raptop changed the topic of #KSPOfficial to: Kerbal Space Program official channel | Rules: http://tinyurl.com/KSP-Rules | Δv maps: https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.png https://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png | KSP 2 Early Access Feb 24 https://tinyurl.com/ksp2earlyaccess | Official KSP Discord https://tinyurl.com/KSPDiscord | <packbart> at least Kerbin has fixed seasons. they stay where they are and don't move about the planet
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<X> So I loaded up KSP2 on my 4770k and like... stuff isn't even maxed.
<X> And it's getting 20fps
<Izzy> X: what GPU?
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<Guest70023> i was wondering if i could download rockets somewhere?
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<raptop> Not with bouncing out like that
<X> Izzy 2070s
<Izzy> Huh, I wouldn't imagine that to be the bottleneck there then. Odd.
<nate> <SporkWitch> ooof, very stupid statement by nate saying the spec would decrease...
<nate> is this supposed to be a different nate or have I simply forgotten saying something cause I have no idea what you're talking about
<nate> lol
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<Althego> lol
<Althego> nate: it was about the ksp2 creative director, nate simpson
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<X> Izzy, yeah it was weird that nothing was running at 100%. I'm going to blame the ram as the bottleneck.
<Izzy> Maybe... If DDR3 is the problem then ... *chuckles* I'm in danger.
<Izzy> Other possibility would be that it's slower in single-core than more modern CPUs and there's some single-threaded process that everything else depends on.
<TheKosmonaut> Seems that I can’t have the runway not spawn me below terrain
<TheKosmonaut> No matter what I do
<TheKosmonaut> It’s literally unplayable.
<TheKosmonaut> Runway is under the trees and I can roll forward but can’t get lift. Then when I reach a point in which the runway comes “out” of the ground I just impact the surface from below and explode
<darsie> TheKosmonaut: You can set orbit/position.
<darsie> If the cheat window still exists.
<darsie> in krpc target_vessel=comet Thomptop-Nelble 7, but conn.space_center.vessels does not include comets :(.
<Izzy> I wonder if that'd be something to do with GPU drivers, the terrain weirdness
<Izzy> I know in E:D if your GPU compute stuff is wonky then the planet terrain ends up wrong and bases will be hovering (kilometres) above or buried below the terrain
<Izzy> Happened once to me with the linux NVIDIA drivers
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<TheKosmonaut> darsie: debug menu was removed iirc
<TheKosmonaut> Also, this game is so buggy that Edgar from Men In Black is getting annoyed every time i either have to kill the game via task manager or it crashes on me.
<TheKosmonaut> My ship disappeared in Vab, the nav ball/flight UI appeared, and the whole VAB disappeared. I’m moving at 2201m/s snd am 177km above the surface.
<TheKosmonaut> And I never launched.
<TheKosmonaut> Tbh the game is so broken I honestly may refund
<TheKosmonaut> It’s amazing how bugs from ages ago resurfaced too
<TheKosmonaut> PAIGE also keeps appearing on my loading screen even though I am very sure I turned it off
<TheKosmonaut> And telling me my rocket is out of fuel
<TheKosmonaut> IN the VAB
<Althego> there was one image where one anomaly from an other planet was stuck on the rocket before launch
<TheKosmonaut> Yeah. This is just some Bull.
<TheKosmonaut> I mean. The game is entirely broken for me.
<TheKosmonaut> In a week. I have only orbited 1 craft.
<TheKosmonaut> The aero model is questionable. Even by KSP standards
<TheKosmonaut> I have yet to have a single plane take off
<TheKosmonaut> The only thing I actually enjoy is the coloring
<TheKosmonaut> And that’s marred by the fact that, as far as I can tell, there is no history for the colors you’ve picked and no dropper either
<Mat2ch> Needs a "favorite colors" as well
<Mat2ch> or is that the dropper you mean?
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<darsie> Which kOS shall I use to execute a comet searching python program?
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<Mat2ch> kOS? Or more krpc?
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<darsie> kOS
<darsie> Didn't work with krpc the way I wanted.
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darsie has left #KSPOfficial [Wash your hands. Don't touch your face. Avoid fossil fuels and animal products. Have no/fewer children (later). Protest, elect sane politicians. Invest ecologically.]
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* darsie tries kOS: Scriptable Autopilot System.
<darsie> 207,637 downloads
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<FLHerne> ;mission add A fortune-teller warns you of a catastrophe in the coming week. You are unimpressed - they might as well have predicted a Monday.
<LunchBot> Added mission: A fortune-teller warns you of a catastrophe in the coming week. You are unimpressed - they might as well have predicted a Monday.
<Mat2ch> !mission
<LunchBot> You hold a press conference about your space program. You think "Here we go again!".
<Mat2ch> I hate press conferences.
<FLHerne> maybe if the press conferences were to announce major Science breakthroughs, rather than to report the latest spectacular explosion
<Mat2ch> !mission
<LunchBot> You attempt to bring your rocket design from beta to release in one step. You shatter everyone's previous expectations of flan.
<Mat2ch> Vega-C report on what went wrong
<Mat2ch> the press release sounds a bit like Avio made a mistake, but it's pretty obvious ESA just ordered the wrong material...
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<Funkenstein> ;mission
<LunchBot> You make people wonder about something silly for no reason at all. This probably has something to do with quantum.
<raptop> :thonk:
<Mat2ch> !mission
<LunchBot> You discover mountain dew in the seas of Eve. You fail under a flood of 502 errors.
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<XXCoder> too much mountain dew
<XXCoder> ;mission
<LunchBot> You spell fluorine as "flourine" in the procurement docs. Hull breach in Sector 12!
<XXCoder> yeah who knows what "flourine" was, probably very corrosive
<packbart> in sector 12 was the bakery
<packbart> "unexpected thermo-mechanical over-erosion" - kinky
<Mat2ch> !mission
<LunchBot> You replace your red flags with red balloons. Strike the earth!
<Mat2ch> Looks like red balloons were the sign for the attackers
<packbart> Mat2ch: shouldn't the "design authority and prime contractor" of the engine know what material to put in there?
<packbart> not sure how much of the responsibility for ordering stuff lies with Arianespace
<Mat2ch> packbart: it looks like they used the same material for other engines just fine, but Vega-C uses a new, bigger one and that was the problem.
<packbart> yeah, but I wouldn't know where to put the blame. sounds to me as if Ariane is only the "launch provider" (and ESA is out, anyway), the rocket was designed and built by Avio
<Mat2ch> I have no idea how close they work together
<Mat2ch> ESA is not very transparent
<packbart> it's all outsourced to the lowest bidder in Ukraine
<Mat2ch> But the lowest bidder gets said: Use this and this material and do it
<Mat2ch> So somebody up the ladder approved this
<packbart> why, if the lowest bidder designed the thing?
<packbart> anyway, I don't know :)
<packbart> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zefiro_(rocket_stage) - Avio is the engine manufacturer. ESA/Ariane don't tell them anything, I'd imagine
<Mat2ch> As I said I have no idea how close they work together.
<Mat2ch> Space is hard, the people working there are probably knowing each other for a long time
<Mat2ch> and they do design decisions together, maybe even material testing
<Mat2ch> and the testing said: This c-c material is good enough. You don't want to overdo it, getting to space is really expensive, so you cut costs
<Mat2ch> Maybe they didn't think about this when they scaled up the engine. The Zefiro engines are an almost 20 year old design
<Mat2ch> There's so much that could go wrong here, but I wouldn't blame it on the manufacturer, because they just get the specifications for the material and the dimensions.
<packbart> in any case, they seem confident that this particular problem won't occur again :)
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<Azander> !mission
<LunchBot> You realise you have been playing KSP for 24 hours straight. Your brain is poured into a computer.
<raptop> F
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<darsie> ;outcome add An emergency rover brings you to the emergency room where we are now.
<LunchBot> Added outcome: An emergency rover brings you to the emergency room where we are now.
<darsie> ;mission add You sit 3 days straight playing KSP and develop a thrombois in your legs which eventually breaks free and blocks vital arteries.
<LunchBot> Added mission: You sit 3 days straight playing KSP and develop a thrombois in your legs which eventually breaks free and blocks vital arteries.
<darsie> A Man Played Video Games Nonstop For 73 Hours. This Is What Happened To His Organs.
<darsie> s/thrombois/thrombosis
<raptop> !mission fixup s/thrombois/thrombosis/
<LunchBot> New text is: You sit 3 days straight playing KSP and develop a thrombosis in your legs which eventually breaks free and blocks vital arteries.
<packbart> that man clearly didn't prepare