#principia on 2021-01-09 — irc logs at esper.irclog.whitequark.org

2020-12-16 21:43 egg changed the topic of #principia to: READ THE FAQ: http://goo.gl/gMZF9H; The current version is Гельфонд. We currently target 1.8.1, 1.9.1, and 1.10.1. <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly… | <egg> also 4e16 m * 2^-52 is uncomfortably large

01:22 <discord-> Al2Me6. — Just encountered a Principia crash while reentering. My service module was nearby, undergoing RUD... I suspect that that would be related. Logs are attached.

01:22 <discord-> Al2Me6. — https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480397772248580098/797274089617358889/INFO.20210108-184703.12728.log

01:23 <discord-> lpg. — kindly refer to <https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/wiki/Installing,-reporting-bugs,-and-frequently-asked-questions#reporting-bugs>

01:32 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] al2me6 opened issue #2853: Crash while nearby vessel explodes - https://git.io/JLpdn

01:57 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] al2me6 commented on issue #2853: Crash while nearby vessel explodes - https://git.io/JLpFT

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09:39 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] CindyRIng forked the repository - https://git.io/JLhUB

09:47 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy labeled issue #2853: Crash while nearby vessel explodes - https://git.io/JLpdn

11:13 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #2854: Next release is Gersonides - https://git.io/JLhI5

11:19 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy labeled pull request #2852: KSP 1.11.0, and an ancient bug - https://git.io/JLxQH

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11:55 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy commented on pull request #2854: Next release is Gersonides - https://git.io/JLhtw

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12:49 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy commented on pull request #2852: KSP 1.11.0, and an ancient bug - https://git.io/JLhYv

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14:57 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #2855: Add new entries to the bibliography and use short references uniformly in the code - https://git.io/JLhnJ

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15:29 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy synchronize pull request #2854: Next release is Gersonides - https://git.io/JLhI5

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16:38 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy commented on pull request #2854: Next release is Gersonides - https://git.io/JLh8f

16:40 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy edited pull request #2854: Next release is Gersonides^WGödel - https://git.io/JLhI5

16:42 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #2854: Next release is Gersonides^WGödel - https://git.io/JLhI5

16:43 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] eggrobin closed pull request #2852: KSP 1.11.0, and an ancient bug - https://git.io/JLxQH

16:43 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] eggrobin pushed 3 commits to master [+0/-0/±7] https://git.io/JLh8P

16:43 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] eggrobin 15003ea - KSP 1.11.0, and an ancient bug

16:43 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] eggrobin 52b96b2 - line length

16:43 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] eggrobin 04d0593 - Merge pull request #2852 from eggrobin/1.11.0 KSP 1.11.0, and an ancient bug

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16:43 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #2854: Next release is Gersonides^WGödel - https://git.io/JLhI5

16:43 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy pushed 3 commits to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/JLh8M

16:43 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy a1c3d02 - Next release is Gersonides.

16:43 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy f8a903b - Next release is actually Gödel.

16:43 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy cc26d0f - Merge pull request #2854 from pleroy/Gersonides Next release is Gersonides^WGödel

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17:12 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy created tag 2021011305-Germain - https://git.io/fpDwq

17:12 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy tagged cc26d0f as 2021011305-Germain https://git.io/JLhBG

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17:54 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] Success. #1276 succeeded - https://dev.azure.com/mockingbirdnest/445d7b9d-0318-42e3-857f-b69d40b1ed1b/_build/results?buildId=1276

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19:41 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] eggrobin commented on pull request #2854: Next release is Gersonides^WGödel - https://git.io/JLhzl

22:40 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] eggrobin reviewed pull request #2855 commit - https://git.io/JLhoh

22:51 <discord-> Paculino (ŝi/ri/she/they). — I am going to link in a conversation that everyone thought could be better solved here

22:52 <discord-> Paculino (ŝi/ri/she/they). — https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480397772248580098/797598731209670656/Capture.PNG

22:53 <discord-> (experimentalshells?). — don't tell me that this is on the r/ksp discord

22:53 <discord-> Paculino (ŝi/ri/she/they). — https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480397772248580098/797598908225945640/Capture.PNG

22:53 <discord-> Paculino (ŝi/ri/she/they). — no

22:53 <discord-> Paculino (ŝi/ri/she/they). — no; 3 more snips to post (edited)

22:54 <discord-> Paculino (ŝi/ri/she/they). — https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480397772248580098/797599135590907924/Capture.PNG

22:55 <discord-> Paculino (ŝi/ri/she/they). — https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480397772248580098/797599337525149703/Capture.PNG

22:55 <discord-> Paculino (ŝi/ri/she/they). — https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480397772248580098/797599506933088276/Capture.PNG

22:57 <raptop> Actual data on the Oort cloud is frustratingly limited at this time

22:57 <discord-> Paculino (ŝi/ri/she/they). — https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480397772248580098/797600054642081838/Capture.PNG

22:58 <raptop> To easy answer the initial comment: any reasonably fast interstellar trip is so fast that no one cares about gravity assists aside from eggsploiting compact objects in close orbits

22:59 <raptop> Uh, as best I'm aware there's some terminology on different regions of the oort cloud, but I don't know the details (wrong subfield etc)

22:59 <discord-> egg. — (Not sure why anyone here thinks I am competent with those questions, this is squarely in the realm of astronomy and not even fundamentals of astronomy or numerical astronomy or something where I might know something. Raptop may be able to say useful things though.)

23:00 <discord-> Paculino (ŝi/ri/she/they). — We thought you could tell about the stability

23:01 <raptop> long term stability is a hassle because you need to consider various stellar flybys and galactic tides

23:01 <raptop> So your n-body simulation starts to look uncomfortably like molecular dynamics codes, possibly running a mix of short range and long range forces

23:01 <raptop> IIRC

23:04 <raptop> closer flybys with lower relative speeds and higher mass stars have more effect. I can't say anything useful directly, so would vaguely gesture at the literature. I'm not 100% sure what good serach terms are

23:04 <raptop> *search

23:26 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy synchronize pull request #2855: Add new entries to the bibliography and use short references uniformly in the code - https://git.io/JLhnJ

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23:34 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] eggrobin reviewed pull request #2855 commit - https://git.io/JLhia

23:44 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] eggrobin reviewed pull request #2855 commit - https://git.io/JLhiA

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