UmbralRaptor changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> … one of the other grad students just compared me to nomal O_o | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
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<UmbralRaptor> Oh, right. My advisor follows me on Twitter. (AAAAAAA)
<UmbralRaptor> Incidentally, it's hard to be anything but LN in AutoCAD, and TN in MicroStation https://twitter.com/rin_grc/status/926143648391155714
<kmath> <rin_grc> I did a thing https://t.co/qQa9lNWdj8
<kmath> https://twitter.com/idkrlyanymore/status/926178811351388160 <idkrlyanymore> Police are warning antifa may bring “a weapon to surpass metal gear” to protests
<SnoopJeDi> *snrk*
<SnoopJeDi> oh my god the reply too
<SnoopJeDi> (I am still finishing up MSGV)
<Qboid> 5d 0h 0m 0s left to event #13: MN35-13/Vega VV11 [at 2017-11-08 01:42:30]. Say '!kountdown 13' for details
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<Ellied> "It's gonna do that, isn't it YUP it did that" https://twitter.com/diodelass/status/926266587895738368
<kmath> <diodelass> My poster for tomorrow is coming along just great, as you can see https://t.co/0ghYDBK9Wv
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<Ellied> (If you wanna see the (hopefully) finished poster: http://www.ellied.net/poster2017.pdf)
<SnoopJeDi> I like your Pi schematic! What's the occasion?
<SnoopJeDi> although the staggered vertical alignment is making my brain go aaaAAAAAA
<Ellied> I couldn't figure out a better way to put it, too little room ;_;
<Ellied> Research showcase at the uni
<SnoopJeDi> heh, that poster feel
<Ellied> I think it's better than my last poster at least
<Ellied> that one had a hand-drawn circuit diagram pasted to the middle of it
<Ellied> tbqh I probably spent WAY too much time on that Raspberry Pi representation for the diagram, though. I actually measured a few things to get it as close to the right proportions as possible, and it should even print actual size on a 3'x4' poster
<SnoopJeDi> technically correct best correct
<Ellied> oh, and the GPIO header actually has 40 pins, because... uh, because.
<SnoopJeDi> you should stick it up somewhere (the Commons, I guess?) with explicit CC if you'd care to share it!
<Ellied> oh, thanks for the reminder! I was gonna add explicit CC.
<SnoopJeDi> and in doing so I've just given myself a reminder that I should put their book on my kindle
<Ellied> It's probably going to be put up in the basement along with the other posters when the showcase is over
<Iskierka> https://i.imgur.com/n4nMmXp.mp4 living haribo
<SnoopJeDi> Кому я позвоню? Ghostbusters!
* UmbralRaptor is okay with this reimagining.
<kmath> <plutokiller> Look, man, you guys gotta get over the fact that since about 1860 Pallas has been considered an asteroid instead of… https://t.co/wQuMOY61SO
<FluffyFoxeh> UmbralRaptor: well at least tech is doing well, apparently
<FluffyFoxeh> too bad I hate the tech industry
<FluffyFoxeh> can I sell my CS degree instead
<egg> UmbralRaptor: clearly we should call Piazzi and Olbers planets, like Herschel and Le Verrier
<UmbralRaptor> FluffyFoxeh: Note that CS barely has demand outrunning supply, so that if ~1k/year change fields…
<FluffyFoxeh> the demand is all in stuff I don't give a shit about anyway like artificial intelligence and data mining
<UmbralRaptor> egg: Also Galilean moons → Medicean planets?
<egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a vicious fried parabolol
<UmbralRaptor> Fried by the vicious radiation field?
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn egg
* Qboid gives egg a Hopf greebled prime
<FluffyFoxeh> !wpn
* Qboid gives FluffyFoxeh an indium collapsar
<egg> bofh: sobbing intensifies
<egg> (also I agree with Everson & West, in particular with their general comments...)
<egg> !u ⏻⏼⏽⏾
<Qboid> U+23FB POWER SYMBOL (⏻)
<Qboid> U+23FC POWER ON-OFF SYMBOL (⏼)
<Qboid> U+23FD POWER ON SYMBOL (⏽)
<Qboid> U+23FE POWER SLEEP SYMBOL (⏾)
<kmath> <FakeUnicode> @glasnt @Emojipedia [snarky remark about Unicode being more than emoji, and speculation that iOS won't have Tangut and ⏻⏼⏽⏾]
* egg sobs
<egg> !u ?
<Qboid> U+1703C TANGUT IDEOGRAPH-1703C (?)
<egg> !wpn Fiora
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<egg> !wpn whitequark
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<FluffyFoxeh> wut
<kmath> <PenguinGalaxy> My lap. A really good day with an ideal ending https://t.co/f3tsa9ZMT3
<kmath> <scanlime> https://t.co/2JN2EFFXPB
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<egg> UmbralRaptor: https://twitter.com/Newpa_Hasai/status/776933458287403008 https://twitter.com/Newpa_Hasai/status/925452334074908680 I ended yesterday's weekly meeting ended with "what if I get eaten by a catbus?"
<kmath> <Newpa_Hasai> Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス.
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<egg|work|egg> egg: s/ended w/w/
<Qboid> egg|work|egg thinks egg meant to say: UmbralRaptor: https://twitter.com/Newpa_Hasai/status/776933458287403008 https://twitter.com/Newpa_Hasai/status/925452334074908680 I ended yesterday's weekly meeting with "what if I get eaten by a catbus?"
<kmath> <Newpa_Hasai> Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス.
<bofh> egg: this re: the frowning poop emoji?
<egg|work|egg> bofh: well it's ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 2/WG 2's feedback on the latest batch of emoji proposals, including that one, yes
<egg|work|egg> time well spent for WG 2 *sobs*
<egg|work|egg> apparently they actually listened this time at least? https://twitter.com/FakeUnicode/status/926133437248847873
<kmath> <FakeUnicode> #UTC153 updates: ➿Superhero/Supervillain gender/skin (why) ➕Badger ➕Swan ➕Pirate Flag (cc @bhaggs @tw) ➕Infinity ➖f… https://t.co/ScykzrnsVC
<bofh> uhm... infinity?
<bofh> oh gods WHY DID THEY EMOJIFY U+267E
<bofh> at least it's not the math symbol
<egg|work|egg> bofh: double exclamation mark is emojified, so at this point,
<egg|work|egg> (how I know: tried tweeting a proof containing a double factorial)
<egg|work|egg> had to type in a variation selector
<egg|work|egg> joy
<bofh> fucking hell
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<Iskierka> ... why is circled infinity called "PERMANENT PAPER SIGN"?
<bofh> b/c it's used to denote that the book was printed on acid-free paper.
<UmbralRaptor> egg: feed the catbus papers?
<Iskierka> acid-free catbus
<kmath> <catsu> https://t.co/2r3mvKjmit
<kmath> <catsu> https://t.co/2r3mvKjmit
<Iskierka> same link?
<bofh> ^
<APlayer> Uh, huh?
<APlayer> I opened a thing in that thread
<kmath> <catsu> @byNanaCarolina https://t.co/JownK6xEr6
<bofh> APlayer: yeah, it's Cat Exhibiting Meissner Effect, what about it? :P
<APlayer> The fur looks superconductive indeed :D
<APlayer> I wonder, how do cats keep themselves aerodynamically stable during their famous long leaps?
<APlayer> I know they use conservation of momentum when they swing their tails for attitude control, but I mean they don't look particularly front heavy to begin with for a stable position
<Iskierka> they use their whole body for attitude control
<APlayer> How that?
<kmath> YouTube - Slow Motion Flipping Cat Physics | Smarter Every Day 58
<Iskierka> can do a 180 from standstill in about 3 feet, they can make continuous small adjustments beyond that
<APlayer> I saw that, but IIRC they used the tail there?
<Iskierka> see explanation. It's whole-body deflection, tail is relatively small part of it
<APlayer> Ah, got it
<bofh> https://mobile.twitter.com/AnneWHilborn/status/926458037363240960 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
<kmath> https://twitter.com/AnneWHilborn/status/926458037363240960 <AnneWHilborn> TAs/RAs in my department live paycheck to paycheck. Taxing the ~$6500 we get in tuition waivers will HURT.… https://t.co/zizvyQmxIX
<UmbralRaptor> bofh: stab stab stabbity stab stab
<UmbralRaptor> (For anyone in the audience outside of academia, anyone with a tuition waiver is pretty much by definition low income)
<bofh> ^
<UmbralRaptor> Fiora: I'm reminded how a bunch of the music in Planescape:Torment is a remix of the main theme. https://twitter.com/selfcestry/status/926236703177654272
<kmath> <selfcestry> actually my filthiest kink is when the final battle music is a remix of the main theme
<egg|work|egg> !wpn bofh
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<egg|work|egg> !wpn whitequark
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<kmath> <LesChatsdeJrr> #Kitty @mWare https://t.co/OSs7q1Lz7l
<APlayer> "Kittys!"
* APlayer frowns at that spelling
<UmbralRaptor> APlayer: I blame drugs.
<UmbralRaptor> (@mware is on strong painkillers from wrist surgery)
<APlayer> Ah, sorry then
<APlayer> Just a personal question, not related to anything. Will a Taylor series work on a function which at some order of differentiation has a discontinuity?
<egg|work|egg> !wpn bofh
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<egg|work|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a SOX-compliant feather with a ferram4 attachment
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn egg
* Qboid gives egg a rho squirrel
<UmbralRaptor> APlayer: everywhere but the discontinuity, yes. for dealing with it, ask egg|work|egg?
<APlayer> UmbralRaptor: I mean, across the discontinuity
<APlayer> If the discontinuity happens at x = 0 and you set your Taylor series up at x = 1, will x = -1 be reasonably correct, as far as Taylor series permit?
<APlayer> I don't think it would, would it?
<bofh> Taylor series converge in the disk centered at their expansion point out to the first discontinuity in the function.
<bofh> (tl;dr proof: Cauchy's Integral Formula, just take a Laurent series).
<APlayer> And what happens at the discontinuity and beyond?
<bofh> so if it's centered at 1 and there's a nonremovable singularity at 0, then no, that particular expansion will not converge in neighbourhoods of -1
<egg|work|egg> bofh: "at some order of differentiation has a discontinuity"
<egg|work|egg> so it's C^k and not C^{k+1}
<APlayer> ^
<APlayer> Not sure about what C^k means, though
<bofh> egg|work|egg: um, holomorphic <=> analytic in \mathbb{C}
<egg|work|egg> bofh: yes but whether the first k partial sums of the taylor series are useful is a different question from being analytic
<egg|work|egg> the Taylor series clearly will not converge to the function (it's not C^infinity, thus not C^omega), but Taylor's theorem is still there
<APlayer> That's interesting
<egg|work|egg> the question "Will a Taylor series work" is arguably a tad vague
<bofh> egg|work|egg: yes but if the full taylor expansion is divergent at a point then generally the first k partial sums of the *taylor* series won't be very useful.
<egg|work|egg> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh a subcritical squirrel
<egg|work|egg> bofh: well, you can bound the remainder
<egg|work|egg> (depending on how nuts the function actually is)
<SnoopJeDi> Which doesn't necessarily make it useful :P
<bofh> where's my supercritical squirrel?
<APlayer> bofh: It exploded
* SnoopJeDi pokes bofh and egg|work|egg with https://www.quantamagazine.org/the-atomic-theory-of-origami-20171031/ and the associated arXiv paper
<UmbralRaptor> bofh: we were a few dollars short, so didn't buy one.
<kmath> <JPMajor> Let us know if you acquire any fragments @MeteoritesAZ https://t.co/bEhpNgpMIy
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<kmath> <hackaday> #HackChat in 30 min! We're discussing RF modulation, theory, & other basics w/ @explodinglemur! Questions go here:… https://t.co/i2vpNk6KvG
<FluffyFoxeh> stabbyraptor
<rqou> anybody here use clang+llvm and libunwind?
<rqou> how do i build libunwind ppc?
<rqou> neither binutils nor clang accept the libunwind ppc assembly
<bofh> SnoopJeDi: oh cool!
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<UmbralRaptor> FluffyFoxeh: stabbing solves many problems.
<soundnfury> UmbralRaptor: all problems in computer science can be solved by an additional layer of stabbing.
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<UmbralRaptor> soundnfury: indirect stabbing works like indirect artillery fire, right?
<soundnfury> UmbralRaptor: Sure, why not.
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<egg> !wpn rqou
* Qboid gives rqou an explosive iron which vaguely resembles a Hamiltonian
<rqou> !wpn egg
* Qboid gives egg a comma
<rqou> lol Qboid
<rqou> that was so underwhelming
* egg gives rqou a grass radical
<rqou> lol i hate you :P
<egg> rqou: it has π strokes
<egg> they are written concurrently
* rqou gives egg 731 grass radicals
<rqou> (terrible, obscure, politically-sensitive reference)
* soundnfury gives egg a Brayton bicycle
<egg> rqou: well googling that integer returns that
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<rqou> yeah true
<rqou> google is pretty good nowadays :P
<egg> rqou: also I realized that Android is rather good at CJK language-dependent glyph variants
<egg> it picks the glyph for your most preferred CJK language (even if the language currently in use isn't a CJK language)
<egg> rqou: have you seen Ken Lunde's proposal to encode language-dependent variants as IVSes?
<egg> it sounds neat
<kmath> <CJKType> Today’s article about the “PanCJKV” IVD collection was just updated to add a new graphic → https://t.co/YgfwqlAvmR https://t.co/YD0MFDt5Oc
<kmath> <ken_lunde> The “PanCJKV” IVD collection became very useful for a current task, specifically that “plain text” does the job. https://t.co/ESMWYfcDsD
<rqou> "aliases the seven unsupported regions to the four supported ones, specifically MY/SG to CN, HK/MO/VN to TW, and KP/XK to KR"
<rqou> wow, this guy actually knows wtf he is doing
<egg> rqou: so Ken Lunde is good at this shit
<egg> rqou: he makes one of the pan-cjk fonts (adobe's)
<kmath> <ken_lunde> #CJKV Information Processing, Second Edition poster → https://t.co/jfYbZs0GxP ? https://t.co/zkOq5dyizF
<egg> !wpn whitequark
* Qboid gives whitequark a combustion compressor
<egg> !wpn -add:adj CJKV
<Qboid> egg: Adjective added!
<egg> !wpn -add:adj unified
<Qboid> egg: Adjective added!
<egg> !wpn -add:wpn ideograph
<Qboid> egg: Weapon added!
<egg> !wpn rqou
* Qboid gives rqou a regular cup of tea
<rqou> ah, tea to power my infinite improbability drive
<bofh> excellent!
<egg> rqou: the feedback from the UTC is interesting too (pages 40 and beyond of http://blogs.adobe.com/CCJKType/files/2016/10/iuc40-lunde-s08t2.pdf)
<egg> (the UTC had some feedback, so aiui it didn't turn into a PRI following UTC #47 and is still being worked on?)
<Qboid> [#47] title: Permutation test | | https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/principia/issues/47
<egg> no Qboid
<egg> !acr -add:PRI Public Review Issue
<Qboid> egg: I added the explanation for this acronym.
<egg> also "Breaking News → Apple and Microsoft have expressed interest in this IVD collection"
<egg> that's really nice
<egg> unfucking cjkv unification would be really nice
<bofh> I am curious how "fucked" the situation currently is according to the parties affected.
<egg> bofh: very according to the japanese afaict
<egg> not sure about zh-Hant-TW/zh-Hant-HK
<egg> vi nobody cares about sadly
<egg> bofh: and rqou said that zh-Hans-CN are happy
<egg> but then for pan-CJK fonts the default glyphs are zh-Hans-CN, so,
<kmath> <whitequark> @brouhaha @ireneista that's kind of stupid
<UmbralRaptor> So, something just struck me: I get paid 2x/mo. If I were paid in bitcoin, that might well be the majority of my carbon footprint.
<whitequark> why do people assume bitcoin uses coal electricity
<whitequark> hydro is far cheaper
<whitequark> and china has a lot of hydro
<whitequark> like, you aren't worried that aluminium refining plants run on coal, are you?
<UmbralRaptor> Lots of power in the US is still coal, and I want to say China an India are still doing buildouts.
<Fiora> coal is a major component of base power in a lot of places. but more likely you're using gas i'd guess
<Fiora> given current prices
<UmbralRaptor> That I once (2011-2012) got a job because of a fly ash spill may be related.
<Fiora> in the US it's 34% gas, 30% coal, 20% nuclear, 6% hydro, 10% other
<Fiora> coal only recently stopped being the plurality, though it's dying *fast* due to natural gas prices
<UmbralRaptor> Wait, that means coal is way less than half of what it was a decade ago.
<Fiora> Yup.
<Fiora> well, not WAY less than half.
<Fiora> It's down from like 55%.
<Fiora> in China coal is still 57%.
<Fiora> oh nvm, it's worse than that. that's *generating capacity*.
<Fiora> By amount *produced* it's 70%.
<Fiora> I wonder what has led to the dominance of goal (specifically vs gas). there must be much higher natural gas prices in china than here (and ofc transport is expensive)
<Fiora> *coal
<kmath> <JPMajor> Neptune and Triton as seen by @NewHorizons2015 on its way to Pluto http://t.co/QV26jWFDbb
<soundnfury> yay NH
<bofh> Fiora: coal deposits are plentiful in Northern China and very easy to mine (like, open-pit in Inner Mongolia for instance), and China underwent rapid energy growth about 2 decades ago: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/China_Coal_Production.png
<UmbralRaptor> Sorta like eastern us?
<bofh> In a sense, yeah.
<egg> !wpn Fiora
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<egg> !wpn whitequark
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<egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
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<soundnfury> !wpn egg
* Qboid gives egg a cadmium star
<UmbralRaptor> exp(hermitian goto)
<soundnfury> ... that sounds pretty awesome actually, cadmium stars should totally be a think.
<soundnfury> High metallicity.
<kmath> <FioraAeterna> https://t.co/QyfTxnEmvU
<bofh> Fiora: but no, whitequark is right in that nearly all the bitcoin mining farms use hydroelectric power and not coal (in fact they're often outright built *next to* the power stations in massive farms to minimize transfer losses)
<bofh> (also generally helps that the dams are in comparatively remote places and the land is dirt-cheap there so you can shove a few warehouses of mining ASICs there)
<Fiora> yeah but power is fairly fungible
<Fiora> insomuch as that electricity would likely have gone elsewhere
<Fiora> yes there's transfer losses and such but it's not like someone built a gigawatt dam for bitcoin
<bofh> so the Three Gorges alone generates 22.5GW (so, imagine a little over eleven Hoover dams).
<bofh> and not exactly, but the hydroelectric projects are being disproportionately built near the Tibetan plateau and before the infrastructure to carry that to the populous areas is fully in-place. So in effect at least for the time-being, they kindasorta are.
<bofh> (when you realize mining is also how you launder money out of China w/o hitting official Yuan exchange limits, this makes a lot more sense)
<FluffyFoxeh> bitcoin mining is such a waste of resources
<Fiora> bofh: yeah, of course
* egg stares at Fiora's twitter bio
<egg> okay on my windows laptop the grass radical is shown in 4 strokes for some reason
<egg> (which is probably improper for ja)
<Fiora> is this another CJK unification thing
<egg> Fiora: yup
<whitequark> Fiora: power in CN specifically *not* fungible
<egg> Fiora: atop your cat
<whitequark> is not*
<whitequark> because they don't have a national grid
<bofh> ^
<whitequark> in RU that would have been a better argument although because bitcoin is a very constant load it would just let baseline plants operate at higher levels
<egg> Fiora: I assume you meant to write japanese but of course you can write only plain text in your bio and for some reason my computer decided to show me the grass radical in its HK or TW form on there
<egg> CJKV unification is fun
<Fiora> whitequark: ahhhhhh, i see.
* egg has been driven slightly insane by looking into that this week
<whitequark> FluffyFoxeh: you know what's *actually* a waste of resources? grain imports from South America, ~all of which goes into feeding pigs
<whitequark> because apparently in CN eating pig meat means you're rich
<whitequark> that has an enormous ecological footprint
<FluffyFoxeh> meat is a waste of resources too
<FluffyFoxeh> tbjh
<FluffyFoxeh> tbh
<whitequark> and it's only going to become worse
<whitequark> well no
<Fiora> hey, if you want to poke at the wasteful tuhao habits
<Fiora> there's probably a LOT to go after :P
<whitequark> meat eaten solely as a status symbol is
<bofh> Fiora: yyyyyyyyyyyyyep
<whitequark> Fiora: that is true
<Fiora> s/meat eaten /things/
<egg> Fiora: prefix by the name if you want to substitute in someone else's message
<egg> e.g.,
<egg> Fiora: s/.*/meow/
<Qboid> egg thinks Fiora meant to say: meow
<whitequark> lol
<bofh> lol
<UmbralRaptor> lol
<Fiora> uh... i didn't mean to actually trigger the bot
<Fiora> i was just typing a message
<Fiora> i didn't want to substitute in anyone's message
<egg> ah, sorry
<UmbralRaptor> So, something to make beef more of something eaten at holidays instead of all the time?
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<kmath> <quantian1> @PowerTrades4U @qntm nah it's really straightforward, ?=1, ?= 1/8,?= the smallest positive root of the cubic 512x^3 - 1728x^2 - 1880x + 297
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<UmbralRaptor> egg: time to compare ANBOscope and NAFOscope!
<egg> Fiora: btw I don't remember if I gave you the context for ANBO https://goo.gl/photos/GAEksmuPFPaQJmNv9
<kmath> <innesmck> process tweet https://t.co/rIcBGdyLAG