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<Eddi|zuHause>
maybe i release the research paper. or i release the xenobacterium. maybe it works as an aphrodisiac.
<Eddi|zuHause>
the origin story of the dating sim
<Eddi|zuHause>
i mean it's from Eve. the personification of love (probably)
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<FLHerne>
.outcome add Given the option of dying in the game or in real life, the choice is obvious.
<LunchBot>
Added outcome: Given the option of dying in the game or in real life, the choice is obvious.
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<nshire>
what's the deal with that latam flight
<nshire>
turbulence or mechanical problem?
<Althego>
what is latam
<nshire>
LATAM airlines
<nshire>
"The pilot stated that all the instrumentation went completely blank and he lost all of his ability to fly the plane."
<Althego>
that is strange
<nshire>
787 experienced ..some event... which caused the plane to experience negative G for a moment of time, which sent lose passengers onto the ceiling before crashing them down to the floor
<nshire>
*loose
<Althego>
that would mean a big chunk of the electrical system was out
<Althego>
with good design not all the instruments are on the same circuit
<Althego>
so at least some of them should have been operational, not to mention backup instruments
<nshire>
they probably are
<nshire>
you can't be sure it was a simple power outage that caused that
<nshire>
I'm thinking flight computer crash
<Althego>
that would depend on what the pilot means with blank
<Althego>
mfds have their own embedded computers to render the visuals
<nshire>
so many things can go wrong to cause the screen to go blank
<Althego>
and there are two cdu/fms is also duplicated
<Althego>
so for this to happen it is extremely strange
<Althego>
unless somehow there is a strange software bug that infests all the computer with a crash at the same time
<Althego>
but even then, the backup instruments are totally separated an they even have their own battery power
<nshire>
that's why I don't think it was a simple power cut
<nshire>
power supplies and flight computers are probably all double or triple redundant
<Althego>
and typically pilot and copilot side systems have their own power circuit and bus
<nshire>
787 has 4 power generators under normal circumstances
<nshire>
plus apu
<Althego>
if it loses all powr the ram air turbine is deployed
<nshire>
2 generators per engine and 2 on the apu
<Althego>
it couldnt have been a total power loss
<nshire>
it was pretty much instantaneous too
<nshire>
seemed to come back online with no user input required
<Althego>
i heard a story about f-22 that all computers crashed when crossing the international date line
<nshire>
an early f22 prototype crashed when someone put a negative instead of a positive in the autopilot software
<Althego>
ah yes i saw this. full fly by wire systems usually crash in early flights
<nshire>
I wonder what kind of datalink they use for the tactical link nowadays
<nshire>
frequency band and modulation type would be interesting to know
<Althego>
radio is usually frequency hopping for eccm and can also do digitl encryption with keys held in emergency erasable storage
<Althego>
this applies to voice, text and file transfer
<nshire>
I wonder if you could accurately guess the frequency range by looking at fcc filings
<Althego>
otherwise they are normal vhf and uhf radios
<Althego>
there can also be hf radio
<nshire>
I don't know if that would have the bandwidth required for targeting
<nshire>
they must operate at at least a few ghz
<Althego>
so what do you mean by datalink then
<Althego>
there can also be a satcom, but that is nothing more than a glorofied phone
<nshire>
taclink 16 for example
<nshire>
AWACS can transmit whole battlefield pictures to planes operating nearby
<nshire>
f35 can receive and transmit targeting data for missiles
<Althego>
i dont think it would need ghz radio for that
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<Eddi|zuHause>
bandwidth also depends on how... wide... the ... band... is
<Althego>
technically. but in reality they are usually limited by standards
<Eddi|zuHause>
sure, but there are loads of "military only" ranges in the standard
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<Deddly>
That is one large netsplit
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<Deddly>
!nextlunch
<LunchBot>
Peanut butter wrap.
<Deddly>
yuck.
<Deddly>
!nextlunch
<LunchBot>
A couple granola bars and several liters of gatorade because you're stuck outside for 8 hours.
<Mat2ch>
T-3 hours /o\
<Deddly>
I'm really looking forward to this.
<Deddly>
REALLY hoping for a 1337 launch
<Althego>
hehe
<Deddly>
All we need is one teeny little delay
<Deddly>
Someone go get a boat out there or something
<Althego>
hehe
<Althego>
if they have to stop, they do a recycle, that would probably be longer than a few minutes
<Deddly>
>:(
<Deddly>
Maybe it's exactly 37 minutes
<Mat2ch>
I don't think they will launch then, but fill it
<FLHerne>
bad luck with the lunches
<FLHerne>
!nextlunch
<LunchBot>
Vegetable fried rice.
<FLHerne>
I hope today's launch luck is better than lunch luck :-(
<Althego>
!lunch
<LunchBot>
Figgy Duff.
<Althego>
funny lokoing name
<Althego>
whatever it is
<Althego>
i thought duff was the fake beer brand from simpsons
<Althego>
and you cant make beer from figgy
<Althego>
or is it fig?
<Althego>
whatever
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<FLHerne>
it's a sort of stodgy pudding with fig bits in
<FLHerne>
suet?
<FLHerne>
no
<FLHerne>
One traditional recipe lists the ingredients as breadcrumbs, raisins, brown sugar, molasses, butter, flour, and spices. These are mixed and put in a pudding bag, wrapped in cheesecloth, or stuffed into an empty can and then boiled
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<Deddly>
<FLHerne> bad luck with the lunches
<Deddly>
I still haven't finished mine - still have several litres of Gatorade to somehow get through.
<FLHerne>
at least they're not chlorine trifluoride or something
<Deddly>
AAAAAAAAH
<Deddly>
Anything with the fluoride in it terrifies me.
<Deddly>
Chlorine trifluoride... isn't that the one in that crazy tripropellant rocket engine?
<FLHerne>
that just used raw liquid fluorine
<FLHerne>
they used ClF₃ in some other engines though
<FLHerne>
it's a great oxidizer, possibly too great because it eats most things you can store it in or handle it with
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<Deddly>
Ah right. Liquid fluorine and liquid lithium <shudders>
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<Deddly>
Hahaha! We're getting closer to an actual leet time launch :)
<Deddly>
So, stream starts in about 15-20 mins
<Mat2ch>
official SpaceX stream?
<Deddly>
Yeah
<Deddly>
Aaw they're delaying it beyond 1337
<Deddly>
BOATS
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<Deddly>
European people, that's 14:02
<Deddly>
(CET)
<Mat2ch>
why is it always boats?
<Deddly>
Because they're cheaper than helicopters
<Deddly>
Big venting going on
<Eddi|zuHause>
!mission
<LunchBot>
Bill goes on an EVA to repair the failing AE-35 antenna control unit. When asked to explain your behavior, you can only offer a sheepish chuckle and the inexplicable craving for cream cheese.
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<Deddly>
Delayed more because of the boats
<Eddi|zuHause>
Best Of All TimeS?
<Deddly>
:|
<Deddly>
Bunches Of Antagonistic Twits
<Eddi|zuHause>
could swap out for any B-adjective
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<Deddly>
I wonder why they can't have people clearing the exclusion zone from way before the window opens?
<Deddly>
It must be weird for Tim Dodd to watch and commentate on this when he knows that he will eventually be flying on it
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<Deddly>
Another delay
<Izzy>
bluh, would it kill them to launch rockets at a time convenient for australians smh
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<Deddly>
Izzy, you got roos and drop bears mate. Too much excitement and the continent wouldn't be able to take it.
<raptop>
Maybe. Didn't SLIM land at a similar time
<raptop>
?
<Izzy>
hmm I guess there isn't really a convenient time is there
<Eddi|zuHause>
australia and usa are probably horrible timezone wise
<darsie>
1337
<Eddi|zuHause>
assuming you want to launch during daylight hours
<Deddly>
I can just imagine a video appearing on Youtube in a few years time by the How Ridiculous guys; "How many Starships can we fire a cannonball through from the top of this dam?"
<raptop>
yep, the lander landed at 15:20 UTC (00:20 JST, 01:20 AEST)
<Izzy>
well, I must bed. hope the launch is spectacular
<Pinkbeast>
Hang on, the real Elmo's a cryptocurrency weirdo too
<cringe>
yeah, which probably means its a very lucrative scam
<cringe>
the classic "double your money"
<Pinkbeast>
Mmm, I'm not not sure you can infer it's a fake stream from him shilling crypto. Maybe if he _just_ shills crypto and doesn't go on about creepy conspiracy theories you know it's a fake Elmo. :-)
<raptop>
Guess the booster hit the ocean at mach 1?
<cringe>
unforch
<Mat2ch>
for some reason they didn't ignite the engines early enough
<cringe>
it happens
<Mat2ch>
lost some tiles. Could be survivable though
<cringe>
speaking of, i need mechjeb for ksp2
<cringe>
tryin to be a filthy casual over here
<raptop>
cringe: k2-d2 does at least some stuff
<cringe>
yeah, not quite the same
<cringe>
smooth jazz time
<Deddly>
I missed what they just said. How long until next event?
<Mat2ch>
~30 min
<Mat2ch>
doing a deorbit burn?!
<Deddly>
Aren't they going to show the door test etc?
<Mat2ch>
Did just now.
<Mat2ch>
doing something very German: airing out the rocket. :D
<Deddly>
I missed the door
<Mat2ch>
the camera didn't show it very well. Mostly the moisture inside got sucked out
<Mat2ch>
(technically it moved itself out)
<Deddly>
There's the door!
<Althego>
you could see the sunlight coming in to the inside of the rocket
<Althego>
that was the door
<Althego>
at least that is what i saw
<Deddly>
It was wiggling around
<Althego>
might have been an external view for a few seconds
<Mat2ch>
it was really wiggling around
<Mat2ch>
doesn't look like the best design for a door.
<Mat2ch>
But on the other hand it just has to be really closed on launch, back down the bay is empty.
<Mat2ch>
and some are calling the rotation barbequeing, others say it lost control :P
<Althego>
most amazing reentry shots ever
<Althego>
although its movement looked kind of recless before the heating started
<Mat2ch>
I think they lost control...
<Deddly>
WOW that plasma was incredible to see
<Mat2ch>
maybe the thrusters froze
<Mat2ch>
Deddly: That are shots we've never seen before! And with we I mean humanity
<Deddly>
Exactly!
<Deddly>
Looks like they lost it
<Rokker>
no other reentry vehicle has been able to look at itself reentering
<Deddly>
That was quite a moment
<Deddly>
Getting on-board views all the way up on both the booster and Starship was also pretty incredible
<Deddly>
And Booster's reentry was terrifyingly fast
<nshire>
I wonder if any debris will be recoverable
<nshire>
oh it did do a landing burn?
<nshire>
camera feed cut out with only 2 engines on
<FLHerne>
.mission add You ask your competitors to collude against the Space Bureau in some kind of altruistic reverse price-fixing scheme that happens to benefit you.
<LunchBot>
Added mission: You ask your competitors to collude against the Space Bureau in some kind of altruistic reverse price-fixing scheme that happens to benefit you.
<FLHerne>
nshire: Not really, I think that was the point of failure
<nshire>
last frame I saw was 0km altitude 1000kph
<raptop>
Or, my hydrodynamic joke might be wrong and it broke up from aerodynamic forces
<nshire>
I feel like if it made it that far it probably wasn't aero
<nshire>
400m RUD sounds like FTS
<raptop>
hm
<Mat2ch>
nshire: I wouldn't fully believe the onscreen display they showed
<Mat2ch>
they seem to make some basic approximations in case the flight data isn't received
<Mat2ch>
also they really lost control of the vehicle and only the flaps made it possible to even attempt a controlled reentry. That's interesting and could mean that the next flight will be suborbital as well.
<FLHerne>
Yeah, I'd expect IFT-4 to be roughly a repeat
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<Mat2ch>
The Scott Manley video is already an hour old?!
<raptop>
That was fast
<raptop>
I'm guessing that the main goals for IFT-4 will be in systems testing, especially control-related?
<sandbox>
you were slow
<raptop>
Good thing I'm not making videos
<sandbox>
I watched it 26 mins after the upload
<sandbox>
it was sooner than I expected
<darsie>
Later than announced, I guess.
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<Azander>
!mission
<LunchBot>
After several thousand hours of KSP, you set out to make your own space program. MechJeb uses your rocket as a battering ram.
<Azander>
sounds about right
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<packbart>
didn't adjust MJ's PID
<sandbox>
Concorde
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<Eddi|zuHause>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You throw some feces into the fan to see what happens. You don't see your rocket launch due to buffering.
<Eddi|zuHause>
if the s* hits the fan, but nobody is around to see it...
<XXCoder>
feces probably coated the camera lens anyway
<XXCoder>
or the screen
<ergZay>
so people playing ksp, are you more often playing ksp or ksp2 right now?
<cringe>
myself, ksp more than ksp2
<Eddi|zuHause>
i'm not sure i fall in this category. i haven't really played ksp in years, and i don't own ksp2
<sandbox>
^
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<Eddi|zuHause>
mic drop :p
<cringe>
ksp2 is far from ready for extended game play, things just stop working as expected after a while
<cringe>
addtionally, the mod scene isn't there yet
<cringe>
not really
<packbart>
I like watching some streamers play KSP 2 while I stick to my multi-modded KSP 1 :)