09:19 <darsie> So I accidently used a LF+Ox tank for my Nerv and had too little dv. Should I improvise and let Jeb finish the trip back on EVA or fix the rocket and fly again?

09:21 <Mat2ch> That depends on your playstyle. Do you like to cleanup the mistakes or redo them?

09:22 <darsie> No, but you had troubles with your Tylo mission, so I wanted to help you by showing you what I'd come up with.

09:22 <Mat2ch> :)

09:22 <darsie> :)

09:23 <Mat2ch> I'm doing the ISRO thing now.

09:23 <Mat2ch> Well, it's not done yet

09:23 <darsie> That still leaves me floating.

09:23 <Mat2ch> but it's the way I want to go.

09:23 <Mat2ch> Just go back and redo the mission.

09:23 <darsie> ok :)

09:24 <Mat2ch> If I make such a mistake I go back and correct it. It's clearly an oversight.

09:31 <darsie> Hehe, by removing the Ox I gained ~900 m/s in the VAB.

09:32 <darsie> Unfortunately there's no LF only adapter.

09:32 <darsie> Mk3 to 2.5 m

09:33 <Mat2ch> yeah, some parts are just inconsistant :(

09:35 <darsie> Maybe the LF tanks are mostly for aviation and such an adapter isn't needed there.

09:46 <Mat2ch> well, I can switch between LF and LFO on some tanks. Not sure if that is stock or a fuel switcher mod.

09:49 <Pinkbeast> I don't think stock has any fuel switching (but ICBW)

09:59 <Mat2ch> It's so neatly integrated, it feels like stock and only works for switching between LF and LFO

10:21 <packbart> if you use the Station Parts mod, you've got at least the B9 switcher mod

10:22 <packbart> but I vaguely remember switchable stock tanks. but that's not plausible, so could be memory noise

10:23 <packbart> I started modding early and don't really remember stock KSP :)

10:26 <sandbox> I had a dream that I only ever used 2 mods but I can't remember exactly which

10:27 <packbart> well, it started out with KER and MechJeb and grew a bit from there

10:30 <sandbox> heh I remember the streams with MechJeb and Capt'n Skunky and the outrage it caused at the time xD

10:31 <sandbox> he just couldn't resist exploding in rage whenever anyone brought it up

10:31 <sandbox> so people kept winding him up

10:35 <Mat2ch> lol

10:36 <Mat2ch> "using MechJeb is not playing it right! It's cheating!"

10:36 <Mat2ch> I remember the discussion :D

10:36 <sandbox> 12 years ago probably

10:37 <sandbox> he's still on reddit

11:11 <darsie> https://0x0.st/XY05.png I pulled the port and engine apart a bit for realism, because IRL stages aren't attached at the rocket nozzle bell, but with the interstage fairing. Out of habit I ditched the fairing for efficiency before circularization, but in this case it looks silly. I regret it, but not enough to redo the ascent.

11:14 <darsie> Multi burn departures are tedious and inaccurate.

11:14 <darsie> I guess there's a mod for that.

11:19 <Mat2ch> there's node splitter mod, but it makes the burn also inaccurate.

11:19 <Mat2ch> Leaving 30 mins early or late results in a different trajectory.

12:02 <Pinkbeast> I've had satisfactory results with node splitter. Also unsatisfactory ones. What I don't know is how to get one or the other :-/

12:22 <Mat2ch> I'm not sure if the node splitter mod is the right thing here. Best would probably be your own numerical approach

12:37 <sandbox> 1337

12:52 <FLHerne> .outcome add Jeb is thrown off the flight for attempting to smuggle snacks, saving his life.

12:52 <LunchBot> Added outcome: Jeb is thrown off the flight for attempting to smuggle snacks, saving his life.

13:10 <sandbox> !mission

13:10 <LunchBot> You set out on your mission with nefarious porpoises in mind. You are banned from proposing new missions.

17:52 <xxcoder> ;mission

17:52 <LunchBot> You try to integrate BD Armory and Dark Multiplayer. You are exiled to a forest where you learn what the fox says.

17:53 <xxcoder> yeah I dont know what those are lol

17:53 <xxcoder> I guess fox will teach me what those are'

17:54 <Althego> fox says hehehehe

17:54 <Althego> at least when they are happy

19:08 <Deddly> That has to be a reference to https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE&pp=ygUVd2hhdCBkb2VzIHRoZSBmb3ggc2F5

19:08 <Althego> yes

19:10 <xxcoder> interesting

19:12 <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwtaekgVt9Q

19:12 <Mat2ch> that is 11 years old?!

19:12 <Althego> Hehehe's from Finnegan Fox

19:13 <xxcoder> certainly looks happy

19:14 <Althego> ksp 1.0 was about released 9 years ago

19:15 <xxcoder> foxes get egged https://youtu.be/z8W0LSarQ8s

19:16 <Althego> the simple explanation is, foxes dont have a single characteristic sound, and they are also not domesticated, so people never bothered to come up with a sound for them

19:17 <xxcoder> pretty amazing. so many different foxes in that video

19:18 <Althego> there are other animals there too

19:18 <Althego> havent watched it for a while, there was a coyote too

19:20 <xxcoder> gonna love how foxes run after getting egg

20:14 <raptop> At least in some cultures, foxes supposedly say "kon kon". The ones around here mostly let out unearthly screams

20:44 <FLHerne> in English it's usually "yip"

20:44 <FLHerne> which is certainly one of the things they say

20:57 <sandbox> yip yip yip

20:57 <sandbox> that's martian