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<queqiao-> ⟨L​unarDust⟩ If i leave a satellite orbiting duna for 4 years will the history slow the game down?
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<queqiao-> ⟨l​pg⟩ Is there any way to see an orbiting Target vessel's prediction (or history) line while current vessel is Landed?
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<queqiao-> ⟨L​unarDust⟩ can principia be downloaded with ckan
<queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ 2x no I believe, if a craft landed the history is gone and principia has to be download manually
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<queqiao-> ⟨P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ No, you have to download it from the link in the readme and install it manually.
<queqiao-> ⟨S​ir Mortimer⟩ Make sure to read said readme.
<queqiao-> ⟨O​asis⟩ What if I never learned how to read
<queqiao-> ⟨O​asis⟩ Oh wait
<queqiao-> ⟨B​utcher⟩ That is left as an exercise for the reader. 😉
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<queqiao-> ⟨Z​ombieZilla⟩ 30 debris and 27 probes in orbit, I'm surprised my scene transitions are so fast
<queqiao-> ⟨P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ It probably has to do with the giant pagefile.
<queqiao-> ⟨T​ori⟩ Can someone help me with launching to the moon?I'm trying to impact it but I don't know a good time to launch so I can actually be aligned well,how can I find out
<raptop> Step 0) Launch from Kourou
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ You have 2 options:
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ 1.
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ Code your own kOS script that calculates your Launch LAN to get a cheap encounter.
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ 2.
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ Swallow your pride and download a kOS script from someone else after trying to figure it out for several hours.
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ You have 2 options:
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ 1.
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ Code your own kOS script that calculates your Launch LAN to get a cheap encounter.
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ 2.
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ Swallow your pride and download a kOS script from someone else after trying to figure it out for several hours. (edited)
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ You have 2 options:
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ 1.
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ Code your own kOS script that calculates your Launch LAN based on Latitude and the postion of the moon to get a cheap encounter.
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ 2.
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ Swallow your pride and download a kOS script from someone else after trying to figure it out for several hours. (edited)
<queqiao-> ⟨T​ori⟩ No is there really not a tool
<queqiao-> ⟨T​ori⟩ Or just someone to teach me about LAN
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ There is(was?) a spreadsheet with launch dates somehwere
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ But its generally easier to just nab a script for kOS from Butcher or Ryan
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ But its generally easier to just nab a kOS script from Butcher or Ryan (edited)
<queqiao-> ⟨T​ori⟩ Can I really not just eyeball it...or can someone teach me to use parking or it's or show me someone who will
<queqiao-> ⟨T​ori⟩ Can I really not just eyeball it...or can someone teach me to use parking orbita or it's or show me someone who will (edited)
<queqiao-> ⟨T​ori⟩ Can I really not just eyeball it...or can someone teach me to use parking orbits or it's or show me someone who will (edited)
<queqiao-> ⟨l​pg⟩ other people's kOS scripts _are_ the tool you're askig for
<queqiao-> ⟨T​ori⟩ So parking orbits don't work?
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ You need a *specific* parking orbit to do a cheap enxounter
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ These kOS scripts give you that specific parking orbit
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ You need a *specific* parking orbit to do a cheap encounter (edited)
<queqiao-> ⟨T​ori⟩ And here I thought I could actually do it
<raptop> AFAIK, it's eyeballable, but too many people will start from KSC where the good windows are years (if not decades) apart, or Baikonur where they're never
<queqiao-> ⟨P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ If you can eyeball a polar mun launch in stock, you can eyeball this
<queqiao-> ⟨l​pg⟩ > KSC where the good windows are years (if not decades) apart, or Baikonur where they're never
<queqiao-> ⟨l​pg⟩ that's only ever a concern if you care about launch azimuths. otherwise, any lattitude gets 2 opportunities per day to do a due-east launch, with no meaningful difference in "window quality"
<queqiao-> ⟨l​pg⟩ eyeballing a polar launch is pretty easy. line up your vessel, the north pole, and a point ~half a week in front of the moon. eyeballing a due-east launch is trickier
<queqiao-> ⟨P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ Especially if you don't have the opportunity for corrections
<queqiao-> ⟨k​erbalman95⟩ Hey Guys, need some help executing maneuver planning
<queqiao-> ⟨k​erbalman95⟩
<queqiao-> ⟨k​erbalman95⟩ I'm learning how to use the mod to get a free return from the Mun. I’m using MechJeb to execute it "execute next Principia node", it will warp to just before the node, aim at it but not fire the engines. When I try to complete the maneuver manually, the dV doesn't change. Does anyone know what's going on and how to fix it?
<queqiao-> ⟨k​erbalman95⟩ Or there is a good way to execute those burns
<queqiao-> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ ∆v doesn't change on the manuever node as you burn in principia
<queqiao-> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ Like it'll always say you need to burn 3200m/s
<queqiao-> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ even after burning 3100m/s for example
<queqiao-> ⟨k​erbalman95⟩ So, is there any option or tip to execute those burns
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ Start the burn when the fligh planner is at 0s to ignition
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ Burn until the planner tells you to stop
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<queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ Principia integrates the manoeuvre node for you :RO:
<queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ Thank you wonderful minds behind this mod for doing that!
<queqiao-> ⟨k​erbalman95⟩ Yes, it’s awesome; but not so good at executing burns 😖
<queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ Well that's the neat part
<queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ If you start burning at t-00:00:00:00 on the principia counter your burn will follow the planned trajectory
<queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ :magic:
<queqiao-> ⟨k​erbalman95⟩ I’m trying, kind of difficult but that is the amazing part of burning 😅
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<queqiao-> ⟨(​ᴇxᴘᴇʀɪᴍᴇɴᴛᴀʟshells)⟩ note that this does not work with multiple stages because your dry mass changes
<queqiao-> ⟨k​erbalman95⟩ Didn’t know that, thanks
<queqiao-> ⟨k​erbalman95⟩ But, could it be executed with MechJeb ?
<queqiao-> ⟨l​pg⟩ not perfectly, but it should at least be trying
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<queqiao-> ⟨O​sirin⟩ is Principia harder than stock physics?
<queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ Depends on what you consider 'hard', IMO.
<queqiao-> ⟨O​sirin⟩ is it more of a pain?
<queqiao-> ⟨l​pg⟩ depends on what you consider painful
<queqiao-> ⟨S​paceFace545⟩ i'd say its different. definitly more realistic so I guess harder but it pays off and for me atleast it's quite fun
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<queqiao-> ⟨r​ocketman⟩ For me it hasn't been that much harder, rendezvous and planetary transfers can actually be easier. If one aspect made the game harder, it was the amount of lag around Jool
<queqiao-> ⟨O​sirin⟩ oh right
<queqiao-> ⟨O​sirin⟩ I forgot why I had uninstalled it that one time
<queqiao-> ⟨O​sirin⟩ *now I remember, it's because my game will bring my cpu temp up about 15 degrees c*
<queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ Well, what is the resulting temperature?
<queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ Well, what is the resulting temperature? That is not necessarily a problem. (edited)
<queqiao-> ⟨O​sirin⟩ about 95c.
<queqiao-> ⟨O​sirin⟩ to the point it auto-shutdowns my pc to make sure it isn't bricked.
<queqiao-> ⟨s​iimav⟩ Laptop?
<queqiao-> ⟨O​sirin⟩ laptop
<queqiao-> ⟨S​paceFace545⟩ dell?
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ raptop
<queqiao-> ⟨O​sirin⟩ asus.
<queqiao-> ⟨S​paceFace545⟩ oh
<queqiao-> ⟨O​sirin⟩ I don't get it.
<queqiao-> ⟨s​iimav⟩ Oof, not many laptops can take full CPU+GPU loads for prolonged periods of time
<queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ raptop laptop
<queqiao-> ⟨O​sirin⟩ indeed. I get about 5 hours of playtime max on my RP-1 install.
<queqiao-> ⟨O​sirin⟩ *sometimes it's only 13 minutes though*
<queqiao-> ⟨O​sirin⟩ *it happens*
<queqiao-> ⟨S​paceFace545⟩ I havent had any issues on mine
<queqiao-> ⟨s​iimav⟩ @egg single-thread-mode for Principia when? Would prevent laptops from melting.