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<queqiao-> ⟨i​nfinitepermutations⟩ rcd spin
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<queqiao-> ⟨S​paceFace545⟩ China Builds World’s Largest Fusion Power Plant Aimed to Tackle Climate Change
<queqiao-> ⟨§​κyℓαr ♀⟩ Just a really indirect big-bang drive
<queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ This is getting a lil #offtopic
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<_whitenotifier> [Principia] OnlyLightMatters starred Principia - https://git.io/JzXzG
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<queqiao-> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ Is there somewhere I can see when the transfer windows to the Moon are from the KSC?
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ Butcher has a nice KOS script for that
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ Butcher has a nice kOS script for that (edited)
<queqiao-> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ Is it public?
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ Its on his github
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ Cant remember which one i used
<queqiao-> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ Alright I'll check it out
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ Ryan also has one, which is the one im currently using
<queqiao-> ⟨C​had Lancer⟩ Would you say Ryan's is an improvement?
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ Ryan's stages once to fire up the engines and automatically timewarps to the right LAN
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ Nothing you cant add yourself to the script
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<queqiao-> ⟨B​utcher⟩ There aren't any windows as such for the moon. You can launch any time.
<queqiao-> ⟨Q​uadrupole⟩ There are optimal and sub-optimal windows though
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<queqiao-> ⟨e​xpanders are superior⟩ I could just aim and quick save and quick load until I get it right
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ Only pain and suffering is to be found, should you choose to go along that patth
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ Only pain and suffering is to be found, should you choose to go along that patt (edited)
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ Only pain and suffering is to be found, should you choose to go along that path (edited)
<queqiao-> ⟨e​xpanders are superior⟩ Here’s the link to Ryan’s script?
<queqiao-> ⟨e​xpanders are superior⟩ Where’s the link to Ryan’s script? (edited)
<queqiao-> ⟨e​xpanders are superior⟩ also where do you add it to the game. ill poke around in the folders in a few
<queqiao-> ⟨p​Edro⟩ just look for ryanc55 on github, in his kOS repository
<queqiao-> ⟨e​xpanders are superior⟩ will mj launch into target plane not work?
<queqiao-> ⟨l​pg⟩ it does not, no
<queqiao-> ⟨e​xpanders are superior⟩ good to know
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ where are you launching from
<queqiao-> ⟨l​pg⟩ easy enough to look up look up target's LAN and timewarp to that, and enter the target's inclination manually, so it's just a small inconvenience
<queqiao-> ⟨e​xpanders are superior⟩ I’ll try kOS
<queqiao-> ⟨l​pg⟩ if you were trying to launch into the plane of the moon, that wasn't going to work anyway
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ It works if you don’t launch from somewhere too far north
<queqiao-> ⟨e​xpanders are superior⟩ From the cape
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ That’s too far north
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ why does everyone keep using the cape…
<queqiao-> ⟨e​xpanders are superior⟩ I just want to figure out how to do lunar flyby/ impactor etc
<queqiao-> ⟨e​xpanders are superior⟩ It’s the default launch pad and I’m on my first play through. Also I’m American
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ precisely, it’s a terrible choice for a first playthrough
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ it’s much harder for anything involving th emoon
<queqiao-> ⟨e​xpanders are superior⟩ Little late now lol
<queqiao-> ⟨l​pg⟩ yes why _does_ everyone keep using the default site
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ or rather, why is it the default, and why is there nothing explaining the implications when you start an RP-1 game…
<queqiao-> ⟨e​xpanders are superior⟩ Hehe. I’m trying for moon boots on my first career then I’ll probably start over with configurable start and no X-Plane contracts.
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ or rather, why is it the default, and why is there nothing explaining the implications of that irreversible choice when you start an RP-1 game… (edited)
<queqiao-> ⟨l​pg⟩ well, there _are_ no implications without principia, and someone just starting is pretty much assumed not to be be _quite_ mad enough to plunge right in
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ that assumption seems to be quite wrong in practice…
<queqiao-> ⟨s​ichelgaita⟩ On second thought , let’s not go to Cape. ‘Tis a silly place
<queqiao-> ⟨e​xpanders are superior⟩ So how should I go about doing this again
<queqiao-> ⟨s​ichelgaita⟩ On second thought , let’s not go to Cape. ‘Tis a silly place. (edited)
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ iirc Kourou and Satish Dhawan Space Centre both work
<queqiao-> ⟨l​pg⟩ using those kOS scripts you've been pointed to
<queqiao-> ⟨e​xpanders are superior⟩ thank you
<queqiao-> ⟨l​pg⟩ there's various ways to eyeball it, but unless you have something against kOS, it's really the easier option
<queqiao-> ⟨e​xpanders are superior⟩ Trying now.
<queqiao-> ⟨e​xpanders are superior⟩ I’ll check out a few raiz videos too.
<raptop> troll suggestion: make the default RP-1 launch site Kapustin Yar
<raptop> (This has historic justificaiton)
<queqiao-> ⟨e​xpanders are superior⟩ where is the cpu for kOS?
<queqiao-> ⟨e​xpanders are superior⟩ i think i might be blind
<queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ kOS discussion is that way: -> #script-automation
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ I guess it might make sense for Principia to (perhaps via some MM trickery) check for the presence of RP-1 and bring up a pop-up warning of the consequences of launch site choices once you get to lunar things
<queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ This comes after the repo zip warning right? 😛
* raptop wonders if there's a 1.12.2 version of kRPC
<queqiao-> ⟨l​pg⟩ sadly such a pop-up would be of no help at all to RO players who don't install KSCSwitcher in the first place
<queqiao-> ⟨l​pg⟩ I suppose it matters less if it's not a career
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ yeah if it’s not a career, when you run into the issue and get told to move to Kourou, you just move there, it’s not a problem
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ it’s much harder for anything involving the moon (edited)
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ The commitment with consequences that are only visible a while into the game is the issue here
<queqiao-> ⟨l​pg⟩ it's not exactly a career wrecker. the only obstacle to changing site mid-career is VAB build rate, and that can be fixed with a bit of cheated money
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ I guess the main question is how hard it would be to bring up such a warning—honestly it would probably be less work than the repo zip thing :-p
<queqiao-> ⟨s​iimav⟩ Here's some old janky code for getting the used KSC:
<queqiao-> ⟨s​iimav⟩ Cape is called that:
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ I wouldn’t even need that, just to check its latitude, which I think might be doable via stock APIs
<raptop> Obviously we should alter the moon's inclinatino to fix this
<raptop> (In real life also)