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<Eddi|zuHause> i open lots of tabs in private mode, those get lost on close
<Eddi|zuHause> (in 99% of cases that's a good thing)
<XXCoder> cant remember last time I opened private tab
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<Eddi|zuHause> i got into that habit when browsing random youtube videos, because i didn't want to "spoil" the suggestions
<Eddi|zuHause> i also set it to open links in chat in private mode
<XXCoder> ugh yeah once a while I click a link and my suggestion is full of nutters
<XXCoder> gun, vax or some antiscience nonsense
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<Eddi|zuHause> that was long before that time
<XXCoder> im talking about youtube links
<XXCoder> and youtube suggestions
<XXCoder> so im not sure what you meant by "long before that time"
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<Eddi|zuHause> the time where those categories of videos were common
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<sandbox> phewph
<Deddly> !nextlunch
<LunchBot> Victoria sponge cake.
<Deddly> Tasty
<sandbox> espernet has issues
<Eddi|zuHause> we discussed that already
<FLHerne> is there an agreed successor channel?
<Mat2ch> raptop has reserved ##KSPOfficial on libera.
<Mat2ch> And the understanding was that we're only moving if esper stops working.
<sandbox> there is a ##kerbalspaceprogram on libera
<darsie> Are there any benefits to an *official* KSP channel?
<Mat2ch> 04:20:47* @raptop | Depends on what you want. I parked a ##KSPOfficial, it's unclear if that'll be a thing or not │@Althego
<Mat2ch> woops, copied too much. Sorry Althego
<darsie> Are you pinging him to apologize for accidently pinging him?
<Althego> lol
<darsie> 1357
<darsie> kinda
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<Mat2ch> darsie: exactly that. :D
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<Eddi|zuHause> just double down on it.
<Eddi|zuHause> !mission
<LunchBot> You invent self-heating tea that never gets cold - well, technically it does, but the half-life is a few thousand years which should be good enough. Death is a primitive concept. You prefer to think the crew is battling evil in another dimension.
<Althego> the radioactive self heating tea killed them
<Eddi|zuHause> the self-heating tea killed everyone?
<Eddi|zuHause> or it infused them with dimensional travel power (one-way).
<sandbox> !mission
<LunchBot> The latest memo is incomprehensible. You can't figure out what the sender was thinking, and what appear to be instructions are almost gibberish, but you're bored enough to attempt taking them literally. Your insane purity of vision deserves to be rewarded.
<Deddly> How did we find out about the Esper issues? Was there a server-wide message that went out at some point or something?
<Althego> what exactly are these issues?
<sandbox> I couldn't connect all of yesterday
<Althego> oops. the dns issue is deadly
<Deddly> Yikes
<Althego> you could ignore the expired cert or just use unsecure connection
<Deddly> Well... there's always Discord... but it really feels like a completely different community
<Althego> it is
<Deddly> Does Libera have chanserv and nickserv?
<jan> yeah
<Althego> yes
<Althego> so bascally we could just hop over there
<Althego> this channels hasnt seen lot of traffic anyway
<Althego> it would be simpler for me, since i could drop the espernet network
<Deddly> Do they allow bots?
<Althego> yes
<Deddly> I always liked Arcnet myself, but that was years ago
<Deddly> By the statement here, it looks like there's a chance Esper will survive https://gist.github.com/mrflea/5bc585d2b49182be0f9006d20f364471
<SporkWitch> Deddly: yes, a global went out a couple days ago. I only caught it because I have a bouncer, so I'm technically always connected.
<Deddly> :(
<SporkWitch> Ironically, this is sounding similar to an issue a friend's company ran into a decade ago lol. Was the beginning of their big annual industry conference and their site was down. She reached out and I spun up a placeholder site for them in a few minutes, but it took another 6 hours for them to get to someone that could update the DNS records to point at the placeholder.
<SporkWitch> in any case, we should seriously consider potential networks to move to. Yeah, this channel isn't super busy, but we've still got regulars, and IRC > discord.
<Deddly> We have the channel registered on Libera as a plan B
<SporkWitch> librairc.net? or a different one?
<Deddly> libera.chat
<Althego> libera.chat
Deddly changed the topic of #KSPOfficial to: Kerbal Space Program official channel | KSP2 current version: 0.2.1.0 | Rules: http://tinyurl.com/KSP-Rules | Δv maps: https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.png https://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png | If Esper collapses, plan B is #KSPOfficial on Libera.chat
<Althego> but if there is already a channel there, why have two?
<Deddly> Althego, raptop registered it just in case. We won't be running two channels, but we have to have it registered so it's ready just in case
<Deddly> Or do you mean, why not migrate there now?
<Althego> [13:54:07] <sandbox> there is a ##kerbalspaceprogram on libera
<Althego> [13:55:12] <darsie> Are there any benefits to an *official* KSP channel?
<Althego> i meant the other over there
<Deddly> Ah. Well, the benefit of having it official is we get a link on the website and we inherit the community rules
<Althego> so net negative
<Deddly> Depends on your view. I personally like the rules, but I'm not everyone. And having a link on the forum means we're connected to the rest of the community.
<Althego> but not actually
<Althego> so we get rigidly enforced rules for the nobody who appears here
<Althego> i mean does not appear here obviosuly
<Deddly> I really like the no-swearing and "be nice" rules that aren't enforced in other communities.
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<Deddly> But I do get it that I'm in the minority.
<Deddly> Hey it's DibzNr!
<sandbox> I never/rarely swear anyway
<DibzNr> Woa, technology
<Althego> you know some rules are needed. maybe less rigid
<Deddly> Kianda already is
<Deddly> Kinda*
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<SporkWitch> can't seem to connect to that network...
<SporkWitch> nevermind, finally got through. weird
<Deddly> I think ##kerbalspaceprogram over there is a dead channel
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<Eddi|zuHause> !mission
<LunchBot> You put the SRBs on backwards. Probe doesn't give you lemons! Probe gives you Data!
<sandbox> I didn't see that other channel on libera yesterday
<sandbox> might have been there, or maybe not
<sandbox> I stopped using libera years ago, but ironically only went back a few days ago when someone else said they couldn't connect to it
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<Mat2ch> sandbox: Libera only exists since 2021...
<sandbox> exactly, 2021 was years ago
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<Mat2ch> It sounds like a lot more though. :D
<sandbox> dfhack was far more active back in the days of freenode
<Mat2ch> well, freenode decided to shoot itself in the foot.
<Eddi|zuHause> 2021 was basically yesterday
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<Althego> 3 years man
<Althego> remember there was still covid in 2021
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<sandbox> a lifetime ago
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<sandbox> I think we'd all like to forget that time
<Mat2ch> Nah, we are just humans, we forget what we have eaten yesterday.
<sandbox> pizza
<Mat2ch> Nice. Left me some?
<sandbox> nope
<sandbox> I assume covid is still catching people
<Mat2ch> Sad :)
<Mat2ch> :(
<Mat2ch> It is.
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<sandbox> I can't remember if it was last year I had it or if it was two
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<Mat2ch> sandbox: just make sure you don't get it too often. It seems to seriously hurt some peopls immune system :(
<sandbox> meh, it wasn't so bad
<sandbox> tiring sure
<Mat2ch> and Diana aka Physics Girl still hasn't recovered from Long Covid. Maybe never will :(
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<sandbox> !mission
<LunchBot> You attempt to re-create the Orion mission and synchronise it with the real-world livestream. It's actually kinda fun if you ignore the inconvenience.
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<Judge_DedD> !nextlunch
<LunchBot> Boiled egg.
<Judge_DedD> with...
<Judge_DedD> !nextlunch
<LunchBot> Pasta and brown sauce.
<Judge_DedD> Interesting combo
<Judge_DedD> And for afters?
<Judge_DedD> !nextlunch
<LunchBot> Hotdogs & frikandel buns.
<Judge_DedD> Unconventional
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<packbart> !nela
<Kerbot> packbart => Falcon 9 - Crew-8 - Mar 04 (estimated) - https://rocketlaunch.live/launch/crew-8 for info/stream
<Althego> suposedly 3:53 utc
<Eddi|zuHause> dunno, intuitively i'd have thought pasta goes better with scrambled egg rather than boiled egg
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<sandbox> I just had frikadellen
<Althego> and what is that
<Althego> meat balls
<Eddi|zuHause> sort of
<Eddi|zuHause> a bit bigger
<Eddi|zuHause> think maybe an inflated hamburger
<sandbox> tasty
<Eddi|zuHause> usually made from pork, or mixed pork/beef
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<XXCoder> ;mission
<LunchBot> You demand the United Nations rename lava to drippy fire. The KAA grounds you forever.
<XXCoder> drippy mcfire lava
<XXCoder> too bad on ban though. time to start a band?
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<FLHerne> I have no problem with the rules personally; it's not as if they're enforced strictly to the letter
<FLHerne> my only problem with them is that a large chunk of LunchBot's corpus is from #SpaceXFun and a lot of that is probably against at least one rule :p
<FLHerne> !stupid
<LunchBot> At this time of year, at this time of day, in this part of the country? Localized ENTIRELY within your kitchen?
<FLHerne> this fails to be an example
<Mat2ch> The bot might get an exception.
<Azander> I think I missed something
<Eddi|zuHause> i think the question was whether to make a "official" or "inofficial" KSP channel, the latter having the advantage to be more lenient with "the rules"
<Azander> ahhh
<Eddi|zuHause> all that under the precondition that we actually have to move away from here, when the network really shuts down.
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<Eddi|zuHause> anyway, i think an "official" channel might be found easier, but i don't think many people are looking for a channel anymore
<FLHerne> Eddi|zuHause: the network is already, currently, 'really shut down'
<FLHerne> unless you reconfigure your client to use the specific IPs, or are using a bouncer and haven't disconnected yet
<Eddi|zuHause> is there a list of ips?
<FLHerne> any non-technical user won't be able to reach us currently
<Eddi|zuHause> well, i don't know how low the overlap between non-technical and irc users is nowadays
<FLHerne> 51.81.82.143 51.255.119.242 139.99.136.176 188.240.145.50
<FLHerne> 2001:41d0:304:200::e1e0, 2001:6b0:78::50, 2402:1f00:8100:400::1570, 2a00:d880:5:45c:ca7a::
<Eddi|zuHause> what i meant to ask was: is there somewhere a person who's currently unable to connect can find them?
<FLHerne> Not that I'm aware of
<FLHerne> hence "the network is already, currently, 'really shut down'" :p
<FLHerne> there is no espernet, just some zombie servers
<Azander> :(
<Azander> I outlasted another big one :(
<packbart> tbh, I didn't quite understand what the message meant by "our DNS caches are expiring". as long as the nameservers are up, the records should be served?
<Mat2ch> but that also means they can't add or remove servers from the network.
<Eddi|zuHause> i thought half of the problem was that the servers themselves need to be moved because of sponsor change?
<Eddi|zuHause> which obviously means they can't take the IPs with them
<Mat2ch> and no access to the domain also means that it might not get renewaled
<Mat2ch> Well, going to sleep. See you on the other side.
<sandbox> good luck
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<Eddi|zuHause> !mission
<LunchBot> As you approach the surface, you think "Here we go again..." Your NTR leaves you for a sleeker, more powerful spacecraft.
<XXCoder> ntr leaves you yet again
<XXCoder> ;mission
<LunchBot> You research quantum flubber sneakers. Oh my god, you killed Kenny.
<XXCoder> yeah kenny went to space
<XXCoder> he wasnt wearing suit so yeah
<Eddi|zuHause> Kenny Kerman?
<XXCoder> seems so