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⟨Denwey⟩ Why exactly is a high latitude launch site bad?
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⟨Paculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ It means you can't just launch into the plane of the moon
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They're fine for some orbits, but bad for others. The most notable case is that you have to do off-plane intercepts of the Moon
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⟨Denwey⟩ Well it's not as if I hadn't done lots of inclination matching for my minmus mining station in stock 😛
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⟨Denwey⟩ Unless?
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⟨Paculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ Only Kourou and Sriharikota allow launching into the plane of the moon at any time
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⟨Paculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ Stock has an equitorial launch site
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⟨Denwey⟩ Oh I get it, *into* the orbit, during launch
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⟨Paculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ The difference between equatorial and Minmus is less than the difference between most RSS launch sites and the moon
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⟨Paculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ Exactly; you have to time it right
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⟨Paculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ Butcher's scripts can do that for you
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⟨Vlood⟩ yeah, that's only... 1 or 2 orders of magnitude easier than the RSS equivalent?
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Minmus offplane intercepts of KSC can practically be eyeballed >_>
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⟨Paculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ Yes, and more easily than lunar fly-bys from Kourou can be eyeballed
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⟨Al2Me6⟩ There is a way to do Minmus intercepts _other than_ eyeballing it?
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⟨Paculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ I normally made a maneuver for that, except when the tracking station would not allow that
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⟨lpg⟩ a minmus intercept is 3 clicks in MJ
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⟨Vlood⟩ jokes on you, i close my eyes when doing that
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Does MJ still stare into your soul with its robotic eye?
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⟨Vlood⟩ i am but a flesh automaton, driven by Mechjeb's will
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And then Vlood was a p-zombie
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⟨Paculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ At least the p-zombie passes the Turing test
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oof
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⟨Quadrupole⟩ That's actually quite similar to Pioneer 11's trajectory.
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⟨lpg⟩ it's basically the same thing with a year of offset
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⟨rocketman⟩ incredible
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⟨🌈Exilate⟩ boing
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⟨theeo⟩ when the trajectory around the gas giant tells you to take the L 😩
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⟨!Kerbinator (free to ping me)!⟩ hmmm
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⟨lpg⟩ A problem I've run into several times lately: short, large-dv burns in the binormal direction (zeroing out inclination at a high Ap), MJ's "point at node" can't quite keep up as the maneuver vector rotates, so I end up with a somewhat large error on the burn. The obvious solution is to use Inertially Fixed so the vector won't rotate, but then coming up with an "equivalent" maneuver (with the right amo
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