raptop changed the topic of #KSPOfficial to: Kerbal Space Program official channel | versions: KSP1 1.12.3 http://bit.ly/ksp112update | Rules: http://tinyurl.com/KSP-Rules | "modcall" to call ops | Δv maps: https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.png https://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png | Lunar eclipse May 16 https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/LEplot/LEplot2001/LE2022May16T.pdf | EHT announcement! https://iopscience.iop.org/journal/2041-8205
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<raptop> !mission add You do not secure the doors on your ro-ro ferry.
<LunchBot> Added mission: You do not secure the doors on your ro-ro ferry.
<raptop> !outcome add Your rockets' flight certificates are revoked.
<LunchBot> Added outcome: Your rockets' flight certificates are revoked.
<darsie> rocket's?
<darsie> Ohh, are.
<packbart> I use free flight certificates from LetsLaunch
<raptop> Heh
* raptop wonders if there's some silliness possible with a mission or outcome about encrypting rockets
<darsie> !outcome add Wannacry encrypts your rocket access codes.
<LunchBot> Added outcome: Wannacry encrypts your rocket access codes.
<raptop> !outcome add Your guidance computer restarts mid-flight to install updates.
<LunchBot> Added outcome: Your guidance computer restarts mid-flight to install updates.
<packbart> It was a scheduled fleet-wide update. Didn't you read the memo?
<packbart> "No flights shall take place while R&D unlocks new tech nodes and updates control software."
<raptop> No launches scheduled during patch Tuesday
<packbart> No maneuvers on weekends
<packbart> Kerbals only number their days and years. They don't even count months
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<JVFoxy> lol.. ok I know I'm late to things but.. just watching the docking video and didn't realize till now Jeb was actually on the Starliner ship
<JVFoxy> huh.. it was kept secret up till docking from what I was reading on an article.. although, wondering how many people predicted it anyways?
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<funkenstein> ;mission
<LunchBot> You attempt to send a RTG through the post. You have made Dres real.
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<funkenstein> ;mission
<LunchBot> Your otters are lydian augmented. gravitation tides rip your body apart.
* raptop blinks
<funkenstein> what lol
<funkenstein> ;mission add Jeb elects to make a rapid unauthorised exit of the ISS.
<LunchBot> Added mission: Jeb elects to make a rapid unauthorised exit of the ISS.
<funkenstein> ;outcome add this lays waste to everything not in sight.
<LunchBot> Added outcome: this lays waste to everything not in sight.
* raptop is still confused by the otters, so have some videos https://www.youtube.com/c/KOTARO_OTTER/videos
<funkenstein> raptop the otters you posted are the reason i decided otters remind me of lydian augmented
<raptop> hmm
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<JVFoxy> geez.. those poor otters. :\
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<funkenstein> I had no attachment point that I could use on the bottom of my landing stage, so I decided to launch it stored upside-down in the fairing, to then switch the control point to normal and pilot it normally. does this work or am I wasting time
<Althego> i would put a cubic octagonal strut to the bottom, and there you go, you have your attachment point
<Althego> you can of course do the upside down thing
<funkenstein> rather, it has four outer engines and tanks and one inner one, the four offset the weight of the one and therefore tthe middle section is far higher than the surrounding four and is not a reasonable attachment oint
<funkenstein> sweet
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<funkenstein> It worked wonderfully
<funkenstein> ;mission add You forgo struts in an effort to cut down on the cost of your vessel.
<LunchBot> Added mission: You forgo struts in an effort to cut down on the cost of your vessel.
<funkenstein> ;outcome add This proves disastrous for your kerbals around Eve.
<LunchBot> Added outcome: This proves disastrous for your kerbals around Eve.
<funkenstein> 2.4 twr is plenty to escape duna, right
<funkenstein> nevermind what am I even saying
<funkenstein> ;mission
<LunchBot> You decide to bring a 90 Kerbal base to Laythe. It turns out that Quantium was involved the entire time, and everything that could go possibly go wrong did, but it all cancelled out and the mission was a success.
<funkenstein> ;mission
<LunchBot> You resolve to rescue all the kerbals you've stranded. You set a new record for minimising delta-v use.
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<Mat2ch> !mission
<LunchBot> Poor punctuation places pronounced pressure on particular pernicious (yet patient) prattle-policing personages. Supernovy explodes, emitting all kinds of deadly radiation.
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<taniwha> 2.4 TWR is enough to escape even a black hole
<taniwha> 2.4 TMR, on the other hand, probably isn't enough to get you off duna
<funkenstein> haha
<funkenstein> whichever KSP means by TWR
<Pinkbeast> I'm torn between saying you can't have 2.4 TMR because it isn't dimensionless and yes we all say TWR when we mean T(W asl on Kerbin)R
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<packbart> local TWR reaches ridiculous numbers in space as displayed by Kerbal Engineer
<Pinkbeast> I switched KER over to surface TWR since it's usually a more interesting number
<funkenstein> lol when your twr reads 7.blank
<funkenstein> Does anyone else here play grand strategy games
<funkenstein> ;mission
<LunchBot> You attach a retroencabulator to your payload. This will be fixed in the next version.
<funkenstein> ;mission
<LunchBot> You hire Rube Goldberg to make your next rocket. You see what a geon looks like from the inside.
<Althego> In theoretical general relativity, a geon is a nonsingular electromagnetic or gravitational wave which is held together in a confined region by the gravitational attraction of its own field energy. They were first investigated theoretically in 1955 by J. A. Wheeler, who coined the term as a contraction of "gravitational electromagnetic entity".[1]
<funkenstein> ;mission
<LunchBot> You try to build a stealth battlecruiser. Why? For the glory of science of course!
<funkenstein> remarkably coherent.
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<funkenstein> ;mission
<LunchBot> You decide to go have lunch, leaving MechJeb to execute your maneuver burns unsupervised. This is fine.
<UmbralRaptop> 🐕🔥 intended, but it might work out
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* raptop likes TMR (implicitly N/kg)
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<darsie> AKA acceleration
<darsie> Can be expressed in g.
<darsie> hmm
<darsie> kinda
<raptop> I mean, yeah, divide by 9.80665
<Althego> hehe i didnt notice there was a kerbal on the starliner
<Althego> only bow in the scott video
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<funkenstein> ;mission
<LunchBot> You try to capitalise your capacity of flux capacitors. You are caught playing KSP at work for the fourth time and fired on the spot.
<funkenstein> ;outcome add You are caught playing KSP at work and promoted on the spot!
<LunchBot> Added outcome: You are caught playing KSP at work and promoted on the spot!
<funkenstein> ;mission add You are smacked on the bottom by a sassy asteroid
<LunchBot> Added mission: You are smacked on the bottom by a sassy asteroid
<taniwha> that feels much more like an outcome than a mission
<funkenstein> _-_
<funkenstein> ;outcome add This proves disastrous for you and the population of Dres
<LunchBot> Added outcome: This proves disastrous for you and the population of Dres
<taniwha> my rule of thumb is: missions: you do something. outcomes: something happens (maybe to you)
<taniwha> that would definitely be an outcome :)
<funkenstein> Yes, but sometimes things just happen to you, one after the other. Like a...series of unfortunate events.
<taniwha> a series of outcomes
<taniwha> basically, mission: in your control. outcome: not in your control
<taniwha> willful vs unwillful
<taniwha> it would help greatly if the bot had some actual context
<taniwha> previous outcomes selecting possibilities for subsequent missions
<taniwha> one thing to consider is the Apollo 13 mission ended the moment the O2 tank exploded
<taniwha> after that it was a series of "you attempt to get home" and various outcomes (with the eventual outcome of getting home)
<taniwha> rbh, I blame the bot
<raptop> It's a silly feature that just has been ported across multiple bots because it makes people laugh
<funkenstein> ;mission
<LunchBot> Your instruments blow up on the pad. And that's terrible.
<funkenstein> I think it could be used for writing prompts as well
<taniwha> it's good when the missions work as missions out outcomes work as outcomes. Mixing them up just makes for double outcomes like that
<funkenstein> ;outcome taniwha
<LunchBot> Taniwha deletes your recently added ;mission due to your bad grammar.
<funkenstein> ;mission taniwha
<LunchBot> Here comes a taniwha!
<taniwha> (or double missions, but I haven't seen too many outcomes that should be missions)
<raptop> hm
<raptop> !mission raptop
<LunchBot> Following UmbralRaptop's advice, you switch from CSV to FITS for storing your tabular data.
<raptop> !outcome raptop
<LunchBot> No outcome found matching "raptop".
* raptop vanishes in a cloud of 0s and 1s
* Pinkbeast inspects the cloud carefully
<taniwha> no argument that it can be good for inspiration, nor that it can be quite funny, but I find that scrambled missions breaks the spell
<taniwha> all the best combos have been "you do something" "something happens", regardless of absurdity (though the more absurd, the better, in general)
<taniwha> of course, that's my opinion (not worth much), but at least you'll understand where I'm comeing from when I pipe up about these things
<taniwha> (and that "here comes a taniwha" should be an outcome :P )
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