04:51 <queqiao-> ⟨G​rowFlavor⟩ Identifying the Earth-Sun L4 point & getting a uniform >2000 day stable elliptical orbit around the 'stable equilibrium' L4 went smoothly for me, but I am struggling with Earth-Sun L2. I would be grateful for insights from anyone who has visited an unstable equilibrium point like L1, L2 or L3 region regarding both how to locate the actual L2 point more precisely & where burns are useful to man

07:44 <queqiao-> ⟨B​uilderbast⟩ How is it so far?

08:12 <queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ Fun but it's a lot

08:13 <queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ Expected no free time but not this badly 😂

08:13 <queqiao-> ⟨S​ir Mortimer⟩ You're still on discord, can't be that bad 😛

08:14 <queqiao-> ⟨B​uilderbast⟩ Haha yeah its tough, first year aerospace?

08:49 <queqiao-> ⟨G​rowFlavor⟩ thanks!...appears the initial Apogee I was exploring was a farther out from the L2 than I thought...looking at the individual WMAP gif frames in photoshop I see that its trajectory ranged from 1,383,000,000m around the time of insertion to around 1,561,000,000m on some of its trajectory around Earth Sun L2: https://i.imgur.com/QkSD1Th.png

08:49 <queqiao-> ⟨G​rowFlavor⟩ thanks!...appears the initial Apogee I was exploring was farther out from the L2 than I thought...looking at the individual WMAP gif frames in photoshop I see that its trajectory ranged from 1,383,000,000m around the time of insertion to around 1,561,000,000m on some of its trajectory around Earth Sun L2: https://i.imgur.com/QkSD1Th.png (edited)

08:52 <queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ Yes

10:39 <queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ Tbh it's not hard yet, just a lot

12:32 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #3125: Add a -= operator on trajectory iterators - https://git.io/JunAx

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13:58 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] Growflavor commented on issue #3124: Memory Leak during Flight Planning 1.12.2, Grothendieck - https://git.io/Jucm2

13:58 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] Growflavor edited a comment on issue #3124: Memory Leak during Flight Planning 1.12.2, Grothendieck - https://git.io/Jucm2

14:11 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] Growflavor edited a comment on issue #3064: possible steady memory increase potentially leading to KSP instability/slowness/unusual texture lighting/slow crash - https://git.io/JEnZn

14:49 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] Growflavor edited a comment on issue #3064: possible steady memory increase potentially leading to KSP instability/slowness/unusual texture lighting/slow crash - https://git.io/JEnZn

14:50 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] Growflavor edited a comment on issue #3064: possible steady memory increase potentially leading to KSP instability/slowness/unusual texture lighting/slow crash - https://git.io/JEnZn

14:53 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] Growflavor edited a comment on issue #3064: possible steady memory increase potentially leading to KSP instability/slowness/unusual texture lighting/slow crash - https://git.io/JEnZn

14:55 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] Growflavor edited a comment on issue #3124: Memory Leak during Flight Planning 1.12.2, Grothendieck - https://git.io/Jucm2

14:56 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] Growflavor edited a comment on issue #3124: Memory Leak during Flight Planning 1.12.2, Grothendieck - https://git.io/Jucm2

14:56 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] Growflavor edited a comment on issue #3124: Memory Leak during Flight Planning 1.12.2, Grothendieck - https://git.io/Jucm2

14:58 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] Growflavor edited a comment on issue #3124: Memory Leak during Flight Planning 1.12.2, Grothendieck - https://git.io/Jucm2

15:40 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] Growflavor edited a comment on issue #3124: Memory Leak during Flight Planning 1.12.2, Grothendieck - https://git.io/Jucm2

15:42 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] Growflavor edited a comment on issue #3124: Memory Leak during Flight Planning 1.12.2, Grothendieck - https://git.io/Jucm2

15:50 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #3125: Add a -= operator on trajectory iterators - https://git.io/JunAx

16:10 <queqiao-> ⟨B​uilderbast⟩ Yep, first quarter is pretty chill in difficulty

16:10 <queqiao-> ⟨B​uilderbast⟩ Were you also at the freshmen weekend?

16:24 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #3125: Add a -= operator on trajectory iterators - https://git.io/JunAx

16:24 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy pushed 2 commits to Entwurf [+0/-0/±6] https://git.io/JucX9

16:24 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy 0169ea1 - Add a -= operator on It3rators.

16:24 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy 7e44fca - Merge pull request #3125 from pleroy/Minus Add a -= operator on trajectory iterators

18:31 <queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ `Celestial-specific terminology has been added; Principia will now use the term perigee for a periapsis in Earth orbit, lunar orbit for an orbit about the moon, etc.` Periposeidon? 😉

18:32 <queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ Well you're welcome to define it yourself I suppose

18:33 <queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ I may consider it

18:33 <queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ I may consider it :caveman: (edited)

18:34 <raptop> periposeidon / apoposeidon would be useful for describing triton's orbit, I guess

18:35 <raptop> (ignoring the very low eccentricity)

18:35 <queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ Well, the issue is that it's insane to say 'periposeidon' instead of 'Neptune periapsis'

18:54 <queqiao-> ⟨l​pg⟩ but it gives us an excuse for slipping "apropos of apoposeidon" in a sentence

19:02 <raptop> oh, right, sanity

19:07 <queqiao-> ⟨P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ What sanity? "We're all mad here"

19:09 <queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ We're not insane, we are just noodling about

19:29 <raptop> (purple) noodling about

22:04 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] larryfast closed issue #3124: Memory Leak during Flight Planning 1.12.2, Grothendieck - https://git.io/JuYVk

22:04 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] larryfast commented on issue #3124: Memory Leak during Flight Planning 1.12.2, Grothendieck - https://git.io/JuCzP

22:08 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] larryfast commented on issue #3064: possible steady memory increase potentially leading to KSP instability/slowness/unusual texture lighting/slow crash - https://git.io/JuCg3

23:05 <queqiao-> ⟨e​xpanders are superior⟩ This bit makes no sense

23:05 <queqiao-> ⟨e​xpanders are superior⟩ This bot makes no sense (edited)

23:09 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] larryfast commented on issue #3064: possible steady memory increase potentially leading to KSP instability/slowness/unusual texture lighting/slow crash - https://git.io/JuCi0

23:09 <raptop> $ make sense

23:09 <raptop> make: *** No rule to make target 'sense'. Stop.

23:09 <raptop> I guess you're right

23:14 <queqiao-> ⟨e​xpanders are superior⟩ See what I mean.

23:18 <raptop> Anyway, what would you expect from a bridge to an IRC channel?

23:19 <queqiao-> ⟨s​iimav⟩ What's IRC?

23:21 <raptop> Internet Relay Chat, a chat protcol from the 1980s that runs on most-anything. One of the more notable servers is libera (lots of FLOSS stuff), though in this particular case it's connected to Esper (which also has the official(tm) KSP channel)

23:23 <queqiao-> ⟨§​κyℓαr ♀⟩ IRC is nice, IRC, XMPP, and Matrix are the most popular (not counting email) chat services in FOSS/FLOSS spaces

23:23 <queqiao-> ⟨§​κyℓαr ♀⟩ IRC is nice. IRC, XMPP, and Matrix are the most popular (not counting email) chat services in FOSS/FLOSS spaces (edited)

23:26 <raptop> Yeah, IRC isn't federated, but you can just run your own server and have other people connect

23:31 <queqiao-> ⟨l​pg⟩ good bot

23:52 <queqiao-> ⟨M​udkip909 | 𒀱 supporter⟩ https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480397772248580098/884949347861659648/unknown.png

23:53 <raptop> dense array