UmbralRaptor changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> … one of the other grad students just compared me to nomal O_o | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
<bofh>
Ahh.
* egg|zzz|egg
comes back to the conclusion that all IRC clients suck
<bofh>
egg|zzz|egg: you're not wrong
<egg|zzz|egg>
(especially from the nontrivial input method point of view, e.g., dead keys on windows)
<egg|zzz|egg>
(also hexchat manages to screw with copy-paste)
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<egg|zzz|egg>
(but it least it has font fallback)
<egg|zzz|egg>
(but it interacts in awful ways with selection)
<egg|zzz|egg>
(and let's not talk about its bidi support)
<soundnfury>
egg|zzz|egg: IRC clients shouldn't be _involved_ in input methods, or fonts, because they should run in _terminals_
<soundnfury>
(although yes, if your terminal supports bidi text, my client won't understand such things and will probably get confused)
<egg|zzz|egg>
(let's not get to the bidi support in terminals either, it's a silly place)
<kmath>
<FioraAeterna> who the heck called it "replacing all existing computer arithmetic with a single universal number format" and not "e pluribus unum"
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<awang>
More images of my ballistic lunar transfer, now including the earth-centered sun aligned frame of reference:
<kmath>
<AthertonKD> The premise was cruelty. The ideology is cruelty. The big philosophical underpinning is cruelty. The policy is cruelty. The point is cruelty
<soundnfury>
UmbralRaptor: …so long as my muzzle discipline is fine, does that matter?
<UmbralRaptor>
Well, yes. But I was trying to so something with the pun?
<soundnfury>
yeah, it was good enough.
<soundnfury>
I just wanted to try and keep it going
<soundnfury>
!wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid
gives UmbralRaptor a projective life
<bofh>
UmbralRaptor: :/
<bofh>
UmbralRaptor: sadly, far more evergreen than it should be.
<UmbralRaptor>
soundnfury: Some restrictions apply. Life not available on all bases.
<UmbralRaptor>
Good feature of Oreo: my Twitter display name is no longer half tofu.
<UmbralRaptor>
THE EGYPTIAN-AKKADIAN CURSE HAS BEEN LIFTED FROM THE BLACK SLABS!!!
<UmbralRaptor>
!u ?
<Qboid>
U+1F728 ALCHEMICAL SYMBOL FOR VERDIGRIS (?)
<UmbralRaptor>
^also no longer tofu.
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<Ellied>
tofu for me. I dun geddit, I have Noto installed.
<Ellied>
bofh: I use eduroam as my main network when available, despite both universities I've recently attended making a particular remark in their policy that eduroam is NOT to be used by local students while on campus (???)
<FluffyFoxeh>
what is it for then
<FluffyFoxeh>
use when you go to another university campus? why would I ever do that :)
<FluffyFoxeh>
well I guess there are two universities in my city so it's not totally inconceivable
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* egg|zzz|egg
just crashed visual studio by pasting 陈景润 ??? Ꙩ_ꙩ
<bofh>
egg|zzz|egg: that's a nice transfer orbit, yep
<Ellied>
my toughbook's RS232 interface supports a minimum baud rate of 2, apparently.
<Iskierka>
and what second interface do you jave to verify that?
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: blarg I'm confused, the chunk of the chronicles of early kings here uses the sumerogram for bani in enlil-bani, but those etcsl texts are transcribed as ba-ni https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erra-imitti ?
* egg|zzz|egg
can't find any actual drawings of the relevant tablets >_<
<bofh>
egg|zzz|egg: sec, let me ask someone I know that actually researches Akkadian
<bofh>
Iskierka: I'm pretty sure that for a baudrate of 2, you could verify that with a voltmeter and pencil/paper.
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: oh, you know people who do that, nice :-)
<UmbralRaptor>
Ellied: At the risk of being a stereotype, install unifont?
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: do you think we can lure them in here with ??pics
<UmbralRaptor>
!u ??
<Qboid>
U+12293 CUNEIFORM SIGN SA (?)
<Qboid>
U+12000 CUNEIFORM SIGN A (?)
<UmbralRaptor>
SA-A = cat?
<bofh>
that reminds me, I need to render NotoSansCuneiform to a bitmap and put the BDF of it somewhere.
<bofh>
egg|zzz|egg: know any other good Cuneiform fonts? I only know of Noto and the George Doulos cuneiform font (I forget the name offhand)
<bofh>
it could be b/c Noto is the early Sumerian forms and that site is using Akkadian, I know I've had people bitch to me about how there's no good Akkadian cuneiform font out there.
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: yeah, afaict all the fonts are for early/monumental inscriptions and you're screwed if you want to write akkadian (or hittite or whatever)
<Iskierka>
cuneiform seems really inefficient
<bofh>
egg|zzz|egg: well okay if you want to write Hittite you have more than two problems
<bofh>
egg|zzz|egg: to paraphrase Jay-Z
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: ?
<bofh>
Hittite cuneiform is apparently an utter unholy mess.
<bofh>
that makes negative sense as a writing system
<bofh>
(again - I'm sketchy on the exact details, but apparently it's orders of magnitude worse than Sumerograms are)
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<UmbralRaptor>
bofh: negative sense as in worse than Tangut?
<bofh>
first off, forgot NickServ is a thing I should identify to.
<bofh>
secondly, hm. that's a tough question to answer.
<hattivat>
you could even add a second panel where the guy, after having already chosen the Latin alphabet, abandons the rational Southwestern-Slavic system (č, š, etc.) in favor of a nonsense amount of made-up digraphs
<kmath>
<ObservatoryCats> #ArchaeoCats Little Bougainvillea (later renamed Dali by her kind US embassy adopters!) came to us running from a p… https://t.co/EM7kdF2xEX
<hattivat>
after these two you should already be searching for more videos of him on your own, without any further prodding from me
<kmath>
<YBeletsky> Unexpected #visitor at #night - a small a cute #owl just landed next to our camera under the #Moon at… https://t.co/VknMFuOmnd
<bofh>
hattivat: I mean Czech even has ř but no, Polish has to go with rz. Which collapses to the same sound as ż, I suppose b/c a zz digraph would be too nonsensical. But then why not do like, ṡ and ċ? ffs, Polish.
<hattivat>
bofh: yeah, exactly
<bofh>
hattivat: the Polish alphabet just makes no goddamn sense, tbh.
<hattivat>
well, it makes more sense than English, at least ;d
<hattivat>
and French, too
<hattivat>
but yeah, in comparison to most Latin-writing languages, it's a mess
<hattivat>
it also has a interesting (although of course I'm not qualified to judge it) hypothesis on how Sumerian gradually arose from simpler to more complex words
<hattivat>
and a lexicon with words grouped according to this view
<egg|nomz|egg>
>_< cldi reminds me of cldr
<egg|nomz|egg>
!acr -add:CLDI Cuneiform Digital Library Institute
<Qboid>
egg|nomz|egg: I added the explanation for this acronym.
<hattivat>
well, internet 1.0, man
<hattivat>
at least it has useful information, and a lot of it, unlike most of these new-fangled websites
<kmath>
<whitequark> I don't know who showed me this wonderful story about Sumerian, academia, and love, but it's wonderful https://t.co/EK252iMGO0
<APlayer>
Guys, I've finally made it! I managed to get a photo of Andromeda! :-)
<egg|nomz|egg>
\o/
<hattivat>
congrats
<bofh>
nice.
<APlayer>
It is underexposed and there is some star trailing because I neither have a proper telescope nor any sort of tracking equipment, but I ramped up my ISO and got quite a few frames. So I should be able to stack it halfway decently and perhaps just make it brighter
<bofh>
egg|nomz|egg: ahh.
egg|nomz|egg is now known as egg|zzz|egg
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: which means also that the title of the story, ?, does look like three stars in the cuneiform of that period
<egg|zzz|egg>
which is nice, it's a cute glyph
<egg|zzz|egg>
haha when I type that in my address bar it autocompletes to UmbralRaptor's twitter :-p
<APlayer>
egg: So this is an actual character used in some language?
* UmbralRaptor
transforms APlayer into AkkadianPlayer.
<APlayer>
What's that? :D
<hattivat>
egg|zzz|egg: I'll read it, I promise, but probably not today, I have several so many tabs with long-form stuff already open, life is too short :<
<hattivat>
especially these last few weeks when in addition to being our data engineer, data scientist, main backend dev, and part-time sysadmin, on top of all of this am I become recruiter, the destroyer of hopes
<hattivat>
APlayer: it seems in my absence there was a profound lack of linguistics of this channel if you are not familiar with these
<hattivat>
yes, these are actual characters of the cuneiform script, the first form of writing, ancient Mesophotamia (modern Iraq)
<hattivat>
and Akkadian is an ancient Semitic language, basically a very old cousin of Hebrew and Arabic
<APlayer>
Seems like a very useful thing to have in modern Unicode protocols
<hattivat>
apparently there's enough space for a literal shit emoji there, so I don't think adding cuneiform will hurt ;)
<e_14159>
hattivat: Especially since it actually renders as shit in the address bar.
<e_14159>
Oh, too late.
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<hattivat>
my ISP is doing everything in its power to convince me to switch this month
<FluffyFoxeh>
please stop giving me money
<FluffyFoxeh>
I beg you
<egg|zzz|egg>
hattivat: you missed <e_14159> hattivat: Especially since it actually renders as shit in the address bar.
<hattivat>
egg|zzz|egg: already checked it on that handy archive, but thanks anyway :)
<egg|zzz|egg>
oh yeah, the Thomas-whitequark logs are good
<UmbralRaptor>
"Kittens vibrate, so they are blurry, everyone knows this."
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<bofh>
hattivat: lucky you, with a choice of ISPs.
<hattivat>
bofh: I know what you mean, Europe generally is better in this regard, but my particular city is not so lucky - one ISP is close enough to being a monopoly to be the 'default' that you can expect to inherit in any rental
<hattivat>
so, you have a choice, but not in every area, and it's a hassle to take advantage of it
<kmath>
<cstross> @rebelrebel62 @1aprildaniels @charliejane I nearly wrote a dystopian novel back in 2015. (Did a quarter.) Am now re… https://t.co/EoBc5tqK09
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<egg|zzz|egg>
hattivat!
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: unfortunately I can't really find any good cuneiform version names for principia
<egg|zzz|egg>
(no names of mathematicians)
<bofh>
egg|zzz|egg: wait, do you now need semantic difference to land in Unicode as a character?
<bofh>
what were famous Sumerian, Akkadian or Hittite mathematicians anyhow?
<bofh>
there had to have been some.
<UmbralRaptor>
Frustratingly, wilipedia only seems to have the names of kings.
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: well yes, the ligatures are there for compatibility reasons