raptop changed the topic of #KSPOfficial to: Kerbal Space Program official channel | Rules: http://tinyurl.com/KSP-Rules | Δv maps: https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.png https://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png | KSP 2 Early Access Feb 24 https://tinyurl.com/ksp2earlyaccess | Official KSP Discord https://tinyurl.com/KSPDiscord | <packbart> at least Kerbin has fixed seasons. they stay where they are and don't move about the planet
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<raptop> consider: Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz Kerman
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<Guest62901> hello nameless
<Guest62901> i got to go, mother is another bother
<Guest62901> weather changing
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<raptop> blink
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<raptop> !mission
<LunchBot> You try a twelve-degree approach to land at Island Runway 09. Absolutely *everything* catches fire spontaneously.
<raptop> What, is a 12 degree descent angle too shallow?
<raptop> >.>
<raptop> <.<
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<NeckoGecko> So... Everything is bad about KSP 2?
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<packbart> NeckoGecko: no
<packbart> not everything
<NeckoGecko> Oh?
<packbart> some things are shiny and cool, I'd say
<packbart> although it was disheartening to see the roachover flop over on Eve's sinking terrain
<NeckoGecko> As I hear, FPS is awful, no flames when penetrating atmosphere from orbit, a lot of glitches, and very wierd render of the clouds. Like itrenders in very low resoolution, scaling up, and as result borders of clouds acting very....wierd
<packbart> yeah, it can be a challenge to work around the bugs and still reach your intended destination. but from what I see, rarely anyone ragequits because of them
<Mat2ch> NeckoGecko: lots of Bugs. Danny will have much fun.
<Mat2ch> Also someone mentioned weird aero simulation
<Mat2ch> H3 failed launch
<Mat2ch> you can see the rocket falling from the sky somehow...
<Mat2ch> separation of side boosters, then the rocket slowly turns sideways
<packbart> https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1755599314?t=02h29m14s - Eve's clouds are a bit odd. At least parachutes can be repacked in flight if they rip off unexpectedly
<Mat2ch> That sounds broken.
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<Mat2ch> Launch Window.
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<darsie> .
<darsie> 1337
<darsie> hmm
<darsie> I sent it at 13:37:00, but it didn't arrive.
<Althego> hehe
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<minas_tirith> Althego, hi uwu
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<Guest36850> Hello is an admin here?
<Guest36850> i made a post on accident in a tab i opened before login
<Guest36850> i was wonderding why i suddnly had to do a captcha ...
<Guest36850> is there a way to remove or merge sucha post?
<packbart> Guest36850: probably best to "report" your own post with an explanation, I guess
<packbart> hm. or maybe I was thinking of another forum
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<darsie> How do I make an infinite loop in kos? until 1=0 {}?
<darsie> while true doesn't seem to exist.
<darsie> and chatgpt is on strike.
<darsie> So I still need you ;).
<darsie> until false seems to work.
<Mat2ch> darsie: kOS macht doch eine unendliche Schleie
<Mat2ch> Oh, sorry, english :D
<Mat2ch> kOS does run in an infinite loop afaik
<Mat2ch> it runs with every cycle of the physics engine, which is like running indefinitely
<Althego> der weltraum. unendliche weiten
<darsie> bbl
<darsie> Mat2ch: I don't think so.
<Mat2ch> That's what I remember about kOS
<Mat2ch> oh, wait, it was more like: In loops every step is done by every physics iteration (or so)
<Mat2ch> so if you want an infinite loop just do an "until" which never comes true.
<Mat2ch> that's the interesting part about how kos works
<darsie> Do I have to install somethinf for https://ksp-kos.github.io/KOS_DOC/structures/misc/kuniverse.html#method:KUNIVERSE:QUICKSAVETO ? Or is there a stock save command in kos?
<packbart> isn't that the stock save command?
<darsie> quicksaveto("ci").
<darsie> Undefined Variable Name 'quicksaveto'.
<packbart> KUniverse:QUICKSAVETO("ci") ?
<packbart> kOS is an ugly language designed by someone who hated computers. I wouldn't touch it :)
<packbart> or rather Kerboscript
<darsie> yay, worked :)). thx!
<Althego> but isnt that intentional?
<darsie> It's the Kerbal way :).
<Mat2ch> packbart: I fully agree
<raptop> packbart: that makes kOS sound like PHP?
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<darsie> Now I use perl to call a python script that saves in ksp via krpc. Then the perl script calls grep to search for a class I comet in the save file and if found, perl renames teh save files.
<Althego> but perl already can search in files without a grep...
<darsie> But I'd have to load the file in perl, right?
<Althego> which is like 2 lines
<darsie> found one!
<Althego> i would have skipped perl altogether though
<Mat2ch> raptop: worse.
<Althego> worse than php?
<Althego> is it worse than ada even?
<Mat2ch> I have never worked with Ada, can't tell...
<darsie> It's an inner class I comet, ofc.
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<raptop> What do you even do with Ada, explain to the missile how it knows where it is?
<raptop> darsie: as long as your scripts don't result in parsing HTML with regular expressions...
<Althego> hehe
<darsie> Oh, I've done that, too.
<Mat2ch> Hehe
<Althego> i do process html with awk sometimes
<Althego> which contains regex
<Althego> but only fixed few sites
<Mat2ch> For a known set of HTML this is fine. Like for repairing something. But not for actually parsing html...
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<darsie> I've extracted img links from a broken CMS.
<darsie> Hmm, how do I calculate Pe from a negative SMA?
<darsie> I guess I need ECC, too.
<darsie> nm
<darsie> What I'm after is altitude.
<raptop> yeah, should be doable if you have both
<raptop> Pe = a(1-e) should still give reasonable answers?
<darsie> No, I want to know if it's far or close to Pe.
<raptop> oh, so something closer to the kepler equation
<darsie> Hmm, does MNA tell me that?
<raptop> (...though I don't know if that works for hyperbolic orbits)
<raptop> depending on how its dealing with the epoch, MNA might
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<darsie> I feel like the guys waiting for their bitcoin hardware wallet hack to finish :).
<minas_tirith> I have heard good things about Perl
<raptop> consensus is that it's a good language for both hacking together small scripts, and summoning eldritch abominations
<SporkWitch> now that python's plugin/library ecosystem has caught up with PERL, it's supplanted it as the most popular scripting language. That happened several years ago, though
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<packbart> well, it's a highly optimized regex engine with a few added utility functions ;)
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<raptop> heh
<raptop> I think the standard joke with Python is that it's the 2nd best language for everything
<packbart> I haven't looked at recent benchmarks, though. I would guess that Perl is still in the top, if not the fastest thing to match patterns in large amounts of data
<packbart> well, maybe depends on the definition of "large". I haven't worked with Hadoop-stuff in years now
<SporkWitch> i want to say python can still perform better, since it CAN be compiled ahead of time (it will even do this automatically for especially large or complex programs, compiling once on first run and saving that for reuse)
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<darsie> Stripes on the water: http://0x0.st/Hi-Z.png
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<packbart> must be tidal waves
<SporkWitch> discord losing it's mind because of some layoffs at the publisher level heh
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<darsie> Found a high class I comet.
<Izzy> that stripe is the secret runway in the kermuda triangle
<Izzy> if you land on it you get an achievement
<Azander> !mission
<LunchBot> You add one more booster. BLAAAAAGH!
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* Azander frowns.
<Azander> Only 1?
<raptop> something something straws sommething camel's back
<darsie> Azander: To balance the first one :).
<raptop> Anyway, remember the Atlas V 411
<packbart> Just one more booster, monsieur?
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