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<kmath> <busted_mountain> Hey you know what's neat I fit into a costume meant for a 5 year old https://t.co/4W16ANTK6d
<kmath> <codl> ah the 10 genders, binary and non binary
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<awang> Anyone here read through the Excel team AMA?
<SnoopJeDi> Didn't know one was happening. Was it just sustained sobbing for a few hours?
<awang> I think it was surprisingly civil
<awang> Good amount of bug reports there though
<UmbralRaptor> The biggest thing "wrong" with Excel is that you can apparently try to use it like a low budget version of Access.
<SnoopJeDi> Access...now there is a pile.
<awang> There was actually a request on the AMA asking the team if they could put up a warning or something if a user was trying to do Access in Excel
<UmbralRaptor> heh
<SnoopJeDi> if you're trying to Access period, the PC should just reach out of the screen and smack you with a decent DB
<awang> "Hey guys, request from IT department here. We have "wonderful" users who try to perform an operation on hundreds of thousands of cells at a time then complain that their computer is too slow when their i7's with 16 gigs of RAM and SSD's chug for a bit trying to make sense of the idiotic request they just made of Excel which is far out of the bounds of what Excel is really meant to do. Instead of
<awang> slowing to a crawl, when users get past the point of doing something reasonable, can you just have a pop-up that reaches out of their screen, bitch-slaps them, takes their mouse, opens up MS Access, and tells them to stop trying to run a database out of Excel and then blaming the hardware for their idiocy? Thanks."
<SnoopJeDi> Any VLOOKUP angst?
<awang> I didn't see any
<awang> But I wasn't looking too closely
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<UmbralRaptor> "No vision tests after all.  Our laser isn't powerful enough to mess your eyes up." \o/
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<Ellied> yaaay
<Ellied> re: "optical I think" - AIUI all things that sit on a bench and are called "lasers" by experimental physicists are in the optical range. If it's in the microwave region they'll call it a maser, if it's in the x-ray they'll say "FEL" or "synchrotron" or whatever it happens to be
<Ellied> I mean I guess if you have an actual free-electron laser that sits on a bench I wouldn't put it past people who use it to call it "the laser"
* whitequark sees a wild rqou
<rqou> hi whitequark
<Ellied> hey rqou, do you by chance know someone who goes by rqu on the 'net?
<rqou> no?
<Ellied> I just met him IRL and was momentarily confused between your username and his, and he mentioned knowing about (presumably) you, but I forget if he said he knew you
<Ellied> guess not, nevermind
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<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn whitequark
* Qboid gives whitequark a bow mathematician
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<kmath> <FakeUnicode> ˳ₒ∘ᵒ°˚˚°ᵒ∘ₒ˳˳ₒ∘ᵒ°˚˚°ᵒ∘ₒ˳˳ₒ∘ᵒ°˚˚°ᵒ∘ₒ˳˳ₒ∘ᵒ°˚˚°ᵒ∘ₒ˳˳ₒ∘ᵒ°˚˚°ᵒ∘ₒ˳˳ₒ∘ᵒ°˚˚°ᵒ∘ₒ˳˳ₒ∘ᵒ°˚˚°ᵒ∘ₒ˳˳ₒ∘ᵒ°˚˚°ᵒ∘ₒ˳˳ₒ∘ᵒ°˚˚°ᵒ∘ₒ˳˳ₒ∘ᵒ°˚˚… https://t.co/W5S2oqHBx6
<FluffyFoxeh> evil
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<kmath> <skrutsick> @joshtpm @originalgriz Yeah, good thing. https://t.co/84qtoIIQMD
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<Iskierka> this is going waaay back because I just read a thing that reminded me, but SnoopJeDi: when you say clickers as a terrible idea for improving lectures, do you mean a system where students have to log in and identify themselves, and their answers to it actually count towards credit?
<Iskierka> because we have a "clicker" system but it's just "log in if you want, no identification required, we're just doing this to get a feel for understanding on key points"
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<UmbralRaptor> Lots of gas/ice giants, and spaced out -- more like our solar system in positioning than a Kepler one.
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<UmbralRaptor> …paywalled and not on arXiv? ???
<egg|work|egg> UmbralRaptor: what about the diapsid
<egg|work|egg> !kd next
<Qboid> egg|work|egg: ID: 12 | Name: 무궁화 5A호/Falcon 9 v1.2 | Time: 2017-10-30 19:34:00 | Unixtime: 1509392040 | Left: 11d 6h 58m 18s
<Qboid> egg|work|egg: Description: A Falcon 9 v1.2 will launch the Spacebus-4000B2-based 무궁화 5A호 (http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/koreasat-5a.htm) from Kennedy Space Center LC-39A into GEO for 케이티샛.
* UmbralRaptor stares blankly at the hangul.
<UmbralRaptor> egg|work|egg: well, if anything I should be focusing on QM homework.
<bofh> heh.
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* UmbralRaptor ? off by one column errors in reading bus schedules.
<bofh> stabbity
<UmbralRaptor> "Mason Alert: This message initiates the 10:19 a.m. voluntary earthquake drill and Mason Alert test. Drill ends at 10:30 a.m. See email for more information."
<UmbralRaptor> okay…
<bofh> "voluntary earthquake drill"?
<bofh> so ignoring it is perfectly acceptable?
<bofh> :P
<UmbralRaptor> We're farther from any faults in DC than in Springfield (MO)
<UmbralRaptor> right?
<bofh> I *think so*, yes.
<bofh> https://mobile.twitter.com/IBJIYONGI/status/921016353406029826 oh cool, I am so glad I am refusing to deal with them in any capacity anymore.
<kmath> https://twitter.com/IBJIYONGI/status/921016353406029826 <IBJIYONGI> @APSphysics They have almost $10 million of our membership money invested in a fund run by white nationalists.… https://t.co/Hkpq0oqa4F
<bofh> egg|work|egg: https://www.google.com/doodles/s-chandrasekhars-107th-birthday I don't understand why the hell this google doodle's reach is so weird
<bofh> like it seems to exclude most of Europe & also Canada
<bofh> and Mexico???
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<UmbralRaptor> Huh, one of Chandrasekhar's doctoral advisors was Eddington.
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<UmbralRaptor> Also, it must have been annoying to have a 60+ year career and be known for something you did while commuting to grad school.
<egg|work|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a Hamiltonian error which strongly resembles a porpoise
<UmbralRaptor> The error is that the porpoise is not Hermetian or unitary.
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn egg
* Qboid gives egg an involutory 555 timer
<UmbralRaptor> bofh: also AAAAAAAAAA at APS funding.
<kmath> <AAS_Policy> Interested in a Great Observatory? Two IR channels, trailing Earth orbit, history of discovery. Could be yours!… https://t.co/pPjEf8r7AE
* Iskierka sets google results on fire
<Iskierka> I don't want to know what tethering is, or how to do it! I searched "remember setting" because it periodically unsets itself and I want to stop that, I know exactly what it does and how!
<kmath> <jakelikesonions> Jogging https://t.co/bHXQMJvCQL
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<bofh> https://mobile.twitter.com/crampell/status/920686942580346880 I... speechless. Bank of America is satan.
<kmath> https://twitter.com/crampell/status/920686942580346880 <crampell> BofA downgrades Chipotle, says the chain is paying employees too much. https://t.co/Zt6foT1r2D
<egg|work|egg> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh a californium dip pen
<egg|work|egg> !wpn Iskierka
* Qboid gives Iskierka an expander Bussard classmethod
<egg|work|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor an actinium torch
<egg|work|egg> fr
<egg|work|egg> uh
<egg|work|egg> !wpn
* Qboid gives egg|work|egg an avalanche voulge
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<APlayer> Ellied: While I remember... Thanks a huge lot for the circuit diagram you made and uploaded for me. I have saved it on my desktop, so you may take it down whenever you feel like it occupies unnecessary space or whatever.
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<egg|afk|egg> !wpn Fiora
* Qboid gives Fiora an ill-conditioned Bessel snake
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<egg> !wpn whitequark
* Qboid gives whitequark a Teller-Ulam DDOS
<egg> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh a Müller LED/astronomer hybrid
<egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a monad
<bofh> goddamnit, ill-conditioned Bessel * brings back bad memories of April
<bofh> which, well, let's just say that Bessel f'ns are all pretty goddamn ill-conditioned around their zeroes.
<egg> :D
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* APlayer starts ordering the MOSFETs on mouser... Total item price: 0.57€.
* APlayer looks at the shipping cost... Total price: 20€
<APlayer> Considering they could both be shipped within a small letter (in Germany, classified as < 2g), this price does seem suspicious
<egg> !wpn NomalRaptor
* Qboid gives NomalRaptor a bismuth router
* NomalRaptor kraks the router, and spills packets everywhere.
<kmath> https://twitter.com/Clazzaranius/status/920928083967799296 <Clazzaranius> Here's the final translation. This has been a really fun journey, and I can't wait to show you what I'm working on… https://t.co/ai7tIiUYav
<egg> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh an identity gluon/denormal hybrid
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<NomalRaptor> hypothesis: in order to teach Quantum Mechanics, one must study Physics in a Warsaw Pact country.
<bofh> NomalRaptor: IME, this is strangely accurate.
<egg> !seen Sarbian
<Qboid> egg: I haven't seen the user Sarbian yet.
<egg> Iskierka: um
<egg> I have questions
<egg> NomalRaptor: so if you know where the cat is... https://twitter.com/Newpa_Hasai/status/921092266030260225
<kmath> <Newpa_Hasai> @bofh453 Yep! In this case, we were looking at relative probability of an energy eigenstate, given a perfectly known position.
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<Iskierka> Don't cage an animal that can crack anything short of an acacia nut in thin plastic?
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<egg> NomalRaptor: particle-in-a-box ^
<NomalRaptor> egg: the cat's momentum seems to be unconstrained.
<egg> NomalRaptor: bofh: can I say something about the momenta of the type I and II cats from that, https://i.imgur.com/pg176y4.png
<egg> synapsid in a terrarium
<egg> also a diapsid
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<Iskierka> by their powers combined, they are ... triapsid in a terrarium
* Iskierka hides
<bofh> LOL
<bofh> https://mobile.twitter.com/diodebot/status/921126454158651393 dangit that's where my Lagrangian went.
<kmath> https://twitter.com/diodebot/status/921126454158651393 <diodebot> exploding Lagrangian-containing unipolar diode
<kmath> <Blouchtika> Et comme disait Gandalf en le jetant dans le feu, l'Anneau ne tait rien. https://t.co/P8PZuWfDFl
<egg> bofh: also the reply reminds me of the treacherous correspondence between french and english for metallurgic terms: quenching = trempe (lit. "dipping"), tempering = revenu (lit. "come back"), annealing = recuit (lit. "recooking")
<egg> bofh: and as you might expect this always gets mistranslated, either with trempe for tempering, or swapping revenu and recuit
<bofh> heh.
<bofh> ROFL
<bofh> OOPS
<egg> ?
<egg> bofh: in fact that french wikipedia article does not contain the word annealing
<bofh> so I'm mostly just giggling at the joke
<egg> bofh: yes, the mathematica is in french
<kmath> <BabelStone> 450 years of Anglo-Saxon typographic tradition meticulously documented by myself and @Evertype in… https://t.co/HRGoOakAQh
<bofh> Huh.
<bofh> I completely missed that tweet.
<bofh> egg: okay, I think I actually understand all of that now.
<kmath> <gravislizard> metalworkers spent 150 years soaking steel in piss before anyone tried anything else and another hundred before any… https://t.co/daOT9NS7X7
<egg> Ꙩ_ꙩ
<egg> do I want to know more about the "accidentally"
<bofh> https://twitter.com/CastIrony/status/921051579272241152 apparently he threw the steel out the window and it landed in a piss vat.
<kmath> <CastIrony> @SuddenlyPaulP @gravislizard @Hbomberguy The same book actually contains the story: https://t.co/NpQPddB3B6
<bofh> egg: long S looks weird btw
<bofh> egg: I keep thinking of half an integral sign.
<egg> bofh: well in italics it looks like an entire integral sign
<egg> an integral integral sign?
<bofh> basically.
<egg> I ſhould ſet up a keyboard layout ſo I can type ſome of thoſe nice letters
<egg> ;miſſion
<kmath> egg: You attach an afterburner to the nozzle of your rocket, hoping that it will make the rocket go faster. The survivors explode, emitting all kinds of life-giving radiation.
<egg> moſt ſtrange
<egg> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh a ⚛
<egg> !wpn NomalRaptor
* Qboid gives NomalRaptor a quiet shell
<egg> !wpn Iskierka
* Qboid gives Iskierka a 2N3904
<bofh> Oh perfect, a ⚛!
<egg> !wpn
* Qboid gives egg a rotary standing wave ratio
<bofh> Just what I always needed!
<bofh> (now it depends on *which* ⚛... hopefully it's Pu-238)
<egg> alias fſck=fsck
<bofh> LOL
<bofh> so adding that to bashrc.
<bofh> also reminds me of a friend that legitimately had many typos aliased out, like alias grpe=grep and stuff like that
<egg> alias ſed=sed, too
<egg> bofh: though to get #!/bin/ſh to work you're going to need more than an alias
<bofh> symlink would suffice imho.
* egg should zzz
<egg> !wpn bofh, Ellied, ferram4, Fiora, Iskierka, NomalRaptor, rqou, whitequark, et al.
* Qboid gives bofh, Ellied, ferram4, Fiora, Iskierka, NomalRaptor, rqou, whitequark, et al. an autumn aberrant cyclotron
<egg> I didn't know there were seasonal cyclotrons
<egg> is Qboid more likely to give particle accelerators to loooooooong author lists
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<egg|zzz|egg> should I read this blog or do I risk going insane https://blogs.adobe.com/CCJKType/2017/09/houston-u2f9b2.html
<bofh> egg|zzz|egg: that would make sense, honestly, given the average length of a particle physics paper
<bofh> egg|zzz|egg: also that's a good blog IMO
<bofh> unrelated, but I realized I should *prolly* cut back on caffeine, just realized I'm at the equivalent of 6-7 cups of coffee/day or so.
<bofh> (and prolly explains why the heck the crashes are getting stronger... weirdly I get really inexplicably sad first, takes a few hours for the horrible headache to kick in)
* egg|zzz|egg tries following cjktype and ken_lunde on the diapsid website
<egg|zzz|egg> blarg I have to read https://blogs.adobe.com/CCJKType/2017/09/houston-u2f9b2.html zoomed five times >_>
* egg|zzz|egg brain melting
* egg|zzz|egg fails to understand anything about the discussion in that blog post
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: the number of strokes here is off by one, right? https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E8%B2%93#Han_character
<egg|zzz|egg> at least comparing with the zh and fr article it seems so; but on my machine the glyph seems to have the simplified form of 艹
<egg|zzz|egg> rqou: thoughts?
<NomalRaptor> "bound spectral states" ← QM or summoning dæmons?
<egg|zzz|egg> NomalRaptor: both.
<UmbralRaptor> bofh: Bonus points if the headaches cause nausea.
<bofh> egg|zzz|egg: yes, it looks off by one.
<bofh> UmbralRaptor: oh gods I fucking hope not :/
<egg|zzz|egg> !u 艹
<Qboid> U+8279 CJK IDEOGRAPH-8279 (艹)
<rqou> egg|zzz|egg: er, so for the adobe blog, i have no idea what all the character-encoding-related jargon is about
<egg|zzz|egg> rqou: and for the cat
<rqou> other than "sounds like the usual 3 vs 4 stroke 'grass' radical bikeshed/flamewar"
<rqou> animal radical + 8 looks right to me?
<egg|zzz|egg> rqou: we're looking at the traditional ideograph (note what the radical looks like), so shouldn't the 苗 be 9?
<egg|zzz|egg> (yes it's grass again)
<rqou> ugh
<rqou> the dictionary i use shows only three strokes for that part
<egg|zzz|egg> should we just count 艹 as π strokes,
<rqou> (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
<egg|zzz|egg> rqou: e.g. compare https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E8%B2%93
<rqou> (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
<rqou> egg|zzz|egg: so i checked more carefully
<egg|zzz|egg> 豸+(17±1)/2 strokes,
<rqou> the dictionary i normally use shows animal radical + 9 strokes
<rqou> but it's "how to write this" animation only uses 8
<rqou> *its
<egg|zzz|egg> ... 8 strokes and then scratch the paper in the middle of the horizonal stroke
<rqou> according to this dictionary's radical/stroke search, it's +9 for traditional, +8 for simplified
<rqou> but my fonts (no idea which fonts, haven't had time to debug, go ask @eevee) render them all as +8
<egg|zzz|egg> rqou: okay so doing some html editing in that table about han unification, we're seeing the simplified version of the traditional cat, but in the right context you can see the traditional one: https://i.imgur.com/xaLgtOZ.png
<egg|zzz|egg> (and viet gets the long end of the CJKV)
<rqou> hey, _some_ people have been busy adding Zhuang and/or Chữ Nôm to unicode, hence why we now have a tertiary ideographic plane reserved
<egg|zzz|egg> yeah, but fonts for them aren't commonly available
<egg|zzz|egg> (contrast with zh-Hant: it has fonts without action from my part on that machine, it's just that most of the time the language is not set properly in the html and it renders as zh-Hans)
<egg|zzz|egg> whereas vi renders as zh-Hans even in the presence of lang=vi
<rqou> so on my machine, i get identical output for zh-Hans, zh-Hant, and ko
<rqou> using +8
<rqou> and the zh-Hans font isn't serifed, despite the wikipedia markup requesting it
<rqou> er, nvm
<rqou> it's supposed to be sans-serif
<rqou> vi somehow gets a serif font
<rqou> and a completely different one from everything else
<egg|zzz|egg> yeah because there's no font for vi so it falls back stupidly
<rqou> ja gets a sans-serif font where the top stroke of the animal radical is at a higher angle, but is still +8 strokes
<egg|zzz|egg> (and displays zh-Hans glyphs because that's the least sensible one to pick)