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⟨Charzy⟩ So, I'm thinking of using Principia
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⟨Charzy⟩ Am I going to have to deal with satellites nearly falling out of orbit all the time and needing me to manually do station keeping for every single satellite I have active? Because I feel like that would get really old, really fast
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⟨Stonesmile⟩ Orbits around Earth are stable, but the Moon for example is another story; there you have to do station keeping
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⟨Charzy⟩ Is there anything (or even another mod) to help make that less annoying? I have a strong suspicion that having to switch to the same old set of probes every so often to fix their orbits a little bit with the onboard fuel is going to be pretty tedious
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⟨Quadrupole⟩ Check the pinned message for stable orbits around the moon.
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⟨egg⟩ model DOP, require covering some area with some precision with some reliability; by excluding satellites that are too low on the horizon in some locations you should naturally make the player come up with things like QZSS
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⟨egg⟩ (or the GEO components of regional systems, e.g., IRNSS, and the GEO augmentations of some global systems, e.g. 北斗)
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⟨Stonesmile⟩ GPS is likely one of the first things in RP-1 that would use Skopos, since the current contract is *horrible*
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⟨Quadrupole⟩ What is Skopos?
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⟨Stonesmile⟩ An extension to Contract configurator that also builds on Kerbalism. The goal is to give the player a set of requirements that do not enforce orbit parameters or even vessel count
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⟨Stonesmile⟩ So for a GPS contract, the requirement would be coverage and accuracy instead of "place these 24 sats into these orbits"
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⟨Quadrupole⟩ Ensuring LoS to four sats in every single corner of the earth sounds fun
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⟨Quadrupole⟩ Extra fund for keeping LoS of eight sats at your launch site
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⟨Quadrupole⟩ Ensuring LoS (and low DoP) to four sats in every single corner of the earth sounds fun (edited)
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⟨!Kerbinator (UTC+8)!⟩ well contract are often made to be silly in RSS
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⟨egg⟩ honestly at this point, while it arose from kerbalism discussions (with Sir Mortimer) the kerbalism dependency is anecdotal, it’s just for resource consumption I think.
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⟨egg⟩ (which matters a lot for some mission profiles, e.g. radar, but is just one of many concerns in most cases)
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⟨egg⟩ right now I have been poking at having the contract for telecoms, because I think it’s the easiest thing to build : RA provides the parts and a solid antenna framework, no need to do fancy mapping maths like for radar, just « can X talk to Y with bandwidth Z »
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⟨egg⟩ right now I have been poking at having the support for telecoms, because I think it’s the easiest thing to build : RA provides the parts and a solid antenna framework, no need to do fancy mapping maths like for radar, just « can X talk to Y with bandwidth Z » (edited)
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⟨egg⟩ right now I have been poking at building support for telecoms, because I think it’s the easiest thing to build : RA provides the parts and a solid antenna framework, no need to do fancy mapping maths like for radar, just « can X talk to Y with bandwidth Z » (edited)
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⟨Stonesmile⟩ I think @DRVeyl was looking at something similar for a CC extension
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⟨DRVeyl⟩ Not really -- egg's work is what I would point at as a much better way to do it.
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⟨egg⟩ I have been chatting eggstensively with the doctor about σκοπος things though
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⟨DRVeyl⟩ Connectivity to the DSN and a rate requirement for it, sure. Anything more complex or interesting...σκοπος
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[Principia] eggrobin opened pull request #3256: Instant DebugString consistent with operator<< - https://git.io/JyWfR