00:17 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] harveyt starred Principia - https://git.io/J1EnH

00:47 <queqiao-_> ⟨e​gg⟩ looks like most of it isn’t getting downsampled, there’s a little bit of downsampled trajectory at the beginning and then hundreds of thousands of points at steps of 10 s.

01:00 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin commented on issue #3203: Unexpected .sfs growth with #3200 test build - https://git.io/J1E0E

04:00 <queqiao-_> ⟨c​offeequaffer⟩ final static UI element fix update: i spent ~30 mins trying to get my usual janky 1957-rocket-tech moon impactor to a precise TLI using the flight planner. no slowdowns / memory growth / texture weirdness. before the fix this was a 100% repro case for me, usually within 10 minutes of seat time

15:28 <queqiao-_> ⟨k​ingzlo⟩ every time i install principia and load a save my game crashes

15:36 <queqiao-_> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ Ideally you want to load a save with either no vessels or debris already in orbit or make an entirely new save

15:36 <queqiao-_> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ If it's a non principia save

15:36 <queqiao-_> ⟨k​ingzlo⟩ ooh

15:37 <queqiao-_> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ Does creating a new save also induce a crash?

15:38 <queqiao-_> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ If that's the case you might have installed incorrectly

15:38 <queqiao-_> ⟨e​gg⟩ Have you considered reading the FAQ, which will tell you where you can find logs which will tell you what the crash is about?

15:39 <queqiao-_> ⟨e​gg⟩ @Zeusbeer the no-vessels thing isn’t about crashes, it’s about vessels ending up in unexpected places (especially ones on interplanetary trajectories)

15:39 <queqiao-_> ⟨e​gg⟩ @kingzlo Have you considered reading the FAQ, which will tell you where you can find logs which will tell you what the crash is about? (edited)

15:41 <queqiao-_> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ But I would assume that having 300 existing vessels would be very hard on the computer to load

15:46 <queqiao-_> ⟨e​gg⟩ I would avoid assumptions about the way Principia works. Having lots of vessels in orbit will quickly degrade performance down the line, of course, but isn’t an intrinsic problem, and in any case should not lead to a crash

15:50 <queqiao-_> ⟨B​utcher⟩ I'm still proud that I managed to crash principia with a ship. 🙂

15:52 <queqiao-_> ⟨e​gg⟩ this one? https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/2811

15:59 <queqiao-_> ⟨k​ingzlo⟩ no, it jsut crashes when i load a save

16:00 <queqiao-_> ⟨k​ingzlo⟩ oh ok i will, thanks for the help

16:04 <queqiao-_> ⟨B​utcher⟩ Oui, le

16:04 <queqiao-_> ⟨B​utcher⟩ Oui, l'oeuf (edited)

18:28 <queqiao-_> ⟨P​umpkinaxe⟩ Juste l'œuf.

20:00 <queqiao-_> ⟨l​pg⟩ As I proceed to get my save back to a manageable size by visiting vessel and clearing history via Hack Gravity, a thought occurs to me: why is it that Hack Gravity doesn't work on the selected vessel in the Tracking Station? Principia's own UI follows the selected vessel, even the flight planner more or less works

20:04 <queqiao-_> ⟨e​gg⟩ because it is a Hack, it’s really about escaping Principia from a physics standpoint

20:05 <queqiao-_> ⟨e​gg⟩ it’s handled with as part of the unmanageability reasons, which don’t come into play unless you have an unpacked vessel

20:11 <raptop> . o O (become ungovernable, but for spacecraft?)

23:01 <queqiao-_> ⟨e​gg⟩ @lpg can you give us a journal wherein you load one of those big saves and warp for a while?

23:12 <queqiao-_> ⟨l​pg⟩ sure. won't be for a few hours