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<queqiao-> ⟨r​ocketman⟩ N-body comes from a general notation in mathematics where N refers to an arbitrarily large number
<queqiao-> ⟨D​amien⟩ As in the correct number of expensive toys to own is N+1 where N is the number you currently own
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<queqiao-> ⟨E​ggElectron⟩ Hello. Does the flight planner take into account multiple engine stages in the burn time if a burn requires staging and using multiple engines? or is the burn time calculated solely based on the current stage's active engine?
<queqiao-> ⟨A​mselfass⟩ Only active engines, it doesn't 'foresee' staging.
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<queqiao-> ⟨k​erbinator⟩ however 3 is already large for n-body dynamics
<queqiao-> ⟨k​erbinator⟩ especially when mass is close to equal
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<queqiao-> ⟨(​ᴇxᴘᴇʀɪᴍᴇɴᴛᴀʟshells)⟩ acquisition of tous by induction
<raptop> But have you yet acquired a tungsten cube?
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #3173: Change the representation of the time-to-segment map - https://git.io/JibWI
<queqiao-> ⟨r​ocketman⟩ So, does it look like KSP 2 is going to be implementing some kind of restricted 3-body problem for large objects around a barycenter?
<queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ if they implement anything n-body related I will be suprised, they will just do conics like in stock
<queqiao-> ⟨P​umpkinaxe⟩ Raptop, i do actually have a tungsten cube!
<queqiao-> ⟨P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ They claim it is 2.5 body physics
<raptop> CUBE
<queqiao-> ⟨P​umpkinaxe⟩ YES!
* raptop wonders what the devs mean by "2.5 body" physics
<queqiao-> ⟨P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ Maybe it is treated as n body within the binary, but outside of the binary, it is treated as conic approximations?
<queqiao-> ⟨P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ (by within the binary, I meant within the SOI of the binary according to the game)
<queqiao-> ⟨r​ocketman⟩ that was my thinking as well
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<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #3173: Change the representation of the time-to-segment map - https://git.io/JibWI
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<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy ce0d285 - Try to improve the left endpoints.
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy 763749a - Some more work on the left endpoints.
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy 0ca5bbd - Splicing.
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<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin reviewed pull request #3160 commit - https://git.io/JPsZN
<queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ 2.5 body physics, maybe they change the universe in a three dimensional fractal 🤔
<queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ Mengers sponge universe approximation
<queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ Mengers sponge system approximation (edited)
<queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ honestly 2.5 body physics sounds really stupid, what meaning would it have
<queqiao-> ⟨l​pg⟩ "we hacked something in so lagrange points would work"
<queqiao-> ⟨P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ + marketing
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #3174: More consistency checks and some fixes in trajectories - https://git.io/JPs6M
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<queqiao-> ⟨Z​ombieZilla⟩ Rask and rusk is the only thing they've revealed to have 3 body
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ probably restricted 3-body, i.e. 2 bodies + one test particle
<queqiao-> ⟨Z​ombieZilla⟩ And it will be localised to them, so once you get close enough, it'll switch to 3body
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ 2.5 probably means restricted 3-body, i.e. 2 bodies + one test particle (edited)
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ 2.5 probably means restricted 3-body, i.e. 2 massive bodies + one test particle (edited)
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ 2.5 probably means restricted 3-body, i.e. 2 massive bodies + one massless body (edited)
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<queqiao-> ⟨A​lex6511⟩ Yeah, the stuff I read seemed to imply it was special handling for those bodies
<queqiao-> ⟨A​lex6511⟩ They have previously said L-points would not be simulated, afai
<queqiao-> ⟨A​lex6511⟩ They have previously said L-points would not be simulated, afaik (edited)
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #3174: More consistency checks and some fixes in trajectories - https://git.io/JPs6M
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<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy 337a572 - Fix DeleteSegments to trim the time-to-segment map and add consistency checks everywhere.
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy 9599904 - Renaming.
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy f4e4462 - Merge pull request #3174 from pleroy/MoreConsistency More consistency checks and some fixes in trajectories
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<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #3175: Convert PileUp and its test to DiscreteTraject0ry - https://git.io/JPGqt
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<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ that’s… a rather strange statement, it’s not like you can simulate them without dealing with the restricted 3-body problem, or have the restricted 3-body problem without having them
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ that’s… a rather strange statement, it’s not like you can simulate them without dealing with the restricted 3-body problem, or have the restricted 3-body problem without having them… (edited)
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ that’s… a rather strange statement, it’s not like you can simulate them without dealing with the restricted 3-body problem, nor have the restricted 3-body problem without having them… (edited)
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #3175: Convert PileUp and its test to DiscreteTraject0ry - https://git.io/JPGqt
<queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ I feel like the assumption that they'll do things physically is not necessarily a safe one to make...
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #3175: Convert PileUp and its test to DiscreteTraject0ry - https://git.io/JPGqt
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<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy 2e7d6c3 - Start to change PileUp.
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy 852dad8 - Merge branch 'Redo' into PileUp
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy 4a9c577 - Forgetting with an iterator.
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<queqiao-> ⟨P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ Maybe they just means that the two bodies orbit the barycenter, like how planet mods without principia sometimes get it to work
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