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<raptop>
I'm going to assume that a cat tried to join the channel
<Pinkbeast>
meow
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Hello, what is this?
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<SporkWitch>
naw, just a distracted discord bot; we actually know how to run stuff on IRC, which is why discord STILL allows you to put non-ASCII characters in names that draw lines all over a full 2560x1440 screen to make other people's messages unreadable
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<Althego>
also where is my 7k series amd with vache?
<Althego>
vcache
<Althego>
that is probably february too
<SporkWitch>
i am hearing good things about the next gen radeons, but i still just don't trust their drivers, especially on linux
<Althego>
hehe
<Althego>
i never had a great experience with nvidia drivers under linux either
<umaxtu>
fglrx was even worse
<umaxtu>
from what I've heard, AMD's linux drivers are awesome these days
<Althego>
in return the nvidia adapter cable catches fire
<FLHerne>
SporkWitch: the AMD drivers have been great on Linux for at least 5 years now
<FLHerne>
unless you need compute, anyway
<FLHerne>
or raytracing :p
<Althego>
raytracing in games is still not really ready
<SporkWitch>
i've never had issues with the proprietary nvidia binaries since around the GTX260 era. That was when I made the switch to pure nvidia, because the Radeon X1800XT was a 600 dollar card at the time, with drivers so bad that some of the most popular games at the time (such as PlanetSide) caused hard crashes (as in not just CTD, but literally "disconnect power, everything's dead").
<FLHerne>
that's a very long way back
<FLHerne>
In the last few years Nvidia blob has been a total nuisance if you have Wayland, or a machine with multiple GPUs that aren't all Nvidia (like many laptops)
<FLHerne>
or like to run the latest kernel
<SporkWitch>
i've seen nothing to indicate it's improved enough to be worth switching back. With the Ryzen / Threadripper CPUs and associated GPUs, AMD's finally pulled their proverbial head out of their butt and are putting out good hardware again after their misguided APU obsession, but I still just haven't seen anything to make me trust their drivers.
<SporkWitch>
honestly, weyland has always been hell for me in itself, so i just don't use it lol
<SporkWitch>
that said, i've been forced to run windows for the time being because of a couple games i just cannot get behaving in linux. I'll need to upgrade my PSU if I want to stick my GTX1060 back in as a second card for pass-through, though I'm not sure it'll be enough, because before installing Windows as the host OS, I was trying to get it working in a VM and it feels like MS did some sabotage to
<SporkWitch>
ensure windows VMs are totally unusable unless using a windows host and hyper-v; literally just sitting at the desktop was a slideshow, with a Ryzen 9 3950x (half the cores assigned to VM) and 64GB of RAM assigned.
<FLHerne>
I mean, since the X1800 days it's not "improved"
<FLHerne>
the current, open-source, driver stack didn't *exist* then
<FLHerne>
at least in any usable form
<FLHerne>
fglrx didn't evolve into anything, it just became obsolete and eventually died
<SporkWitch>
everything i've ever heard about the open source drivers is that they're than AMD's proprietary ones, but not by much
<SporkWitch>
*better than AMD's
<FLHerne>
I don't know where you've heard that
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<umaxtu>
secure boot can also be a pain with nvidia drivers
<FLHerne>
I've not seen any comments like that since ~2016 even if I disagreed with them
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