nothing very old
<queqiao-_> ⟨l​pg⟩ (from Haar, so hoping "post" means 'x or later')
<queqiao-_> ⟨s​ichelgaita⟩ Haar is good, thanks.
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* raptop guesses that http://lucy.swri.edu/mission/Spacecraft.html might be relevant for instruments for that whole mission selection thing
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #3158: Serialization of DiscreteTrajectory - https://git.io/JKder
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<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #3158: Serialization of DiscreteTrajectory - https://git.io/JKder
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<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #3158: Serialization of DiscreteTrajectory - https://git.io/JKder
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy pushed 7 commits to Ondelette [+0/-0/±19] https://git.io/JKNcn
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy eecabca - Writing a complete trajectory.
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy 142c0c5 - Remove references to Grothendieck.
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy 4036430 - Reading without compatibility.
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<queqiao-_> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ Will Lucy just hop from trojan to trojan
<queqiao-_> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ Will Lucy just hop from trojan to trojan? (edited)
<queqiao-_> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ Also a question more relevant to this channel: What kind of trajectory is it taking, going to L4 / L5 of Jupiter efficiently does not seem quite trivial
<queqiao-_> ⟨s​iimav⟩ It's flyby so won't try to orbit the Lagrange points
<queqiao-_> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ ah I thought it was gonna land on them 😦
<queqiao-_> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ wrong pictures on random dutch news outlets then
<queqiao-_> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ I am much more exited for NASAs Venus mission tbh
<queqiao-_> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ and the dragonfly Titan one
<queqiao-_> ⟨S​tonesmile⟩ After 2 earth gravity assists it will end up in a 6 yrs orbit, first gping to the trojans in fron of jupiter, then the ones behind
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<queqiao-_> ⟨r​ocketman⟩ Lucy is quite a cool mission, may not be as flashy as Dragonfly but it's still very important
<queqiao-_> ⟨r​ocketman⟩ should yield valuable data and findings about ancient asteroids and solar system development
<queqiao-_> ⟨r​ocketman⟩ Also, I love how strange the trajectory looks when viewed from a heliocentric reference frame rotating with jupiter, but when you look at it in a regular non-rotating frame it looks pretty ordinary
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<queqiao-_> ⟨e​xpanders are superior⟩ Is dragonfly a real thing? As in it’s getting built?
<queqiao-_> ⟨R​ealMaker⟩ Things with launch dates are mostly real: https://www.nasa.gov/feature/dragonfly-launch-moved-to-2027
<queqiao-_> ⟨e​xpanders are superior⟩ Yo
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<queqiao-_> ⟨§​κyℓαr ♀⟩ I really hope this works out well, titan is criminally underrated and seemingly the perfect place for such flying things uwu
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<queqiao-_> ⟨e​xpanders are superior⟩ Is there. Allan for any insight hardware to be directly integrated for dragonfly? Or did they use it more for just a test