egg changed the topic of #principia to: READ THE FAQ: http://goo.gl/gMZF9H; The current version is Гельфонд. We currently target 1.8.1, 1.9.1, and 1.10.1. <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly… | <egg> also 4e16 m * 2^-52 is uncomfortably large
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<discord-> C​aptainKeeble. — is it normal that a circulation burn at Venus would take around 10k dV?
<discord-> C​aptainKeeble. — is it normal that a circularization burn at Venus would take around 10k dV? (edited)
<discord-> l​pg. — not with a reasonable transfer
<raptop> Circularizing at what altitude?
<discord-> l​pg. — with a bad one, sure
<raptop> (or sma, whatever)
<discord-> C​aptainKeeble. — at 400km
<discord-> C​aptainKeeble. — and i wanted to make the Ap 60,000 km
<discord-> C​aptainKeeble. — idk, it might of not of been a good transfer
<discord-> l​pg. — my last venus mission was nearly ruined because at the same departure time there were two transfers available, one ~20d faster than the other, but arriving with something like 3km/s extra velocity (so needing ~7km/s to circularize low instead of ~4km). Never even noticed and took the wrong one
<discord-> C​aptainKeeble. — i dont really know how i would get a good transfer
<discord-> C​aptainKeeble. — any tips?
<discord-> l​pg. — I _normally use mechjeb's advanced transfer planner to get a ballpark, so I can tell if the flight plan I come up with is the "right" one. (evidently I was neglectful that time)
<discord-> l​pg. — I _normally_ use mechjeb's advanced transfer planner to get a ballpark, so I can tell if the flight plan I come up with is the "right" one. (evidently I was neglectful that time) (edited)
<discord-> C​aptainKeeble. — i was gonna do that but idk if it would of worked
<discord-> C​aptainKeeble. — now should i set the plotting frame to the Sun? So it looks more like stock KSP?
<discord-> C​aptainKeeble. — or is a bit easier
* raptop puts entirely too much effort into a spreadsheet, and gets that in patched conic Hohmann transfer land, circularizing around Venus should only take 3247 m/s
<raptop> (at 400 km altitude)
<discord-> P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they). — It isn't too much effort until the spreadsheet is more accurate than Principia
<raptop> I suppose with appropriate effort, one could try to capture worst case eccentricity effects
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<_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy synchronize pull request #2844: Remove code duplication - https://git.io/JL5I3
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<_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #2844: Remove code duplication - https://git.io/JL5I3
<_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy pushed 5 commits to master [+0/-0/±14] https://git.io/JL5aJ
<_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy fdd38b5 - Factor replicated code.
<_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy 85a8a13 - Merge branch 'DimensionlessBasis' into ReplicatedCode
<_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy 3c84e73 - Merge remote-tracking branch 'mockingbirdnest/master' into ReplicatedCode
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<discord-> e​gg. — Orbit analysis in the flight plan
<discord-> S​tonesmile. — Would there be a good reason to analyse the orbit before the last manoeuvre? I lean towards no (mostly because of tax forms)
<discord-> e​gg. — for internal purposes in the future (anchoring the manœuvre, +1 orbit, etc.), for the purposes of a short description (shown in the screenshot), yes ; having the full analyser seems confusing, in particular it seems hard to figure out whether you want to look at the analysis of coast #6 or of the final trajectory
<discord-> S​tonesmile. — The example I can think of right now is minimum altitude, for example a phasing orbit in low lunar orbit, where you might have the phasing before the last planned manoeuvre and might tweak it into the ground
<discord-> e​gg. — yeah that’s not orbit analysis, that’s « do I run into the ground in the limited timeframe I’m looking at » ; another problem with full analysis before the end is that I actually extend the trajectory to analyse partial orbits (what orbit would you be on if the next manœuvre didn’t happen), which is incompatible with « do I run into the ground » questions (you might run into t
<discord-> S​tonesmile. — Yeah, the full analysis is indeed not needed, the way it's implemented in the pic above looks good 😀
<discord-> l​pg. — Was support for CoMOffset ever added to the preservation-of-angular-momentum feature?
<discord-> e​gg. — yup
<discord-> e​gg. — and a bugfix in July https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/2650
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<discord-> S​tonesmile. — That was one annoying bug 😒
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<_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #2845: Support for repeated strings in the generator - https://git.io/JL5Q2
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<discord-> R​urouniDonut. — Quick question, will there be a support for 1.11 next release maybe or no?
<_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy reviewed pull request #2845 commit - https://git.io/JL5h0