<LunchBot>
Your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to kill every kerbal in one titanic explosion. The last few decades' mysterious population growth turns out to have been time travelers jumping back to avoid today's event.
<raptop>
:thonk:
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<LSkilton>
Geddy Lee from Rush, Mrs. Edna Skilton, and Jean Pierre Manikariza are at it again! Read about their hot steamy sexual adventure at Fort Moultrie on Sullivan's Island! https://justpaste.it/Skilton-Geddy-Lee-Fort-Moultrie
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<raptop>
hrm, probably need to clean up the ban list
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<Eddi|zuHause>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You try to perform a barrel roll while on the ground. A pile of viruses is unexpectedly dumped onto Mission Control.
<Eddi|zuHause>
oh no...
<XXCoder>
probably left jar of it on jet and it got flung
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<Althego>
why did then need to wait until the last seconds?
<darsie>
Bad weather at barge?
<darsie>
"probability of landing failure"
<Mat2ch>
I guess high upper winds at the barge. That could blow the booster of course too much
<raptop>
darsie: that's the sort of delay you'd expect to see with a 737 flight or something
<Mat2ch>
Nah, they will just land at a different airport and wish you good luck.
<raptop>
hah
<Mat2ch>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You use drainage pipes after having run out of fuel lines. Your activities are later retconned out.
<Mat2ch>
uh, retconned?
<Althego>
i could understan retconning in. but how do you retcon something out?
<SporkWitch>
same way. "this thing always happened" vs "this thing never happened."
<SporkWitch>
off the top of my head i can't think of any examples from film; i can think of several RL examples but they're inately political so I'll leave it at that
<Althego>
some guys were removed from photos in the soviet union
<SporkWitch>
many events just of the past few years are ignored and even outright denied
<Althego>
but i perceived retconning as somehow fitting people or events into already existing events as if it happened, and for that nothing actually is changed, but removing somebody needs change
<SporkWitch>
retcon is just a contraction for "retroactive continuity," it's certainly more typical to explain adding something that doesn't make sense, one of the most famous examples being the changes to the Han and Greedo scene in A New Hope, but it can also be in the form of ignoring something that happened in the past. I think one could argue that about the JJ Abrams Star Trek movies. In lore, phasers
<Althego>
those font exist for me :)
<SporkWitch>
don't work at warp speed, since as soon as it left the warp bubble it would drop back down to speed of light. JJ Abrams uses phasers at warp, ignoring the established physics of the universe
<Althego>
that is called fanon discontinuity :)
<Althego>
and if it is extremely bad, and even the creator says it sucks, and shouldnt exist, that is the canon discontinuity
<SporkWitch>
nonetheless, it's technically a retcon
<Mat2ch>
Oh, revising, removing something later on. Now I get it.
<Mat2ch>
So there's now proof of the drainage pipes :P
<Eddi|zuHause>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You build a giant Orffyreus's wheel to satisfy your power needs. Your heroic sacrifice in the name of science is remembered for generations.
<Althego>
no, now there is no proof. as if you have never did that
<Althego>
*done
<Eddi|zuHause>
is that retconning that juri gagarin apparently ejected from the capsule before it hit the ground, which was kept as a state secret because it would have invalidated the completed orbit?
<Althego>
no, they just didnt say he did
<Althego>
lying by omission
<Eddi|zuHause>
i think they outright lied by saying he stayed in the capsule
<Mat2ch>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You try to launch your Jool probe with an Inertial Upper Stage from your payload bay. Val's sarcasm is more accurate than your paranoia.
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<Eddi|zuHause>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You try to perform maintenance on your transit vehicle during the capture burn. Your CPU shakes its head in embarrassment and goes back counting integers.
<Eddi|zuHause>
as the CPU should... leave handling floats to the FPU
<Althego>
fpu today is normally part of the cpu
<Althego>
not in the 386 days. but ever since then it is a part
<packbart>
wasn't there a 487, too?
<Althego>
486 already had it built in, maybe except for the slc?
<packbart>
well, there were weird combinations. SX, DX. I had a DX2/66
<Althego>
i startedd wit ha dx2-66 too
<packbart>
anyway, FPUs still are pretty bad at math
<packbart>
not enough digits go count
<packbart>
*to
<Althego>
isnt it usually 80 bits internally?
<packbart>
but then it gets turned into 32bits of floating points
<Althego>
or 64 for double. or to some bits of int
<Eddi|zuHause>
the first CPU i remember using was a 386DX25
<Althego>
hence the necessity of the FMAC instruction
<Althego>
which was missing for a long time from the pc
<Eddi|zuHause>
80bit floats was an intel thing. other processor manufacturers exist(ed)
<Eddi|zuHause>
and only the 32/64 bit variants are standardized as far as i know
<Althego>
i am not sure how many bits, but internally the fpu uses more bits. and when you get the numbers outside it rounds to closes floats
<Althego>
that is why it is good to do the operations without moving the result out, and that is why multiply and accumulate in a single step is useful
<Eddi|zuHause>
there are a lot of open parts about the standard
<sandbox>
the first intel cpu I had was a 486sx25
<Eddi|zuHause>
like when and where to do rounding
<Althego>
somewhat also a responsibility of libc
<Eddi|zuHause>
like, on an intel CPU, multiplying two 64bit floats will internally convert them to 80bit, do the multiplication, and then convert back to 64bit. while other CPUs might directly operate on 64bit
<Mat2ch>
Uh, did you all check mainboard prices recently? This is getting crazy
<darsie>
expersive?
<darsie>
n
<Althego>
everything does
<KrazyKrl>
;outcome add Your aquatic capsule recovery observer is renamed to a floating point unit.
<LunchBot>
Added outcome: Your aquatic capsule recovery observer is renamed to a floating point unit.
<Althego>
and you dont even need to deal with the conversion problems we have
<Mat2ch>
Yeah, what costed 100 EUR a few years back is apparently now worth 400 EUR...
<Eddi|zuHause>
i saw a video where someone complained about that the "cheap" mainboard lines keep adding features which inflates prices
<Althego>
and yet they cant add a simple 2 digit display for eerror codes
<Althego>
that is only on the expensive ones
<packbart>
why would I want a display for cryptic error codes I would have to look up on the net, anyway?
<packbart>
in that case, they could just add a proper LCD and display an error message
<Mat2ch>
true
<Mat2ch>
But that would make 200 EUR/USD extra.
<Mat2ch>
Just because it's a display.
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<Althego>
but they edont even display error codes
<Althego>
they just beep
<Althego>
on maybe 4-5 wyasd
<Althego>
and that is it
<Althego>
the error codes are better
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<Mat2ch>
or just output it over a standardized connection
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<Mat2ch>
if something fails you can just plug in and look
<Eddi|zuHause>
"we should have one standard that unifies all the standards" :p
<Althego>
i dont even need to plug in my eyes
<Eddi|zuHause>
why would a random person have this diagnosis device?
<raptop>
I would like to file a bug report about my eyes' lack of sensitivity to JHK bands
<Eddi|zuHause>
it's not a bug, it's a feature.
<Mat2ch>
Eddi|zuHause: you mean USB?
<Althego>
hehe, the least universal serial bus ever
<Althego>
try something better
<Mat2ch>
Firewire!
<Althego>
at least that didnt have like a dozen connector type
<Althego>
s
<Althego>
i dont know what it needs to be, jtag, can, whatever, choose soemthingbetter
<raptop>
Unique Serial Bus
<Althego>
hehe
<Mat2ch>
Althego: Infrared.
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<raptop>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You dine on some calamari. You scrubbed your launch.
<raptop>
distracted by a lunch I guess
<Mat2ch>
happens
<Mat2ch>
!mission
<LunchBot>
Confusing the DT Vista inertial fusion engine with Windows Vista, you mount an install disk on the back of your spacecraft to achieve extreme specfic impulse. You scare a cat in a box half to death.
<Althego>
hehe
<Mat2ch>
Yeah, that's it.
<Althego>
schrödinger's os drive
<Mat2ch>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You build some of the Star Wars fighters in KSP. Your vessel was a ghost the entire time.
<Mat2ch>
Hm. Not sure about that one. I would never build Star Wars fighters.
<Althego>
i tried millenium falcon, but it always turned out ugly and i gave up hakfway
<Mat2ch>
And I'm just not a Star Wars fan...
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<Eddi|zuHause>
last i checked millennium falcon wasn't a fighter
<sandbox>
freighter
<Mat2ch>
It always annoys me thinking of millennium falcon as a frighter. That thing is far too small to be a frighter.
<Mat2ch>
This is space. Size is not a problem. A freigther can be big and probably will be big
<sandbox>
they explained it by having it pick up cargo containers
<Mat2ch>
Nobody in their right mind would transport small cargo containers...
<Mat2ch>
They would at least use several shipping containers per ship. And I'm talking 100+ here
<Mat2ch>
There is too much expensive human labor for too little cargo.
<sandbox>
did you never play x-wing?
* X
wings it sometimes.
<Mat2ch>
X: We don't want details!
<Mat2ch>
sandbox: I didn't.
<Mat2ch>
Not a Star Wars fan.
<X>
Fine. No details.
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<raptop>
to be fair, it's a silly setting. 1600 m long [star] destroyers