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<Eddi|zuHause>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You attempt to be clever with Oxford commas. You give up.
<Eddi|zuHause>
i don't really understand the nuances of oxford commas. i'm too used to german commas
<Eddi|zuHause>
german comma rules are... special
<Eddi|zuHause>
german has nested sentences that might be a bigger art form than massive compound words
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<XXCoder>
sad. vpyager 1 may be dead soon
<XXCoder>
still gibberish for months
<Eddi|zuHause>
has it left the solar system yet?
<XXCoder>
they left quite a while ago
<XXCoder>
since 2012
<Eddi|zuHause>
yes, but how often?
<Eddi|zuHause>
have they run out of definitions of "solar system" yet?
<XXCoder>
for few years it was at border that waves in and out, so it "left" few times, but havent happened since 2012
<XXCoder>
voyager 2 it was 2018
<Althego>
still inside the oort cloud, so it is still in the solar system
<XXCoder>
heliosphere is defined to be border last I looked
<Althego>
in some sense
<Althego>
but there are objects orbitingthe sun outside of where voyager is
<Althego>
so those are part of the solar system
<XXCoder>
yeah. its huge though
<Eddi|zuHause>
i thought voyager 2 was the faster one?
<Althego>
i think it is 1
<XXCoder>
I suspect its why its helisphere thats used as border
<Althego>
but 2 launched first
<XXCoder>
its actually measuable
<Eddi|zuHause>
then i probably mixed up the numbering
<raptop>
The definitions have been set by heliophysicists for some reason
<XXCoder>
probably set by the big helispheres
<XXCoder>
;outcome add You get gibberish as data from your craft. To see what it sounds like, you play it to audio. That was a big mistake as it summons demons.
<LunchBot>
Added outcome: You get gibberish as data from your craft. To see what it sounds like, you play it to audio. That was a big mistake as it summons demons.
<Eddi|zuHause>
we will probably at some point build a spacecraft that can catch up to voyager 1/2
<Althego>
somewhat of a necessity. it might not be a good idea to send out our location
<Althego>
not that it travels fast, so we literally have thousands of years to get it back
<Althego>
and it is not even sure we will have acivilization in thousands of years
<raptop>
!outcome add Great Leader has died. Solo Nobre must fall. Here is your [new] contract.
<LunchBot>
Added outcome: Great Leader has died. Solo Nobre must fall. Here is your [new] contract.
<raptop>
None of the 5 craft leaving the solar system are really aimed at any star
<raptop>
If humans become an actual interstellar civilization, there's a decent shot that we'll outrun those craft and establish permanant populations on nearby stars thousands of years before they *could* arrive
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<packbart>
D'oh. I didn't remember that I only had a 0.625 stack separator when I build that thing and attached solar panels and antennas
<packbart>
so much for the plan to send the science capsule on a return flight and keep the probe above the Mun to finish the experiments and play relay
<packbart>
I could edit the save and make it a decoupler...
<Althego>
i never use stack separators. the only thing they accomplish compared to a decoupler is that they make spae debris
<Althego>
what is the point?
<packbart>
neither do I. but I think I remember that the separator came first in (this) tech tree
<Althego>
also you dont need a probe core to land the capsule
<Althego>
you can set the opening altitude of the chute
<Althego>
trigger it on separation
<packbart>
I do. the upper part is parachute, science capsule, heatsink
<Althego>
and it is going to open automatically without a probwe core
<Althego>
it is light and als o temperature tolerant
<Althego>
will survive anyway
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<Althego>
at least it was so in ksp1
<packbart>
I was going to make a burn to set the capsule on a return orbit, then turn around and re-capture around Mun to keep the probe in orbit
<packbart>
but due to miscommunication in the design, the solar panels and antennas also fall off when I detach the capsule m)
<Althego>
ah lol
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<Deddly>
I have to say, one of the most annoying trends in UI design in recent times (at least with regards to Windows) is how some applications stay running even when you click the X button. THERE IS A MINIMISE BUTTON GUYS.
<Deddly>
I mean, if I want the program minimised, I'll minimise it, right?
<dnsmcbr>
Deddly: a pox on those developers
<dnsmcbr>
Deddly: tbh a "quit-to-background/tray" icon might have value
<sandbox>
!nextlunch
<LunchBot>
A carrier bag of Bombay Mix.
<sandbox>
I haven't had those in years
<sandbox>
I wouldn't say no
<dnsmcbr>
you can get that at sainsbos now
<Azander>
Deddly: that's a Mac thing. Been in their design for over a decade.
<dnsmcbr>
praise the multicultural aisle (at least in the ldn sainsbos I used to inhabit)
<sandbox>
used to have them all the time
<Azander>
Microsoft hasn't had a 'new' design since about windows XP
<dnsmcbr>
Azander: ?
<dnsmcbr>
I mean you're just rong
<Azander>
quit to background
<dnsmcbr>
You mean specific in scope to "X" button then?
<Azander>
yep
<Deddly>
Azander, Huh. Well, my experience with Macs is limited to Shapeshifter funning on an Amiga A1200
<dnsmcbr>
cos I tried to use XP the other month and my god its so clunky and a pain
<Azander>
hehehe
<Deddly>
funning/running
<dnsmcbr>
The gradual change of windows OSes sure do sneak up on you
<Deddly>
I don't actually see the reason for this at all. There's minimise, maximise and close. Why would I want close to also have the exact same function as minimise?
<Azander>
I support a local newspaper that is almost all macs, including a system9 running a system8 emulator they also have several windows XP sp2 systems. All on print hardware that is even older.
<dnsmcbr>
Deddly: the case where you want the window to close, but the bg app to keep running, i.e. chat/messenger apps
<Azander>
Deddly: i don't either. it is even worse on MAcs because each program is fully self contained. no shared libraries
<Deddly>
All these institutions running antiquated software and they're surprised when they get viruses
<Deddly>
dnsmcbr, but then I'll press the minimise button, right?
<Azander>
heh. Wh said anything about those being on the network to even have a virus attempt to get onto it.
<dnsmcbr>
Deddly: nah cos then it'll linger on the taskbar
<dnsmcbr>
where you want it in the tray
<Deddly>
Azander, Oh well in that case, fair enough
<Azander>
the oldest system on the network is a osx 10.11.6, used as a timeclock only.
<Deddly>
dnsmcbr, ah I see what you mean. Well, a minimise to tray button might be useful, then. In the case of Zoom, clicking X actually minimises it to the taskbar
<dnsmcbr>
Yeah that's what I mean
<dnsmcbr>
oh
<dnsmcbr>
yeah no you're right that's wrong and dum
<Azander>
yep, I agree. minimise hs a button, use it. if I want it to contiue to run I'll use that. if I close it I want to out of memory completely.
<Deddly>
Azander, I actually kinda respect that approach. Why upgrade unnecessarily? I remember seeing an old Amiga A500 powering a display at a museum (OK it was 20 years ago, but it was still old back then) and...well... why not, if it works?
<dnsmcbr>
define unnecessarily
<Azander>
the press itself is from late 1968, early 1969
<dnsmcbr>
upgrading can give obsolescence gains
<dnsmcbr>
i.e. if a component fails you can replace it COTS essentially same-day
<Azander>
Apple had recently made it very hard for us to consider upgrades in their brand.
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<FLHerne>
.outcome add Triple hazard pay! The best three words in the Kerbal language.
<LunchBot>
Added outcome: Triple hazard pay! The best three words in the Kerbal language.
<Deddly>
!nextlunch
<LunchBot>
Fried egg and chips.
<Deddly>
I hope that's the UK chips, because I'm all over that
<FLHerne>
definitely
<sandbox>
I had that fairly recently only because that's what the nephews were having
<dnsmcbr>
You can oven bake the egg on top of chips too for it to be a lot healthier
<dnsmcbr>
Assuming you’re using proper overn chips that aren’t completely doused in oil, or you make them yourself and add a touch of non-shit oil like some extra virgin olive oil
<Deddly>
Please mind the language :)
<Eddi|zuHause>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You discover a kesslertron and deorbit it. Your space agency is shut down, which leaves you feeling a lack of agency in life.
<Deddly>
dnsmcbr, But that's actually something I've wondered about. Potatoes are not generally viewed as unhealthy. A lot of oils are considered very good for the health, such as rapeseed oil sunflower oil etc. So why does it become unhealthy when combining the two?
<Eddi|zuHause>
two things are unhealthy: a) too much of something, and b) fried somethings (because of byproducts)
<packbart>
yolo :)
<Eddi|zuHause>
a1) too little variation
<Deddly>
I think b) depends on the type of oil and the temperature
<Eddi|zuHause>
there's also a "fight" between the proponents of carbohydrates and fats, where one camp will denounce the other as the root of all evils.
<Eddi|zuHause>
so fried potatos are the perfect target for both of those
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<Deddly>
Fried potatoes are just perfect for everything
<Eddi|zuHause>
food "science" is very unscientific at times...
<Deddly>
Like the low-fat food craze. I mean, I get it, we shouldn't eat too much fat (too much of ANYTHING - your point a). But eating fat doesn't automatically make you fat, just like eating broccoli doesn't turn you into a delightfully-shaped vegetable.
<Eddi|zuHause>
i've seen studies where replacing carbohydrates with the same amount of fats made the people healthier
<Deddly>
The fat in oil doesn't go from the dinner plate and settle around a person's midriff. It gets broken down by enzymes in the stomach, just like everything else does.
<Deddly>
Right. Some carbohydrates are much more problematic. Especially highly-processed stuff like white bread and white sugar.
<Deddly>
Now I'm hungry
<Deddly>
!nextlunch
<LunchBot>
Porridge with cranberries, cashew nuts and raisins.
<Deddly>
That sounds too healthy for me
<Eddi|zuHause>
also, this isn't a recent phenomenon. think the spinache craze (which turned out to be based on a measurement error), or the cholesterol craze around eggs (which turned out to have the same amount of anti-cholesterol parts)
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<Deddly>
...and the hysteria about how unhealthy coconuts are, followed by evidence that coconuts are actually great for you.
<Mat2ch>
But they are full of saturated fat
<Mat2ch>
(full of lauric acid, but studies are inconclusive if that is bad or not. Did something change here?)
<Althego>
same thing with margarine. sometiems it is healthy sometimes it is unhealthy. meanwhile i dont care because i dont like it
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<Mat2ch>
Someone somewhere laughs in deep-fried butterstick.
<Deddly>
Mat2ch, coconuts have a certain kind of fat that turns out to be good for you, and can possibly also help in weight loss
<Mat2ch>
Lauric acid is my guess. Wikipedia doesn't list a new study (yet)
<Mat2ch>
people are still unhappy with the state of the game.
<Deddly>
Well sure, it's not finished and it's not very fast. It's way better than it was at launch, though.
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<Eddi|zuHause>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You are inspired by H. R. Giger. Good fight, good night.
<Eddi|zuHause>
celebrity deathmatch, who was the opponent?
<raptop>
[REDACTED]
<raptop>
!mission
<LunchBot>
After fraught negotiations, you agree terms with the little voice in the back of your head. You become distressed upon learning that Darth Kerman is your father.
<Eddi|zuHause>
the force plays tricks on you.
<Deddly>
!nextlunch
<LunchBot>
Fried mince with pasta.
<XXCoder>
;mission
<LunchBot>
Due to a clerical error, your boosters are fueled with mRNA. It was inevitable, given the Mk3 adaptor mass ratios and prices.
<XXCoder>
lol
<raptop>
mRNA, IRFNA, close enough with a smudget sheet of paper
<Eddi|zuHause>
or a XEROX scanner
<raptop>
aaaa
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<raptop>
!outcome add Your equations may be simple and elegant, but the Kraken naturally falls out of them anyway.
<LunchBot>
Added outcome: Your equations may be simple and elegant, but the Kraken naturally falls out of them anyway.