04:21 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] Robertrover811 starred Principia - https://git.io/J1eoZ

13:10 <queqiao-> ⟨Q​uadrupole⟩ Why is the first point of Aries in Principia not the vernal equinox? Apparently this makes the moon's LAN off by 270 degrees.

14:05 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] Joelthefrog1 starred Principia - https://git.io/J1JmM

14:45 <queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ The first point of aries/origin of right ascension/point ♈︎ *is* the vernal equinox of J2000.

14:45 <queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ on the other hand, the ♈︎ marker on the navball is that only if the reference plane is the Earth’s equator.

14:45 <queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩

14:45 <queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ If you are asking about in-game coordinates, these depend on how the universe is currently tilted anyway (i.e. on where the active vessel is).

14:49 <queqiao-> ⟨Q​uadrupole⟩ So Imy active vessel is on launch pad, and I checked from MJ that the moon's LAN is around 270 degrees, which should be near zero since the lunar plane is near the ecliptic.

14:49 <queqiao-> ⟨Q​uadrupole⟩ So my active vessel is on launch pad, and I checked from MJ that the moon's LAN is around 270 degrees, which should be near zero since the lunar plane is near the ecliptic. (edited)

14:49 <queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ no it should not.

14:50 <queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ these are in-game coordinates; they are essentially arbitrary, and they change depending on where your vessel is.

14:51 <queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ (I suspect the explanation in this particular case, where everyone agrees up to right angles, is the different axis conventions between the various bits of KSP and Principia; but there is no way for those readouts to work well in general anyway)

14:53 <queqiao-> ⟨Q​uadrupole⟩ KSP being KSP. Got it. Just need to substract 270 in my script.

14:54 <queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ (we could probably mess with things in some of the looking-glasses to make this work; but this will break down promptly as soon as you leave the vicinity of earth, so it is not clear that it is worth the effort.)

14:55 <queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ and touching the looking-glasses is, of course, :rabbit_hole:

17:45 <_whitenotifier> [Principia] mse63 commented on issue #3197: Game Crashes When Editing a Maneuver - https://git.io/J1UZe

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