UmbralRaptor changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> … one of the other grad students just compared me to nomal O_o | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
<egg|zzz|egg>
rqou: yeah, but I would be willing to believe that that's accurate
<rqou>
the "square shape" is in the lower-left for zh-hans, zh-hant, and ko on my machine
<rqou>
it's in the lower-right for ja and vi
<rqou>
afaik that's totally wrong
<egg|zzz|egg>
rqou: ok, it's broken on your machine in all but ja and zh-Hans
<rqou>
but vi is picking a unique serif font
<egg|zzz|egg>
yeah but that's just because it's completely broken :-p
<rqou>
ironically, i usually prefer serif fonts for chinese, but my machine doesn't want to do that apparently :P
<egg|zzz|egg>
on my machine it's ok except vi (which, well, always gets the long end of cjkv as I said)
<rqou>
but this is how capitalism works: zh-hans -- #2 economy in the world, our shit better work; ja -- #3 economy in the world, definitely not china, also weeaboos
<rqou>
zh-hant -- that rogue province that is going to stop existing as soon as we can figure out how to do so without starting wwiii; ko -- you guys use chinese?; vi -- you guys exist?
<rqou>
egg|zzz|egg: there's also the "very formal, not distinctively cantonese" dialect used for official business in HK
<rqou>
huh, you also have a sans-serif zh-hans font
<rqou>
er, wait. the table explicitly requests that
<egg|zzz|egg>
I have windows's default
<bofh>
huh, there's sans-serif zh-hans? bleh.
<rqou>
yeah
<egg|zzz|egg>
rqou: also a sans-serif zh-Hant font evidently
<rqou>
zh-Hant is the biggest cluserf*ck ever
<UmbralRaptor>
Note to self: vi ≠ vi
<rqou>
zh-Hant can be basically anything
<bofh>
granted, I've gotten weird stares for thinking SimSun is a good font, but that's b/c it's easy for a foreigner like me to distinguish glyphs in, especially at small font sizes.
<rqou>
fun zh "feature":
<egg|zzz|egg>
rqou: well yeah, it's the thing whence the others originate (which also means vi should fall back to that for half-decency rather than zh-Hans with serifs!??#@$)
<rqou>
because there's multiple groups at this point
<rqou>
isn't it great? /s
<rqou>
geopolitical drama for everyone!
<egg|zzz|egg>
conclusion: egyptian hieroglyphs are simple
<egg|zzz|egg>
also akkadian-sumerian identification
<rqou>
at least it's a dead language and can't grow new warts and "features" over time
<egg|zzz|egg>
s/rian/rian-hittite/
<Qboid>
egg|zzz|egg meant to say: also akkadian-sumerian-hittite identification
<egg|zzz|egg>
rqou: well for hieroglyphs we can discover new stupid ways of laying them out
<egg|zzz|egg>
"I'll just stick that egg on the back of the ram where there's some room"
<rqou>
but you don't need to decide "how do i write 'computer' in hieroglyphs"
<bofh>
00:21 <@rqou> yes, changing simplified/traditional (indirectly) changes the meaning :P
<bofh>
yaey </sarcasm>
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: yes, it complexifies the vector space,
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: you should do that if you teach linear algebra
<rqou>
also, because CN tries to get people to not use english, and because HK tends to need to use _both_ chinese and english, we've now got an amazing pile of chinese-ified english computer terminology
<rqou>
e.g. "美國信息交換標準碼"
<rqou>
which means "ASCII"
<Iskierka>
... y'all chinese people need acronyms
<rqou>
ironically, the chinese term for "Unicode" is actually much shorter -- "統一碼"
<bofh>
so that's actually sensible IMO :P
<rqou>
Iskierka: we have acronym-like constructs too
<rqou>
usually used in article titles
* Iskierka
is presuming the full thing means the full spelling of ASCII, so unsurprising unicode would be shorter
<egg|zzz|egg>
rqou: so is there 美國信息交換標準碼 art
<rqou>
yes, it's literally "United States information exchanging standard code"
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: I had never heard the term scalar product for multiplication of a vector with a field element and I find it abhorrent
<bofh>
egg|zzz|egg: SAME, that confused the fuck out of me
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: because in french produit scalaire is the inner product (the one that gives you a scalar)
<bofh>
scalar product is an inner product damnit
<egg|zzz|egg>
genau
<bofh>
egg|zzz|egg: yeah, I know, same for libavcodec
<bofh>
scalarproduct_float_sse is the dot product :P
<rqou>
except now you're working with libav
<egg|zzz|egg>
was it written by french people
<rqou>
iirc approximately tied with imagemagick for number of security vulnerabilities
<bofh>
egg|zzz|egg: I think that bit of lavc dates back to Fabrice Bellard code
<rqou>
:P
<egg|zzz|egg>
okay so that explains the terminology :D
<bofh>
rqou: uhm, ffmpeg lavc is nowhere near as bad as imagemagick.
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: also fields should be called K, not F, what is this degenerate notation :-p
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: more seriously, it seems very coordinateful
<bofh>
okay, I've never seen K used until you brought it up :P I think F is an America-ism, inspired by Dummit&Foote.
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: it's an english thing
<bofh>
egg|zzz|egg: it starts coordinateful and becomes less so as it goes on, which is the opposite way from I'd do it, but again - this was aimed at second-year undergrads
<egg|zzz|egg>
what with fields being called fields and weder Koerpern ni corps
<bofh>
egg|zzz|egg: I mostly just rediscovered it just now and was curious what you thought.
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<rqou>
alright, enough distractions from you guys
<rqou>
time for me to do problem sets
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: well good, if you have undergrad they are pure and coordinate-free, why show them coordinates
<egg|zzz|egg>
yeah, the latter part looks like how I learned it from skimming distantly at 2:40
<kmath>
<nicklockwood> *sees long discussion thread between smart Swift compiler peeps* this should be good… “Is a spoon of peanut butter a sandwich?” oh.
<egg|zzz|egg>
(I assume that's related to whitequark's result on the nonexistence of sandwiches)
<bofh>
egg|zzz|egg: I'm not sure, but I know ChemTwitter has a lot of "is X a sandwich" memes with the hotdog being the official sandwich of ChemTwitter :P
<kmath>
<NASAJuno> I’m being followed by a moon shadow. #Jupiter’s moon Amalthea casts a shadow on the planet in this #JunoCam image… https://t.co/dvIDRZNDl7
<bofh>
UmbralRaptor: apparently not, I should fix that
<kmath>
<ThePatanoiac> Feathers became pages when books evolved from birds. After learning to repeat human speech, printing it out was the next logical adaptation.
<kmath>
<elakdawalla> You haven’t lived until you’ve watched a rap battle about TRAPPIST exoplanets in which one contestant has an outRAGEous French accent #DPS17
<rqou>
hmm, the crazy batshit notation this robotics course uses actually does work out for computing things
<rqou>
it's just that it intuitively makes zero sense
<egg|zzz|egg>
!wpn bofh
* Qboid
gives bofh a triple obsolete macropod
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<egg|zzz|egg>
!tell bofh,ellied so a while back I wanted to link this video (probably in the context of green LEDs or something), finally found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yusrrOPM43o
<Qboid>
egg|zzz|egg: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
<kmath>
YouTube - The First Light Emitting Diodes
<soundnfury>
!wpn egg|zzz|egg
* Qboid
gives egg|zzz|egg a cryo paraboloid-like heptagon
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<egg|work|egg>
bofh: there are a lot of videos of WWV around leap seconds on youtube O_o
<kmath>
YouTube - WWV Frequency Reduction Announcement - 1976
<Iskierka>
people are silly. "upside-down u" to describe the button on a nook ... that is the exact same shape as the n in the "nook" logo
<Iskierka>
it's an n!
<egg|work|egg>
!tell rqou hm, on my work machine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_unification#Examples_of_language-dependent_glyphs seems to work pretty well; they're all in consistent sans fonts, zh-Hans, zh-Hant, ja, and ko are all distinct, and vi seems identical to ja rather than zh-Hans (which I don't believe for a second is accurate, but that's still better than zh-Hans)
<Qboid>
egg|work|egg: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
<egg|work|egg>
I think I may have installed all of noto on this machine though so maybe that eggsplains things
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<egg|work|egg>
huh, we have one principia download from KZ
<UmbralRaptor>
egg|work|egg: Guess what will be displaying the next Союз launch!
<kmath>
<HumanoidHistory> A cat walks near a Soviet-era Buran #space shuttle at a museum in the Baikonur Cosmodrome, Kazakhstan, 2016. Photo… https://t.co/l2mbJT0ZfJ
<Qboid>
bofh: egg|zzz|egg left a message for you in #kspacademia [20.10.2017 06:47:15]: "so a while back I wanted to link this video (probably in the context of green LEDs or something), finally found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yusrrOPM43o"
<kmath>
<Chritchen> @1011XX @whitequark Monads don't exist. Problem solved. Everyone back to normal life
<UmbralRaptor>
Ah, a sandwich then.
<egg|work|egg>
a ppc_f128 sandwich?
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<APlayer>
!wpn egg
* Qboid
gives egg an atomic uranium dynamo
<UmbralRaptor>
!wpn APlayer
* Qboid
gives APlayer a soft inverse ⚠
<APlayer>
Sounds fun
<APlayer>
!wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid
gives UmbralRaptor an icy trie/set hybrid
* Ellied
is vaguely given to wonder why laptop headphone DACs go high-impedance when nothing's playing, inviting all sorts of crosstalk to yell out of the speakers/headphones
<Qboid>
Ellied: egg|zzz|egg left a message for you in #kspacademia [20.10.2017 06:47:15]: "so a while back I wanted to link this video (probably in the context of green LEDs or something), finally found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yusrrOPM43o"
<Ellied>
my right channel buzzes whenever I move the trackpoint with nothing playing
* APlayer
found a game where you have to land things. Interestingly, fuel tanks located pretty much in the middle of the landing platforms tend to explode and destroy your ship
<Ellied>
you can fairly easily fix that by just setting up a service to launch aplay /dev/zero in the background (other audio has no trouble playing over it) but it's still strange
<APlayer>
Also, Ellied: mouser.com shipping costs were 20€ to Germany, in case you are interested :P
<Ellied>
wheee alright probably better look for something more local
<Ellied>
There must be some component distributor close to home over there, no?
<APlayer>
Yeah
<APlayer>
There should be shop loacted about 100 m from me, but it's a private business and they are closed by the time I return from school
<APlayer>
I'll have a look during my vacations in two weeks, if my father does not obtain the parts from his work by then
<Ellied>
actually those MOSFETs I recommended (IPP80N06S4L-05 and IPP80P04P4L-07) are Infineon, which is based out of Germany :P
<Ellied>
you might be able to get them more easily than I can
<APlayer>
It's just a matter of finding the correct vendor
<Ellied>
yeah
* egg|cell|egg
pokes GreeningGalaxy with a green diode from the seventies
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<APlayer>
Ellied: Uh, the MOSFETs you recommended seem rather over-engineered for this task, don't they?
<APlayer>
It's just that I am a bit on a room budget
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<APlayer>
I have about 15 * 18 * 22 mm of space for the whole circuit, and it'd be nice if I didn't have to switch to this "large" sort of MOSFET and be able to use the "small" one
<APlayer>
Well, no, I can extend the 18mm dimension somewhat, but not unlimited
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<egg>
!wpn Ellied
* Qboid
gives Ellied a Legendre ネコバス
<egg>
!wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid
gives UmbralRaptor a solvable vibrator
<egg>
!wpn APlayer
* Qboid
gives APlayer a furious-sounding nabla
<egg>
!wpn whitequark, котя, and порошок
* Qboid
gives whitequark, котя, and порошок an infinite diagonal cardinal
<APlayer>
"Im Englischen wird der Operator als „del“ bezeichnet."
<UmbralRaptor>
Vector calculus fun. Blame Oliver Heaviside.
<APlayer>
That moment when you manage to achieve something in about 1/10 the time it would normally take you to do, and you have no idea how you did it...
<APlayer>
I've got to go for now... Be back soon!
<UmbralRaptor>
\o
* UmbralRaptor
pokes egg with snapseed for cropping photos.
<egg>
UmbralRaptor: but there are two diapsids! also the landscape is pretty
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<UmbralRaptor>
Also a crane in its natural habitat?
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<egg>
UmbralRaptor: yup
<egg>
!wpn whitequark
* Qboid
gives whitequark a signalling motor
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* egg
pets UmbralRaptor with a kitten
<UmbralRaptor>
!wpn APlayer
* Qboid
gives APlayer a skew tube
<UmbralRaptor>
kitty!
<APlayer>
!wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid
gives UmbralRaptor an Apollonian bracket
<UmbralRaptor>
Presumably that is used to mount an Apollonian gasket.
* egg
ponders food
<APlayer>
Qboid gives us so much stuff, I wonder if there was enough distributed to build something complex
<APlayer>
Oh well, I am off for chess club. Friday night is relaxing time :D
* Qboid
gives Qboid a theory with a cylinder attachment
<Qboid>
rqou: egg|work|egg left a message for you in #kspacademia [20.10.2017 10:03:27]: "hm, on my work machine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_unification#Examples_of_language-dependent_glyphs seems to work pretty well; they're all in consistent sans fonts, zh-Hans, zh-Hant, ja, and ko are all distinct, and vi seems identical to ja rather than zh-Hans (which I don't believe for a second is accurate, but
<Qboid>
that's still better than zh-Hans)"
<rqou>
what's the point of !tell?
<rqou>
bouncers are superior
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<egg>
rqou: well I don't have one, also sometimes I don't catch up with the whole backlog
<bofh>
the latter, mostly.
<e_14159>
egg: You might not have a bouncer, but your mean presence-ness is about 2.3.
<egg>
:D
* UmbralRaptor
would have eggspected egg yo understand resonances. >_>;;
<egg>
UmbralRaptor: can you eggsplain them to me?
<UmbralRaptor>
No. :(
<bofh>
"Similarly, Mimas is in a 1:3 resonance with stuff in the the gap between Saturn's B and C rings." this is always disorienting.
<UmbralRaptor>
I assume something with perturbations.
<soundnfury>
yeah if you're in a resonance then you're getting a repetitive series of gravity assists no?
<soundnfury>
which then changes your period slightly, alters the next gravity assist, and depending on some hessian somewhere is either a stable or unstable resonance
<kmath>
<SamusAranX> @FioraAeterna I can't wait for the first millenial scientist to invent something important then name it Background… https://t.co/rjwHHxrfnc
<kmath>
<sarahkaplan48> Do you love science? Do you want to write creatively and cover breaking news? Are you a vampire and/or coffee addic… https://t.co/oFyrgYZo1p
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<Qboid>
10d 0h 0m 0s left to event #12: 무궁화 5A호/Falcon 9 v1.2 [at 2017-10-30 19:34:00]. Say '!kountdown 12' for details