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⟨Yeetus Diabeetus(male)⟩ What about l3 4 or l5
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⟨ZombieZilla⟩ L4 and L5, just aim for 60 degrees ahead
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⟨ZombieZilla⟩ We don't speak of L3
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⟨ZombieZilla⟩ L4 and L5, just aim for 60 degrees ahead or behind (edited)
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⟨Joco223⟩ Has anyone had problems with Principia and JNSQ? For some reason, even on a new save, game runs considerably slower than for example Principia with stock or RSS
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⟨Joco223⟩ Tried adjusting the amount of steps and history length etc, it did help mitigate it somewhat but it's still quite slow
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⟨Joco223⟩ With version Hadamard, haven't tried others
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⟨Al2Me6⟩ Hardware? You'll want to qualify 'considerably slower' a lot more carefully, methinks.
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⟨Joco223⟩ True, Ryzen 5 3600, GTX 1660, 16gb ddr4 ram, KSP installed on an nvme ssd
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⟨Joco223⟩ I haven't taken exact measurements for fps but I'd say from regular 50ish it goes down to 25-30
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⟨Joco223⟩ I could go and measure them if it's helpful
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[Principia] pleroy 2b36c84 - Merge pull request #3163 from pleroy/Astronomy Convert astronomy to DiscreteTraject0ry
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⟨Grimmas⟩ for what it's worth i have recently tried principia both in stock and in JNSQ and did not see any noticeable differences. I didn't exactly do a qualified study though.
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⟨Grimmas⟩ That is to say, they were both "a bit slow" lol
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⟨Grimmas⟩ try to limit the time frame it looks into the distance. The more math it has to do the worse it will get.
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⟨Grimmas⟩ JNSQ theoretically has around two times as many celestial bodies as stock and since this is n-body physics then I suppose you'll see O(N^2) type of performance
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⟨Grimmas⟩ So every extra planet needs to compute gravity for every other planet, then the impact from each additional planet will get disproportionally worse until your CPU finally gives up 🙂
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⟨lpg⟩ > considerably slower than for example Principia with stock _or RSS_
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⟨lpg⟩ wild guess, forgot to delete asteroids
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⟨Chad Lancer⟩ How do you delete asteroids? I never did that..
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⟨Al2Me6⟩ Other wild guess, it’s using a poor choice of integrator for a system its size
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⟨Chad Lancer⟩ Do I just delete everything in <KSP directory>\GameData\Squad\Parts\Misc?
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⟨Chad Lancer⟩ Or at least the potatoes?
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⟨Grimmas⟩ if you edit Kopernicus config and change UseKopernicusAsteroidSystem to "false" that should be enough to stop asteroids i think
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⟨Chad Lancer⟩ I deleted them and set it to false.
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[Principia] pleroy synchronize pull request #3164: Add back and front to the classes that have sequence semantics - https://git.io/JiOiK
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[Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #3164: Add back and front to the classes that have sequence semantics - https://git.io/JiOiK
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[Principia] eggrobin pushed 1 commit to revert-3164-Back [+0/-0/±17] https://git.io/JiOjl
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[Principia] eggrobin 99370c6 - Revert "Add back and front to the classes that have sequence semantics"
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[Principia] eggrobin created branch revert-3164-Back - https://git.io/fpDwq
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[Principia] eggrobin opened pull request #3165: Revert "Add back and front to the classes that have sequence semantics" - https://git.io/JiOjr
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[Principia] eggrobin closed pull request #3165: Revert "Add back and front to the classes that have sequence semantics" - https://git.io/JiOjr
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[Principia] eggrobin pushed 2 commits to Ondelette [+0/-0/±34] https://git.io/JiOji
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[Principia] eggrobin 061538b - Merge pull request #3165 from mockingbirdnest/revert-3164-Back Revert "Add back and front to the classes that have sequence semantics"
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[Principia] eggrobin pushed 1 commit to revert-3163-Astronomy [+0/-0/±14] https://git.io/JiOjM
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[Principia] eggrobin d3bc6b8 - Revert "Convert astronomy to DiscreteTraject0ry"
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[Principia] eggrobin created branch revert-3163-Astronomy - https://git.io/fpDwq
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[Principia] eggrobin opened pull request #3166: Revert "Convert astronomy to DiscreteTraject0ry" - https://git.io/JiOjy
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[Principia] eggrobin synchronize pull request #3169: Stat rosa pristina nomine - https://git.io/Ji3vo
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[Principia] pleroy edited pull request #3168: Add back and front to the classes that have sequence semantics - https://git.io/Ji3eV
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[Principia] pleroy pushed 2 commits to Ondelette [+0/-0/±18] https://git.io/Ji3U2
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[Principia] pleroy ce25330 - Implement back and front.
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[Principia] pleroy 1a70d63 - Merge pull request #3168 from eggrobin/front-and-back-again Add back and front to the classes that have sequence semantics
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[Principia] pleroy labeled pull request #3168: Add back and front to the classes that have sequence semantics - https://git.io/Ji3eV