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<Althego>
kikkerikii
<Althego>
nirds
<darsie>
.
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<kubi>
so, where is my ksp2?
<UmbralRaptor>
You just delayed it another month
<Mat2ch>
kubi: always next year.
<darsie>
UmbralRaptor: Is it early 2023 + 1 month, now?
<raptop>
darsie: correct
<raptop>
[please note: I am not a TakeTwo employee, and my comments here are for entertainment purposes only]
<darsie>
:)
<Izaya>
it is, however, that question has been asked 116 times and therefore you need to wait until early 2023 + 116 months
<darsie>
116 times after the early 2023 announcement?
<Izaya>
(the number 116 obtained by `cd /mnt/znc/esper/#kspofficial; grep -i ksp2 * | wc -l`, which is obviously ideal methodology)
<darsie>
kubi: It's in the future.
<Izaya>
116 times minus however long it's been pushed back so far
<Izaya>
s/times/months/
<darsie>
ksp2 is short for konspiracy2.
<Althego>
or kerbals steal pizza
<darsie>
One manufacturer could be kalled Kerbal Space Parts.
<darsie>
That was a genuine typo and I chose not to fix it.
<darsie>
Hehe, they could put a flat planet in KSP2 :)).
<Althego>
hehe
<Althego>
falt that you normally dont see it, just outside of the plane of the planets
<darsie>
Will content created with KSP2 be owned by TakeTwo, Private Division, Squad, etc?
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<SporkWitch>
no way to know until they publish the EULA
<minas_tirith>
darsie, hi uwu
<SporkWitch>
Even then, in the US at least, I'm pretty sure fair use for making things like machinima out of it would supersede it. Regardless, no dev sues individuals for stuff like that, it's terrible PR
<SporkWitch>
(what couple have were rightly eviscerated on the public stage)
<minas_tirith>
What is machinima
<SporkWitch>
minas_tirith: one of the original examples would be the "Red vs Blue" series using Halo 2
<minas_tirith>
I haven't played halo. but I looked up the definition.
<minas_tirith>
I have encountered this before as gmod funny videos
<SporkWitch>
it's making original content using video games as the animation tool. Another really good example is "Clear Skies" set in the EVE Online universe, using a mix of Gary's Mod and EVE Online (the third in the series, the EVE devs even gave them access to their official tools they use to make the official trailers)
<minas_tirith>
SporkWitch, do you watch gmod animations
<SporkWitch>
not generally; i don't seek this stuff out, i've just come across a couple gems while looking for other stuff relating to what it happened to use
<SporkWitch>
found clear skies because i was looking up something EVE related. Found that KSP one because i was looking up something KSP related and stumbled on it
<minas_tirith>
SporkWitch, I am curious if people make this stuff out of Oblivion
<SporkWitch>
search "elder scrolls oblivion machinima"; i'm sure someone has
<darsie>
hi minas_tirith
<minas_tirith>
darsie, hi yes
<darsie>
Yes, you'll marry me?
<SporkWitch>
oi, why you movin' in on my girl?
<darsie>
She said yes to me.
<SporkWitch>
you tricked her!
<minas_tirith>
darsie, I accept you for my wife
<darsie>
I' male.
<minas_tirith>
SporkWitch, shes mine now
<darsie>
m
<minas_tirith>
darsie, ok
<minas_tirith>
I take you as my husband
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<SporkWitch>
i relinquish my claim
<minas_tirith>
I don't mind another husband
<SporkWitch>
gettin' your harem started? lol
<darsie>
Will you still need me, will you still feed me, when I'm 64?
<minas_tirith>
There can never be too much
<minas_tirith>
darsie, I have enough for both and more
<darsie>
I'm 1.6 now.
* minas_tirith
semantically versions darsie
<darsie>
SporkWitch: Are you sure she's a girl?
<minas_tirith>
Yeah why did you think I am a girl
<darsie>
idk
<SporkWitch>
no real way to guess with minas, but Darsie is typically a woman's name in english-speaking countries.
<darsie>
Darsie is my boy scout nick. It is derived from Hindi darjee for tailor and Darsie is a male tailor bird in the Rikki Tikki Tavi tale of the "Jungle Book" by Rudyard Kipling. http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~mongoose/rtt.html
<minas_tirith>
SporkWitch, I am a guy
<SporkWitch>
neat! no offense was intended, was simply pointing out why i'd always assumed you were female lol. Heck, I remember 30 years ago my mother's friend she would get to babysit sometimes was named Darcy lol
<minas_tirith>
I am not darsie
<SporkWitch>
i couldn't say why my brain leaned more feminine than masculine, it'd be pure guesswork, but possibly because my IRC client selected pink for your name, and the name itself is pretty neutral
<darsie>
Did you mean "I am not, darsie."?
<SporkWitch>
(that last is re: minas)\
<minas_tirith>
SporkWitch, my initial guess for you would be female. Witches are often female.
<SporkWitch>
typically; it would be a very reasonable assumptionn
<darsie>
In German spoons are male and forks are female. (Knives are neutral.)
<darsie>
Göffel are male.
<SporkWitch>
more interesting is that you have der monde and die sonne; most mythologies it's the other way around, except norse, and thus the gendering german still uses today
<darsie>
mhm
<darsie>
Der Mond, die Sonne.
<SporkWitch>
entschuldigung
<darsie>
ok :)
<minas_tirith>
Are you both german
<darsie>
I'm Austrian.
<minas_tirith>
darsie, yeah same region
<SporkWitch>
nein; ich gewohnt da für 3 jarhe
<minas_tirith>
SporkWitch, does norse have female sun
<SporkWitch>
minas_tirith: inasmuch as it has a story for it, yes
<SporkWitch>
norse is often misrepresented, especially in english. it doesn't actually have gods, since it's a form of ancestor worship
<SporkWitch>
the Aesir (often misnamed the "norse gods") are literally just "the elder kin"
<minas_tirith>
I see
<minas_tirith>
I don't know anything about norse
<minas_tirith>
Do you follow norse?
<SporkWitch>
it's really cool stuff; 99% of movies and film butcher it
<minas_tirith>
TV is a different issue
<SporkWitch>
i did at one point; i've been an agnostic atheist for a couple decades now lol
<minas_tirith>
Its just meant for entertainment
<SporkWitch>
naw, even the supposedly "accurate" stuff is REALLY bad *glares at HISTORY CHANNEL's "vikings" series*
<minas_tirith>
Just see any time tv depicts "middle east" or "china" and so on
<minas_tirith>
Was vikings meant to be historically accurate?
<SporkWitch>
dunno, I thought Kingdom of Heaven did a fairly decent job of portraying that era, on both sides
<SporkWitch>
minas_tirith: i don't care what it was supposed to be, it was on THE HISTORY CHANNEL. Like "Discovery" or "The Learning Channel." These are supposed to be channels that educate, not just make things up.
<SporkWitch>
Don't even get me started on History channel doing that Ancient Aliens nonsense
<minas_tirith>
History channel is Redneck channel
<minas_tirith>
TV serials will always be dramatized
<minas_tirith>
One shouldn't expect the level of accuracy of a textbook from a tv serial or movie
<minas_tirith>
SporkWitch, and also depends on the country that made the serial and the national mythology they built up for themselves
<SporkWitch>
one shouldn't expect accuracy from textbooks, either, these days...
* SporkWitch
screams at his bank
<SporkWitch>
paycheck just sitting there pending and not usable! I"VE BEEN OUT OF CIGARETTES FOR FIVE DAYS
<minas_tirith>
Textbooks are better
<minas_tirith>
But we might have to look at academic papers and stuff
<minas_tirith>
A lot of textbooks also have the national bias problem
<SporkWitch>
academic papers are probably the worst; see the Sokel and Sokel Squared hoaxes (both set out to prove how broken the peer review process is by submitting obvious garbage and getting it passed)
<minas_tirith>
SporkWitch, the thing with academic papers is I expect it one place at least that might try to minimize nationalist bias
<SporkWitch>
minas_tirith: that was one of the fun things about the Sokel Squared one. One of the papers they got published? Literally an excerpt from a certain failed artist about his "struggle," they just replaced uses of "jew" with "white men" and submitted it to a feminist journal
<SporkWitch>
i trust you understand the euphemisms i just used
<minas_tirith>
Mein Kampf or not is irrelevant. There are some journals who just blindly dump paers, some of them ask you lots of money for it. Its a business. Nobody serious trusts those places blindly.
<minas_tirith>
History is a really funny subject. Nationalistic biases can be so funny that two countries can present the same set of events in completely opposite manners.
<SporkWitch>
this is a systemic thing in certain "fields" heh; they didn't just pick random "publish anything" journals, but rather targeted leading ones in the field to prove that as long as you made the right party-aligned noises, it'll get through no matter how evil
<Pinkbeast>
This seems perhaps quite tenuously linked to KSP
<minas_tirith>
No serious journal would just publish a mein kampf with word substitutions. Even some of the low effort ones do automatic plagiarism checks.
<SporkWitch>
minas_tirith: that was part of the point of it: there is no such thing as a serious "feminist" journal lol
<SporkWitch>
it really all just goes back to marxist nonsense, reframed in terms other than rich-vs-poor
<SporkWitch>
how did we end up on this from kerbals? lol
<minas_tirith>
Marxism is just an economic system
<SporkWitch>
it's a lot more than that, it's functionally a religion, and it tends to kill people when they try to implement it, heh
<minas_tirith>
Generally only really fucking retarded people usually modern conservatards try to link it to some grand narrative
<SporkWitch>
who said anythng about a grand narrative? merely pointing out the fact of what the ideologies are rooted in and the tactics they use. No grand conspiracy or anything like that, just lots of bad ideas with similar roots
<SporkWitch>
You seem to be getting a bit heated, however, so perhaps a topic change is in order
<minas_tirith>
Some people are just completely fucked in the head and see "marxism" everywhere from their dogs poop to their neighbours car.
<Mat2ch>
Transporter 5 mission starts in 22 minutes
<minas_tirith>
Don't pay those idiots any attention
<minas_tirith>
Define cultural marxism in your own words
<minas_tirith>
If you can't you were just duped by one of these retards
<minas_tirith>
There is no such thing as cultural marxism
<minas_tirith>
Imagine someone trying to claim something like "cultural capitalism" and saying all of sociology is "cultural capitalism". Completely fucking bonkers.
<minas_tirith>
These are just economic systems
<minas_tirith>
Not some grand theory of the universe
<Althego>
Mat2ch: i forgot about the launch
<Althego>
minas_tirith: no politics
<Althego>
heh i cant read back everything
<minas_tirith>
Althego, I didn't bring it up
<minas_tirith>
SporkWitch, its telling you couldn't define whatever this nebulous "cultural marxism" is. Just put the question back to whoever taught you this crap, you'll find silence too.
<Mat2ch>
Transport 5 mission is on hold
<Althego>
yes, stream start moved peko
* raptop
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<Althego>
wall of text, but there was some politics i think
<raptop>
Yeah, there seems to have been
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<Guest81318>
hi
<raptop>
lo
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<SporkWitch>
so this looks like it'll be kind of neat. Only just started it, but I'm thinking it'll probably be something related to the rotational speed of the earth being lower than 1000 MPH
<Pinkbeast>
Nah, that's a drainpipe with delusions of grandeur
<SporkWitch>
as long as the pilot's an Ork, it'll probably work
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<Althego>
lol
<SporkWitch>
one of the KSP2 devs compared kerbals to 20k Orks. She's absolutely right, it explains why this stuff flies! lol
<SporkWitch>
*40k
<Althego>
hehe
<raptop>
yep
<Althego>
wooden winged rocket
<Althego>
luxury item hand crafted to your needs
<SporkWitch>
*john hammond voice* spared no expense
<Althego>
hehe
<Althego>
except for the wages of the sysadmin
<SporkWitch>
naw, i've known people like that character. total deadbeat, ensured job security by making things confusing and inefficient on purpose so no one else would be able to figure it out
<SporkWitch>
Went to uni with a guy that got hired at nasa basically because he hit a dozen special class boxes (dude had serious mental and physical issues), and he BRAGGED about how he did no real work, goofed off all day, and used nasa's network to pirate movies...
<Althego>
relight coming up
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<Guest38495>
Is there a mode
<Guest38495>
is there a mod that can stream flight data so another application can use it?