01:30 <queqiao-> ⟨P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ This may be a bad place to ask, but, hypothetically, how long could Earth's moon remain intact despite tidal drag if orbiting Venus rather than Earth? If at the same distance as it is to Earth, wouldn't the tidal drag of the slowly rotating planet be negligible?

01:33 <queqiao-> ⟨P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ This may be a bad place to ask, but, hypothetically, how long could Earth's moon remain intact despite tidal drag lowering the orbit if orbiting Venus rather than Earth? If at the same distance as it is to Earth, wouldn't the tidal drag of the slowly rotating planet be negligible? (edited)

01:45 <raptop> Despite their name, Love numbers hate you and want you to suffer

01:46 <raptop> (Also, it's probably worth BOTE'ing some angular momentum figures to see if the moon would spin Venus up enough)

02:45 <queqiao-> ⟨L​unarDust⟩ Guys if i leave a station/sattelite around a planet for a long time will the history of vessel slow the game down?

02:47 <queqiao-> ⟨l​pg⟩ it will make your save files larger, which will make some things (save/load in particular) slower

02:47 <queqiao-> ⟨L​unarDust⟩ What about scene switch

02:48 <queqiao-> ⟨l​pg⟩ I don't think that's affected, but not positive

05:52 <queqiao-> ⟨S​oviet Onion⟩ does principia support KSRSS?

07:11 <queqiao-> ⟨S​tonesmile⟩ KSP for some reason saves and loads on every scene change, so it will slow down scene changes

09:29 <queqiao-> ⟨D​amien⟩ the question is if SSRSS supports principia. Planet packs need to provide principia configs to work

09:29 <queqiao-> ⟨S​oviet Onion⟩ right, I knew i had worded that wrong

09:29 <queqiao-> ⟨S​oviet Onion⟩ does KSRSS support principia? (edited)

09:30 <queqiao-> ⟨S​oviet Onion⟩ well, now the question isn't appropriate for this channel, is it?

09:30 <queqiao-> ⟨D​amien⟩ although configs may only be required if the system is unstable. I'm not sure

09:30 <queqiao-> ⟨D​amien⟩ try it and let us know

09:30 <queqiao-> ⟨D​amien⟩ it may work

09:31 <queqiao-> ⟨S​oviet Onion⟩ okay

12:52 <queqiao-> ⟨O​sirin⟩ is it safe for principia to be added to an existing save that is pre-orbit

12:52 <queqiao-> ⟨S​oviet Onion⟩ Well, of nothing's in orbit, then I guess it's fine to add Principia

12:53 <queqiao-> ⟨S​oviet Onion⟩ Well, if nothing's in orbit, then I guess it's fine to add Principia (edited)

12:58 <queqiao-> ⟨O​sirin⟩ planets are in orbit though

12:58 <queqiao-> ⟨T​ori⟩ is a 3200 deltaV a good manuever for an early moon impactor?

12:59 <queqiao-> ⟨T​ori⟩ or am i supposed to measure how to launch and when to launch at DN-AN because i still dont know

13:03 <queqiao-> ⟨S​oviet Onion⟩ Principia changes some of the planet's orbits regardless

13:18 <queqiao-> ⟨D​amien⟩ yeah it's fine

13:18 <queqiao-> ⟨O​sirin⟩ ok cool, thank you

13:22 <queqiao-> ⟨S​oviet Onion⟩ Btw, KSRSS does work with Principia

13:31 <queqiao-> ⟨O​sirin⟩ Just test it

13:31 <queqiao-> ⟨O​sirin⟩ if you get apocolypse warnings then no

13:43 <queqiao-> ⟨Z​ombieZilla⟩ I'm pretty sure that was a statement, not a question

14:59 <queqiao-> ⟨S​oviet Onion⟩ yeah, that was a statement. No problems

14:59 <queqiao-> ⟨S​oviet Onion⟩ Yet

16:36 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] tomgi starred Principia - https://git.io/JgOgk

18:33 <queqiao-> ⟨D​0m1nu2⟩ Hey, is is normal that inclanation of satellite in geostationary orbit is higher and higher over time?

18:33 <queqiao-> ⟨D​0m1nu2⟩ https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480397772248580098/893204009387712572/unknown.png

18:33 <queqiao-> ⟨D​0m1nu2⟩ 130 day long history

18:36 <queqiao-> ⟨P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ Drift is expected, although some locations can reduce it.

18:36 <queqiao-> ⟨P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ Budget for about 52 m/s of delta-V for each year you plan to be operational, for station keeping

18:36 <queqiao-> ⟨P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geostationary_orbit#Orbital_stability>

18:40 <queqiao-> ⟨D​0m1nu2⟩ Oh, didn't know about that thanks! I'm not over Canbera so really close to unstable point, I'll consider getting over stable point

18:56 <queqiao-> ⟨B​utcher⟩ That looks pretty normal. It's the moon.

19:18 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #3130: Improve the parsing of time spans - https://git.io/JgsMq

19:18 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy edited pull request #3130: Improve the parsing of time spans - https://git.io/JgsMq

19:20 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] Pending. Build queued… - 

19:20 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] Pending. Building… - http://casanova.westeurope.cloudapp.azure.com:8080/job/Principia/5154/

19:45 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] Success. Build finished. - http://casanova.westeurope.cloudapp.azure.com:8080/job/Principia/5154/

20:09 <queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ Are there any known angular momentum bugs ?

20:12 <queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ My gemini capsule just kept spinning faster and faster after a RUD caused by physical timewarp

20:12 <queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ It spun up to atleast 40Hz without any parts attached to it

21:07 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy assigned issue #3037: Create a warning DLL for downloading the mod from the wrong place - https://git.io/Jnie9

21:09 <queqiao-> ⟨s​ichelgaita⟩ This has been reported once, and although we had plenty of data we were not able to understand what was going on. We have to hack our way around the stupidity of PhysX, and I guess that sometimes our hacks go wrong.

21:58 <queqiao-> ⟨B​utcher⟩ Physx definitely has some conservation of energy fails.

22:15 <raptop> I want to say that PHL or egg has some ranty bug commentary about how PhysX does euler angles and conservation of momentum completely wrong?

22:16 <queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/2519#issuecomment-627612478 yep XD

22:19 <raptop> Yeah, that

23:44 <queqiao-> ⟨(​ᴇxᴘᴇʀɪᴍᴇɴᴛᴀʟshells)⟩ PHL ≡ Pascal H. Leroy?

23:51 <raptop> Yes