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<Majiir> I am VITAS?!!
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<Majiir> goddammit
<Majiir> My apologies
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<Unknown601> afternoon
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<VITAS> hi
<Thomas> o/
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<Thomas> o/ RockyTV
<RockyTV> o/
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<SpaceDock> [SpaceDock-Backend] StollD pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v9W0F
<SpaceDock> SpaceDock-Backend/master ad8a48e Dorian Stoll: Recursive map conversion
<SpaceDock> SpaceDock-Backend/master b9c7efd Dorian Stoll: Allow substitution of gameshort and friendly_version for their ID values
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<Thomas> VITAS: yay, got the "Ordering pizza..." loading tip :D
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<VITAS> in?
<VITAS> speaking of loading: if altering the adressbar url via js is a thing it would be nice to investigate soem sort of intelligent prefetching
<Thomas> VITAS: SpaceLink.dll + KSP
<VITAS> maybe even based on other users, last visits of that user,device, -....
<VITAS> ahh
<VITAS> you should make a version ofr other mods to include
<Thomas> I made one :P Just include the dll
<VITAS> so it can be spread by mod authors wanting to spread spacedock over curse
<VITAS> include in the file or include as in programming?
<Thomas> Just put the dll in their distribution zip
<Thomas> or maybe even include the cs file directly in their dll, if they want that
<VITAS> hmm how do we specificly address mod authors?
<VITAS> we cant put that into the ksp forums
<VITAS> noone realy reads kspmodders
<Thomas> Why cant we put it into the ksp forums?
<VITAS> spacedock is more for endusers (i will post it there but adress users)
<VITAS> because squad has a contract with curse
<Thomas> VITAS: Following that logic, they would have banned us from the forums completely
<VITAS> and i dont want them to have to decide if they tollerate that or delete the thread
<VITAS> because they will remove it else they surly get problems with curse
<VITAS> no because we arent endoresed by squad
<Thomas> Yeah, but sooner or later it will end up on the forums anyway
<VITAS> and we dont change any contract relevant things
<VITAS> maybe but it will be removed im quite sure
<Thomas> when the first one cries "did squad officially switched to spacedock?!?!"
<VITAS> because im certain that the link is part of the contract
<Thomas> Yes, but they will know the mod was made by us
<Thomas> So thats the same result
<VITAS> yes
<VITAS> but the same way i can publish stuff on sd without squad making problems
<VITAS> and having problems if i would do the same on the forums
<VITAS> i can post it on sd but not on the forums
<VITAS> they cant censore what isnt theirs but they can enforce their will on their platform
<VITAS> im sure curse will ask them: whats that and please remove
<VITAS> and i dont want them in that situation :)
<VITAS> thats why i want to use ways to publish this without the forums help
<VITAS> we could put it on SD make a description section for users and bekow one for devs
<VITAS> and i can feature it
<Thomas> You can do what you want with it :)
* Thomas gave away the rights
<RockyTV> is SpaceLink against SQUAD's rules?
<VITAS> btw css doesnt load on my desktop most of the times :/
<RockyTV> because if not maybe DMP could ship it :)
<Thomas> RockyTV: Not against their rules, but its very likely that it is against their contract with curse
<RockyTV> would they ask it to be removed?
<VITAS> hmm i dont se why it is but it could cause curse to call them
<Thomas> Hmm, actually, I should read what the eula says
<RockyTV> pretty sure the old dev team would allow it
<VITAS> i would publish it first and if darklight is ok with it you can include it a week later
<RockyTV> "delayed april fools"
<VITAS> not april fools because im serious
<Thomas> k, EULA says nothing about this, so we would be safe
<VITAS> if new players are directed to curse to only find old versions of mods at best it isnt a great advertisement for the modding community and the mod authors whos old versions are there
<VITAS> and it could give spacedock more traffic
<VITAS> (not that i need it but hey i enjoy watching bandwith and traffic graphs)
<Thomas> Actually, the addon rules on the forums dont forbid it, so squad couldnt harm us if we posted it there :)
<Thomas> But I get what you meant with curse
<VITAS> yes but i dont want to cause a potentioly problematic situation
<VITAS> yes
<VITAS> im even prepared to pull the plug on that mod in general if good reasons are presentet to me by squad
<VITAS> also cant creat mods because sd css isnt loading
<VITAS> and maybe js isnt too
<VITAS> getting 403?
<VITAS> strange
<Thomas> Its loading for me
<VITAS> yes i might have blocked something or messed up routing
* VITAS has vpns to the server and tests site blocking with his ip so there can be something left
<VITAS> deny from .pppoe.wtnet.de <- :D
<VITAS> aha
<VITAS> better
<VITAS> and wow does the css and js make loading slow
<VITAS> what was the license name?
<VITAS> and did you make a newer versiona fter including the license?
<Thomas> VITAS: I reuploaded the zip file with the license included
<Thomas> The license name is WTFPL
<Thomas> (I can change it to MIT if you dont like the idea of throwing away all copyright and rights)
<VITAS> its your code
<VITAS> only concern is: someone might change the link to some problematic site and redistribute that under the same name
<Thomas> Yeah, but we cant prevent that, if we want that other modders redist it
<VITAS> yes but cant we do something like: you have to rename the file, ingame menu name and the modname if you change the link?
<Thomas> Ingame menu name?
<VITAS> if thats possible
<Thomas> There isnt even an ingame menu
<VITAS> there is the mods link
<Thomas> Anyway, a self written license is something I dont really like
<Thomas> VITAS: Ah, yeah
<VITAS> hmm ok i fear the russians and vieatnamese
<VITAS> but they dont care about licenses and law
<VITAS> so yes
<VITAS> useless
<VITAS> hmm do i want the thumbnail to look official?
<Thomas> Make it a comic pizza
<VITAS> can you write something up i can put into the description?
<Thomas> "Mod that redirects the Addons & Mods Link in the main menu to SpaceDock. If you like SpaceDock and want to spread it further, feel free to include and distribute this plugin in your own mod"
<VITAS> how to install?
<Thomas> "Copy the .dll file into the GameData folder"
* VITAS tries to convince his computer that drag&drop realy is a thing
<VITAS> sourcecode link?
<Thomas> Its in the zip
<VITAS> up