UmbralRaptor changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> … one of the other grad students just compared me to nomal O_o | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
<AluminumRaptor> adj?
<Qboid> AluminumRaptor: [adj] => ppc_f128
AluminumRaptor is now known as UmbralRaptor
<bofh> lol oops
<bofh> egg|anbo|egg: std::nan("burrito")
* UmbralRaptor x_x
<UmbralRaptor> Oh, right. I haven't eaten today.
<UmbralRaptor> ;choose eat|study
<kmath> UmbralRaptor: eat
<UmbralRaptor> !choose eat|study
<Qboid> UmbralRaptor: Your options are: eat, study. My choice: eat
<UmbralRaptor> Well, if the stochastic electors insist…
<bofh> I agree with both, you should eat.
<UmbralRaptor> But what should I eat?
<soundnfury> FOOF, apparently.
* UmbralRaptor grabs the fluorine tanks, oxygen tanks, Bunsen burners, and nickel catalyst.
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<UmbralRaptor> There's also "build the things simulator" https://twitter.com/NotBrunoAgain/status/931347695133954048
<kmath> <NotBrunoAgain> the only three video game genres: Something Terrible Happened To This Sad Child Something Is Horribly Wrong In Th… https://t.co/sI2FCWwMen
<UmbralRaptor> eg: Sim $foo, and Zachtronics games.
<UmbralRaptor> So, it's 277 K out. There's someone here in a spaghetti top. Are they a robot?
<soundnfury> hmm, I don't think harris falls into any of those categories, not even yours
<UmbralRaptor> Harris?
<soundnfury> I _must_ have mentioned it before... hang on
<kmath> <ztfsurvey> The ZTF survey had its first light! (see Orion in our first image!) Get ready to unveil the transient sky mysteries… https://t.co/ea5SywAam6
<soundnfury> ooh, huntery
<bofh> *googles Spaghetti Top*
<bofh> <shrug> seems reasonable for 277K IMO
<soundnfury> hmm, there is an Italian restaurant called Zizzi, which leads me to the inevitable pun of Zizzi Top.
* soundnfury does not apologise
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<UmbralRaptor> Oh, right. Canadians.
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<bofh> https://twitter.com/bofh453/status/931697680962719744 I wonder how many people will catch this reference
<kmath> <bofh453> Ὁ ἀνεξέταστος βίος οὐ βιωτὸς ἀνθρώπῳ. https://t.co/YXBMpk9heZ
* UmbralRaptor is confused by how much better their night vision is vs other students.
<UmbralRaptor> … am I a cat?
<soundnfury> UmbralRaptor: I don't know. Try testing for chromatic aberration, that should be a clue
<UmbralRaptor> I'm not sure how that would help. We both have refractive components in our eyes.
<soundnfury> if you were a cat you _wouldn't_
* soundnfury points at the /topic
<soundnfury> (zzz for me now, ttyl)
<UmbralRaptor> uh
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn
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<kmath> <ThePatanoiac> “Nowhere near enough limbs.” That negative feedback alone was nearly enough to cancel the release of humanity entirely.
<kmath> <SuperASASSN> Our new grant is here :) https://t.co/kKvtRNTe5B
* UmbralRaptor should try to get some sleep.
<kmath> <EricHolthaus> 2017 wouldn't be complete without a full-fledged tropical storm in Europe—in November. Latest details on the medic… https://t.co/PcABs68HkY
<rqou> egg|anbo|egg: btw, i got my grade back for my robotics course midterm. it was pretty crap, but so was the class average, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<rqou> thanks for whatever help you did provide
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<egg|anbo|egg> ЗТФ
<egg|anbo|egg> wrong keyboard
<egg|anbo|egg> ZTF?
<Qboid> egg|anbo|egg: [ZTF] => Zwicky Transient Factory
<egg|anbo|egg> bofh: uh, are you a robot, a scandinavian, or do you work at Concordia station
<UmbralRaptor> !u ⸎⸙
<Qboid> U+2E0E EDITORIAL CORONIS (⸎)
<Qboid> U+2E19 PALM BRANCH (⸙)
<egg|anbo|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a transpose collapsar
<UmbralRaptor> ⸙ is clearly an elder sign.
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn egg|anbo|egg
* Qboid gives egg|anbo|egg a geobukseon with a DDOS attachment
<UmbralRaptor> !u ?
<Qboid> U+1F439 HAMSTER FACE (?)
<egg|anbo|egg> Ꙩ_ꙩ
* UmbralRaptor gives egg a ?.
* UmbralRaptor gives egg a ?.zip
<egg|anbo|egg> o_O
* egg|anbo|egg stares at backlog
<egg|anbo|egg> UmbralRaptor is a cat?
<UmbralRaptor> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<egg|anbo|egg> is there someone here who isn't though
<UmbralRaptor> Not sure.
* UmbralRaptor grabs a flashlight.
<UmbralRaptor> (via bofh) this seems entirely too relevant to this channel https://twitter.com/ziyatong/status/931691705136377856
<kmath> <ziyatong> Well this is a first. I can honestly say, I've never seen a cat trying to pet a bird. https://t.co/BduMhPhoDI
<egg|anbo|egg> UmbralRaptor: how can I put both a cat and a laptop on my lap at the same time
<UmbralRaptor> egg|anbo|egg: easily enough. But do you want to use both at the same time?
<e_14159> egg|anbo|egg: Put it on your shoulder?
<UmbralRaptor> e_14159: the laptop would be hard to use there.
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<e_14159> UmbralRaptor: But still easier than getting a cat to sit on your shoulder.
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<UmbralRaptor> heh
<egg|anbo|egg> hm the cat is now sitting so I don't need to extend my arms quite as much to type
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<kmath> <geofft> @bofh453 the unexamined BIOS is not worth booting
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<egg|anbo|egg> "AMAZE – short for Additive Manufacturing Aiming Towards Zero Waste and Efficient Production of High-Tech Metal Products" ....
<e_14159> AMAZE: Acronym Manufacturing Aiming towards Zero Effort
<Iskierka> that's 9 extraneous words not part of the acronym of 5. That beats most physicists and telescopes, I think
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<APlayer> Hi!
<kmath> <UCamArchaeology> There's someone for everyone. Spotted in the @britishmuseum staff room. https://t.co/zNxU2azif2
<APlayer> Is this legit?
<bofh> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<egg|anbo|egg> !wpn bofh
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<egg|anbo|egg> !wpn Fiora
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<egg|anbo|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
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<egg|anbo|egg> !wpn whitequark
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<APlayer> !wpn egg
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<kmath> <DesertBus> GOOOOOOD MOOOOORNING DESERT BUS! Day 2 Let's do this! #DB2017 #coffeetime #coffeecoffeecoffee https://t.co/sS7jJkqEXg
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<egg|anbo|egg> Fiora: whitequark: is abbreviating chocolate cake mix a standard thing or are they just being silly https://sci-hub.cc/10.1016/j.pbb.2006.04.010
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<egg|anbo|egg> bofh: uh, I'm not actually surprised? https://twitter.com/bofh453/status/931923749263368193
<kmath> <bofh453> What the actual hell, *nonexistent academic paper* gets cited FOUR HUNDRED TIMES before someone notices it, erm, do… https://t.co/vmp7Z4vAMX
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<egg|anbo|egg> bofh: the fact that it's recent is weirder, but that could trivially happen for a 60s reference (uncheckable)
<egg|anbo|egg> (and who is going to bother checking 19th century references or earlier, even though they're checkable)
<bofh> egg|anbo|egg: I'm honestly more disappointed than anything else.
<kmath> <miishke> @bofh453 I have not met an author, myself included, who has read all references in a published paper. This story re… https://t.co/YtslTGl8Rh
<bofh> Okay, same, but IMHO this is a *problem*.
<egg|anbo|egg> bofh: like I read all references I referenced in my MSc thesis, but I was quite aware that this was unusual (and amused my advisor, because I'd actually print out the letters from Euler to Goldbach or the proceedings of the academy of sciences of st petersburg or whatnot)
<e_14159> egg|anbo|egg: Does Abstract/Conclusion reading count as reading?
<egg|anbo|egg> bofh: it is, but I'd rather people carry over the reference without reading it than do a shallow reference
<egg|anbo|egg> e_14159: yeah
<bofh> Also if you're citing references I do think it's worth at least *trying* to check every reference you cite, since otherwise... how does one tell if the reference is useful or relevant?
<bofh> e_14159: tbh, yes.
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<e_14159> In that case, I haven't read everything we cited. But everything we cited, at least one of the authors did read.
<egg|anbo|egg> bofh: e.g. if I read in a paper "Xyz proved the upper bound of e^(n!) [1] which was improved to log log n by Tuvw [2]", I might not read [1], but if for some reason I mention that bound for a historical perspective I'd cite it, rather than just the paper that cites [1] and [2]
<bofh> first off, I have to giggle at that bound improvement
<egg|anbo|egg> :D
<bofh> Secondly, ehh. I can sort of understand that, but I'd try to at least find and skim the abstract of [1] before citing it, even if it's just for a historical perspective.
<e_14159> "We turned out to accidentally have left several nested for-loops in our code. Removing these improved the performance significantly"
<egg|anbo|egg> bofh: yeah, but that can be hard (because [1] is irrelevant really), e.g. there's actually a paper in my msc thesis refs that I have never found, only a Zbl (and I spent ages looking for the Zbl)
* egg|anbo|egg pokes Nieuw Archief voor Wiskunde with a stick
<bofh> Never been digitized?
<bofh> I've run into that issue a few times, sadly.
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<egg|anbo|egg> bofh: yeah
<egg|anbo|egg> the Zbls were digitized, and that did summarize the proof
<egg|anbo|egg> Zbler?
<egg|anbo|egg> e_14159: how do you abbreviate the plural of Zentralblatt
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* UmbralRaptor wonders how many extragalctic astronomers have actually read Sérsic 1963 (different problem -- how's your Spanish?)
<bofh> (Not very good tbh)
<bofh> http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~pbarfuss/LegendrePolys.pdf hey I know enough French to be able to at least skim this :P
<bofh> seeing it written coſ(x) is disorienting as hell btw
<UmbralRaptor> !u ſ
<Qboid> U+017F LATIN SMALL LETTER LONG S (ſ)
<UmbralRaptor> yeah
<bofh> (Recherches sur L'Attraction des Sphéroïdes Homogènes)
<egg|anbo|egg> bofh: what if you integrate a ſin
<egg|anbo|egg> I like that there's a ligature in ſin
<bofh> huh, so thereis.
<bofh> (honestly Legendre writes papers well)
<egg|anbo|egg> bofh: "un Théorème que M. de la Place a bien voulu me communiquer"
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<egg|anbo|egg> that is an odd way to write that name nowadays
<bofh> I guess with Laplace, Lagrange and Legendre the first bit is just a definite article.
<egg|anbo|egg> sure
<egg|anbo|egg> but nowadays you write that as one word
<egg|anbo|egg> (same in my name fwiw :-p)
<UmbralRaptor> How many articles in d'lambert?
<bofh> Okay, point. And good question UmbralRaptor
<egg|anbo|egg> bofh: UmbralRaptor: so the d' in d'alembert isn't a noble thing, it's part of the name
<egg|anbo|egg> so you say un théorème de d'Alembert
<egg|anbo|egg> whereas you would say, e.g., l'algorithme de Casteljau, not l'algorithme de de Casteljau
<bofh> well "de de" sounds utterly nonsensical tbh.
<e_14159> So does Casteljau, to be fair.
<egg|anbo|egg> bofh: well if De Gaulle had a theorem it would be the théorème de De Gaulle
<egg|anbo|egg> since it's part of the name, rather than a particle
<egg|anbo|egg> bofh: e_14159: it gets worse https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_de_Faget_de_Casteljau
<e_14159> "Sa grand-mère paternelle est Claude Joséphine Jeanne de Jouffroy d'Abbans"
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<egg|anbo|egg> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh a dual potato
<bofh> !wpn egg|anbo|egg
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<egg|anbo|egg> bofh: gotta love those tablets about the delivery of the wrong grade of copper
<egg|anbo|egg> bofh: are there transcripts thereof
<bofh> I still can't get over Ea-Nasir hoarding them
<bofh> the British Museum has images, haven't been able to find a Unicode transcription so far tho.
<bofh> that's a translation :P
<egg|anbo|egg> true
<egg|anbo|egg> bofh: any source for their being other complaint letters though? I can't find them
<egg|anbo|egg> bofh: there are people complaining about comcast in that syle :D
<egg|anbo|egg> bofh: okay the unsettling thing is that now I actually recognize some signs on that transcript
<egg|anbo|egg> help I accidentally learned sumero-akkadian cuneiform
<UmbralRaptor> \o/
<UmbralRaptor> egg|anbo|egg: next time you're in a meeting, take notes in cuneiform.
* egg|anbo|egg not sure about the logistics of hauling wet clay around
* UmbralRaptor was more thinking with a pen, but that would also be amusing.
<egg|anbo|egg> UmbralRaptor: if I'm going to do something with ink why not hieroglyphs
* egg|anbo|egg may have written ??? on a whiteboard at work
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<kmath> <chaeronaea> this is one of my favorite posts please enjoy https://t.co/mtFFFdQFY2
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<UmbralRaptor> Good question.
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<kmath> YouTube - A Pale Blue Dot
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<APlayer> Hi! Ellied: Ping
<bofh> SnoopJeDi: ooh
<APlayer> MOSFET seems to be working, but extremely sluggish. I.e. about 30 seconds to drop Rds from about 16 MOhm to about 10 Ohm
<APlayer> Still can't figure out source and drain pins, too
<APlayer> Huh? No... No, I have no idea what this thing is doing
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<SnoopJeDi> TIL impact drivers are a thing
<egg|anbo|egg> https://twitter.com/FioraAeterna/status/894705181388034048 oh I didn't know you had put clappers in them after all
<kmath> <FioraAeterna> シャリー シャリー シャリー 〜 https://t.co/vC0ahgokyi
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<bofh> TIL vacuum tube in a can is a thing.
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<egg|anbo|egg> bofh: re. the ea-nasir complaint afaict there's just the one tablet about the wrong grade of copper, the others are the weird fanfic thing?
<bofh> egg|anbo|egg: no, there's several originals
<egg|anbo|egg> oh?
<egg|anbo|egg> bofh: any links for the others?
<bofh> few mins
<kmath> <NorthshireBooks> Why not? https://t.co/cGzBaTY0Za
* egg|anbo|egg pokes bofh with a complaint tablet
<UmbralRaptor> egg: were you eggspecting an AIM-4?
<kmath> <TubeTimeUS> canned power tube. https://t.co/5LQJcnn04z
<SnoopJeDi> and so it is
<bofh> egg|anbo|egg: sec these are nontrivial to find
<bofh> http://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details.aspx?objectId=277770&partId=1&searchText=ur+131236&page=1 they're all in the same room so just searching excavation number might be useful, but I can't find them, it's possible they haven't been translated
* bofh punts Babylonian archaeologists
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<egg|anbo|egg> bofh: do you have a source for the existence of the others at least though? because I can't find any besides reddit or tumblr comments
<kmath> <crystalblisters> @FioraAeterna sorry let me put this in fiona-speak https://t.co/KsxgbIBEba
<UmbralRaptor> To be fair, isn't rent in Tokyo cheaper than in SF?
<bofh> egg|anbo|egg: https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/4fqyfq/til_that_there_is_a_4000_year_old_clay_tablet/d2bjord/ yeah I'm starting to wonder the veracity of the whole thing myself.
<bofh> (doesn't mean it isn't true, but I'm not able to find a single bit of supporting evidence and I'll probably have to look up the dig ID, sigh)
<bofh> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ur_1_old_street.png seems to at least show which house it is and the room
<Chessy_> Ellied: Anyway, summary of the day: resistance between pins 2 and 3 is about 16 MOhm without further action. Attaching a negative supply clip to pin 1 makes the resistance gradually, over the course of perhaps 30 or 60 seconds, drop to < 10 Ohm. Resistance between pins 3 and 2 (reversed) seems to be infinity no matter what happens. Behaviour when attaching a positive supply to pin 1 (presumably gate) seems inconsistent and ranges betwee
<Chessy_> Also, I am APlayer, my client is doing weirdness with my nicknames.
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<UmbralRaptor> We need to get BPlayer a bouncer.
<BPlayer> Sorry?
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<BPlayer> And in my case, how would the Bouncer be useful?
<egg|anbo|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
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<UmbralRaptor> BPlayer: less in the way of join/pingout issues. Also, you'd always have scrollback.
<BPlayer> A bouncer would not show the disconnects I experience sometimes?
<UmbralRaptor> Yeah.
<BPlayer> Ah, yes
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn egg|anbo|egg
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<UmbralRaptor> !wpn anbocat
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<BPlayer> I'm sorry for that, it's just that for the last week or so, I've been taking my phone to the basement while I was working on this RPi circuit project. And the connection there is really bad, so I had frequent pingouts, plus it disconnects momentarily whenever I switch from mobile data to WLAN.
<BPlayer> Normally my connection is probably not the best, but definitely not as bad as you saw a few times in the last few days.
<BPlayer> If it ever gets spammy/annoying, highlight me during an online phase, and I will kill my IRC client. Not like I need to be constantly connected while I am doing something else.
<BPlayer> Or, if it gets real bad and I am not watching my highlights, just ban me for a minute, my client will stop reconnecting after it fails three times.
<UmbralRaptor> hah
<BPlayer> (I mean, sure, if it gets /real/ bad, ban me for more than a minute :P)
<bofh> !wpn egg|anbo|egg
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<bofh> !wpn anbocat
* Qboid gives anbocat a self-adjoint thallium interhalogen
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<kmath> <Bodegacats_> https://t.co/LvJqrFQPJI