UmbralRaptor changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> … one of the other grad students just compared me to nomal O_o | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
<bofh> CollapsedRaptor: empirical evidence seems to support this concept.
<CollapsedRaptor> eggcellent
<bofh> https://mobile.twitter.com/ridingrobots/status/923696824690515968 man if only I had skill at pumpkin-carving...
<kmath> https://twitter.com/ridingrobots/status/923696824690515968 <ridingrobots> Last 2 years' jack-o-lanterns: Saturn in infrared, Enceladus plume pass (https://t.co/numXWh6rRi) This year: one la… https://t.co/qUHtQLs6d0
<kmath> <SuvrathM> HPF comes to light at the Hobby Eberly Telescope! @PSUScience @HPFspectrograph @mcdonaldobs @PSUObservatory… https://t.co/TWpDc7qINX
<egg|zzz|egg> CollapsedRaptor: well yes, things are catshifted in my reference frame
<egg|zzz|egg> CollapsedRaptor: also I will be getting another machine for work (so many computers D:), I need to find another picture of M31 to use as screen background...
<egg|zzz|egg> (I have Spitzer on my desktop keyboard, PHAT on my desktop monitors, GALEX on my chromebook already)
<egg|zzz|egg> WISE I guess?
<CollapsedRaptor> Technically WISE's channels overlap w/ Spitzer's. 2MASS?
<egg|zzz|egg> yeah...
<egg|zzz|egg> 2MASS?
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg: [2MASS] => Two Micron All Sky Survey
<egg|zzz|egg> slightly longer tho?
<egg|zzz|egg> um, I meant μm but sure, moar scripts
<egg|zzz|egg> !u м
<Qboid> U+043C CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER EM (м)
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn Thomas
* Qboid gives Thomas a PowerPoint mandelbrofl
<Ellied> mandelbrofl?
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<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn Ellied
* Qboid gives Ellied a diprotodon
* egg|zzz|egg pets the diprotodon
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<egg|zzz|egg> !acr -add:ISO Infrared Space Observatory
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg: I added the explanation for this acronym.
<egg|zzz|egg> ROSAT?
<egg|zzz|egg> !acr -add:ROSAT RÖntgenSATellit
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg: I added the explanation for this acronym.
<egg|zzz|egg> CollapsedRaptor: ah there's also herschel http://herschel.cf.ac.uk/results/andromeda-galaxy
<egg|zzz|egg> !acr -add:SPIRE Spectral and Photometric Imaging REceiver
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg: I added the explanation for this acronym.
<CollapsedRaptor> IRAC?
<Qboid> CollapsedRaptor: [IRAC] => Infra Red Array Camera
<bofh> man,the astro folk are as bad as the NMR folk.
<kmath> <asrivkin> I gotta say, it's too bad 2017 U1 wasn't found inbound, but I'm imagining the panic in observers it could have generated.
<egg|zzz|egg> !acr -add:PACS Photoconductor Array Camera and Spectrometer
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg: I added the explanation for this acronym.
<CollapsedRaptor> bofh: Clever acronyms make memorable projects. Memorable projects get funding. Therefore…
<egg|zzz|egg> !acr -add:HIFI Heterodyne Instrument for the Far Infrared
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg: I added the explanation for this acronym.
<bofh> CollapsedRaptor: point.
<bofh> https://www.reddit.com/r/Ashens/comments/615l4n/never_rely_on_microsoft_words_builtin/dfbvgjk/ oh man someone typed up the entire History of the Violin text.
<egg|zzz|egg> CollapsedRaptor: so yeah I guess I could use this, no overlap with what I currently have with Spitzer/PHAT/GALEX https://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA16682
<egg|zzz|egg> CollapsedRaptor: technically WISE seems to be longer infrared than 2MASS but this is much longer
<CollapsedRaptor> Yeah, WISE starts about where 2MASS ends.
<CollapsedRaptor> I wonder if there's good Chandra imagery?
<egg|zzz|egg> CollapsedRaptor: not sure x-ray imagery makes such pretty pics (same for radio)
<egg|zzz|egg> CollapsedRaptor: can you observe cows with radioastronomy,
<bofh> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3C_75#/media/File:3C75_in_Radio%2BXray.jpg disagree, X-Ray astronomy can make pretty pics
<CollapsedRaptor> egg|zzz|egg: RADAR suggests yes.
<bofh> (I believe that actually *is* a Chandra one)
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: yeah but that's because fancy stuff is happening there
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: M31 is lacking in fancy stuff like that :-p
<bofh> Okay, point.
<kmath> <mhoye> The most amazing thing about Stroustroup's Faraday medal is that you can overload it to be a Pulitzer, a Nobel and… https://t.co/GzuKeHemsq
<CollapsedRaptor> I thought M31 had 2 or 3 supermassive black holes?
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<egg|zzz|egg> !choose z|zz|zzz
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg: Your options are: z, zz, zzz. My choice: zzz
<egg|zzz|egg> ;choose z|zz|zzz
<kmath> egg|zzz|egg: z
<bofh> egg|zzz|egg: I choose "pet the z's" :P
<egg|zzz|egg> hmmm
<bofh> hey they're slightly more likely to interact via the electromagnetic force than neutrinos are :P
<CollapsedRaptor> Note to self: chemists are hardcore https://twitter.com/bofh453/status/923719914711642113
<kmath> <bofh453> @chimericalgirls My usual lemonade is dilute citric acid (except for that one time I ran out & it was very dilute hydrochloric instead).
<CollapsedRaptor> !tell aplayer internships! https://www.lpi.usra.edu/lpiintern/
<Qboid> CollapsedRaptor: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
<xShadowx> that time you google for a graphing calculator, and it has everything...except modulo
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<FluffyFoxeh> I wish mine had a qwerty keyboard instead of abcdefg
* CollapsedRaptor hugs a TI-89 despite its flaws.
<CollapsedRaptor> !wpn -add:wpn garuda
<Qboid> CollapsedRaptor: Weapon added!
<CollapsedRaptor> !wpn -add:wpn oni
<Qboid> CollapsedRaptor: Weapon added!
<CollapsedRaptor> !wpn -add:wpn preta
<Qboid> CollapsedRaptor: Weapon added!
<CollapsedRaptor> !wpn -add:wpn asura
<Qboid> CollapsedRaptor: Weapon added!
<CollapsedRaptor> !wpn -add:wpn jiangshi
<Qboid> CollapsedRaptor: Weapon added!
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<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn Fiora
* Qboid gives Fiora a beta variety
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn Iskierka
* Qboid gives Iskierka a Bekenstein kindle
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn whitequark
* Qboid gives whitequark a tunneling ?
<kmath> <Helios748> @Melphis__Amekia She's adorable https://t.co/WIa1gi4hUZ
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<whitequark> !wpn egg
* Qboid gives egg a complete equation
<egg|cell|egg> !Wpn whitequark and котя
* Qboid gives whitequark and котя a specific hippomobile IoT dildo with hard-coded credentials
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<egg|work|egg> oh hey there are insects for food here this afternoon
<egg|work|egg> whitequark: I wonder whether they will have moth
<whitequark> who
<whitequark> when
<whitequark> it's winter
* whitequark stares at hippomobile IoT dildo
<egg|work|egg> here as in at the office
<egg|work|egg> whitequark: from those people apparently www.essento.ch
<egg|work|egg> seems they do Tenebrio molitor, Locusta migratoria, and Acheta domesticus; no moth
<whitequark> whatever is on the pic here is delicious
<egg|work|egg> whitequark: hm, they don't seem to be saying what this is on that page, but it's in their cookbook http://delicious-insects.ch/produkt/insektenkochbuch-grillen-heuschrecken-co/
<egg|work|egg> whitequark: guessing some kind of fried orthopteran
<egg|work|egg> !kd -list
<Qboid> egg|work|egg: Invalid list argument! Valid arguments are 'events' and 'subs'.
<egg|work|egg> !kd -list:events
<Qboid> egg|work|egg: I sent you a list of all Kountdown events.
<kmath> <planet4589> I've seen several people pointing out that Rama is the obvious name for 2017 U1 - @minorplanetctr take note https://t.co/DzpHmhAJeR
<egg|work|egg> !kd -add SkySat 8..13/Minotaur-C-3210|A Minotaur-C-3210 will launch six SSTL-50-based SkySat satellites (http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/skysat-3.htm) from Vandenberg Launch Complex 576E into a 500 km altitude heliosynchronous orbit|2017-10-31T21:37Z
<Qboid> egg|work|egg: Added event #15
<CollapsedRaptor> !wpn -add:wpn roc
<Qboid> CollapsedRaptor: Weapon added!
<CollapsedRaptor> !wpn -add:wpn rock
<Qboid> CollapsedRaptor: Weapon added!
<CollapsedRaptor> !wpn -add:adj rock
<Qboid> CollapsedRaptor: Adjective added!
<CollapsedRaptor> !eon egg|work|egg
<CollapsedRaptor> !wpn egg|work|egg
* Qboid gives egg|work|egg a logarithmic variety
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<egg|work|egg> CollapsedRaptor: wait have you not unitarily evolved since yesterday
CollapsedRaptor is now known as UmbralRaptor
<UmbralRaptor> Something something near classical behavior.
<egg|work|egg> UmbralRaptor: um, what does odds of n to k mean again
<UmbralRaptor> context?
<UmbralRaptor> Generally I'd say p = n/k, but…
<egg|work|egg> UmbralRaptor: the thing you linked
<kmath> https://twitter.com/bofh453/status/923897313285869569 <bofh453> Screw popped out of my right glasses lens holder & I can't find it so I'm using a spare 2N7000 instead.
<egg|work|egg> UmbralRaptor: thousands to one with p=n/k yields a strange probability :-p
<UmbralRaptor> uh, k/n in that case.
<UmbralRaptor> English is a confusing language.
<egg|work|egg> O_o
<UmbralRaptor> 1/1000s
<bofh> English is insane, yes.
<UmbralRaptor> In any case, A2017/U1 is from surprisingly close to Vega. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyra
<egg|work|egg> my desktop background keeps reverting to the default >_<
* egg|work|egg stabs his linux machine
<bofh> UmbralRaptor: do we have an agreement for the eggcentricity of A2017/U1 yet?
<UmbralRaptor> bofh: well, the last round of observations left it at 1.19, so I think so?
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<kmath> <billmckibben> It hit 107 deg F in Fullerton CA on Monday, the hottest temp ever recorded this late in the year anywhere in the US https://t.co/H7PZn2nCvx
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<kmath> <TiroTypeworks> Kazakhstan to switch from Cyrillic to Latin alphabet. https://t.co/hcz8fY13df
<UmbralRaptor> Conspiracy theory: Arrival (1996) was correct, and the aliens got the current president elected.
<UmbralRaptor> bofh: semirelated: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2014Icar..242..112W
<Iskierka> 
<egg|work|egg> !u 
<Qboid> U+F282 PRIVATE USE-F282 ()
<UmbralRaptor> Iskierka: is that one of those Apple things?
<Iskierka> in the font "Hack" and possibly others on my system as it works in multiple places, that's the internet explorer logo
<UmbralRaptor> Hah
<Iskierka> 
<UmbralRaptor> tofutofu
<UmbralRaptor> !u 
<Qboid> U+F293 PRIVATE USE-F293 ()
<Qboid> U+F294 PRIVATE USE-F294 ()
* Iskierka is exploring the PUA
<UmbralRaptor> Ah
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<egg|work|egg> ??????????
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<Iskierka> I'm looking again and noticing one of the icons is for vimeo
<Iskierka> who put a vimeo icon in but not youtube
<UmbralRaptor> !u मा
<Qboid> U+092E DEVANAGARI LETTER MA (म)
<Qboid> U+093E DEVANAGARI VOWEL SIGN AA (ा)
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<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a Sierpiński interregnum which vaguely resembles a protractor
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn whitequark
* Qboid gives whitequark a singular IDE/Durandal hybrid
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn egg|zzz|egg
* Qboid gives egg|zzz|egg a dependent field which strongly resembles a ㎭
<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark: they didn't have any of those big locusts sadly, but they did have mealworms
<egg|zzz|egg> also smol crickets
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* UmbralRaptor pokes NOAA with a stick. I just want the past several decades of weather data from the 4 nearest airports…
* SnoopJeDi hugs NOAA
* bofh also hugs NOAA
<SnoopJeDi> !wpn bofh and UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives bofh and UmbralRaptor a solenoidal pommel which vaguely resembles a traversal
<UmbralRaptor> SnoopJeDi, bofh: I feel like I'm at the back of a long queue, though.
<UmbralRaptor> And I ran into a 10 station-year limit per order for my free/no account status.
<SnoopJeDi> I haven't poked at weather data for a long time, last thing I would've needed was Gulf bathymetry
* UmbralRaptor waits for the download links to become available.
<UmbralRaptor> Aiming for cloud cover around GMU campus.
<UmbralRaptor> So Dulles, Reagan, and 2 military airports.
<SnoopJeDi> oh, apopos of nothing, I learned yesterday that apparently the shear viscosity of air is density-independent? o.O
<UmbralRaptor> The ferram4 sector is dark magic.
<SnoopJeDi> UmbralRaptor, I know a guy who's pretty rolled into the JCET community if you want to fire off a question
<SnoopJeDi> his work was more principally on PM and nowadays I have no idea, but he's a friendly sort with an excellent GIS pedigree
<kmath> <3PSboyd> Yes I did get all my ideas about masculinity from Cowboy Bebop, why do you ask
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: new observation of a population II cat
<UmbralRaptor> \o/
<SnoopJeDi> oh! This article actually sums up a lot of the ideas we heard yesterday on AdS/CFT and hydrodynamics. https://physics.aps.org/articles/v2/88
<SnoopJeDi> I could only follow so much of it, but I'd never considered the importance of hydrodynamics for black hole merger ringdown. Something something membrane.
<UmbralRaptor> Currently queueing 2007-01-01 to 2016-12-31. Wonder if 1997-01-01 to 2006-12-31 for DCA and IAD would be a good idea.
<UmbralRaptor> SnoopJeDi: ooh.
* UmbralRaptor recently saw something about using fluid dynamics to test if Hawking Radiation was real.
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a quaternion
* UmbralRaptor rotates egg|zzz|egg about the w-axis.
<SnoopJeDi> Yea that was a cool lightbulb moment for me, realizing that ringdown can be viewed as there being a sink for the membrane's canonical momentum
<SnoopJeDi> fluids are neato
<Iskierka> has that test been done? (and was there an answer?)
<UmbralRaptor> unsure on followup
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<SnoopJeDi> I love that there's a thing called the Martini model in accelerators: https://cds.cern.ch/record/151638
<Qboid> 3d 0h 0m 0s left to event #12: 무궁화 5A호/Falcon 9 v1.2 [at 2017-10-30 19:34:00]. Say '!kountdown 12' for details
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn Fiora
* Qboid gives Fiora a nilpotent pen
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<bofh> !wpn egg
* Qboid gives egg an avalanche cup of tea
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn hattivat
* Qboid gives hattivat a solipsistic graph
<egg|zzz|egg> hattivat: I'm wondering what analogy would best convey the mess of CJKV unification to non-CJKV speakers not familiar with the issue
<egg|zzz|egg> hattivat: greek-cyrillic-latin unification? :-p
<hattivat> !wpn egg|zzz|egg
* Qboid gives egg|zzz|egg an expanding IOMMU which vaguely resembles a 2N3906
<hattivat> kind of, yeah
<hattivat> except the scale is even worse due to the scale of the script
<hattivat> and the degree of overlap is even bigger
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<egg|zzz|egg> hattivat: yeah the scale is also the reason why we have to deal with this shit :-p
* egg|zzz|egg stares at 16 measly planes of Unicode
<hattivat> egg|zzz|egg: we as in your team?
<egg|zzz|egg> nah, we as in people in general
<hattivat> speaking of unicode, why aren't unicode nicks allowed anywhere? T_T
<egg|zzz|egg> (I mean we probably have CJKV bugs)
<hattivat> I think only Spotify allows them, and who cares about their username on spotify
<hattivat> I came up with an alternative gangsta nickname this week, but I can't use it anywhere
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<xn--z7x> hattivat: punycode works!
<xn--z7x> now you just need a client that decodes punycode nicks :-p
xn--z7x is now known as xn--tj3a
<hattivat> it's π-cuss-O , I'm amazed no one has 'ever dropped a mixtape' with this pun
<xn--tj3a> anyway
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<hattivat> egg|cell|egg: well, weechat certainly doesn't
<egg> I don't think any does
<egg> but you could shove Unicode in there via punycode
<SnoopJeDi> "Note that this proposes “turning the volume up to 11”: changing the version number for Emoji v6.0 to Emoji v11.0 to synchronize major versions of Emoji and Unicode."
<SnoopJeDi> welp
<egg> hattivat: (unless you want to support nicks that actually start with xn-- I guess)
<rqou> oh yeah, punycode is great, especially if people aren't expecting it
<egg> rqou: :D
<rqou> e.g. see the hostname I'm connecting from
<egg> :D
<SnoopJeDi> LOL
<egg> rqou: what do you think of GCL unification as an analogy for CJKV unification
<rqou> people keep forgetting punicode ccTLDs exist
<egg> yeah I know
<rqou> GCL unification isn't quite sufficient
<egg> when they do that I poke them woith a pointed stick
<rqou> it doesn't involve quite the same geopolitical issues as a result of colonialism and WWII as Han unification
<egg> yeah >_>
<hattivat> very true
<rqou> anyways, brb class
<egg> rqou: well, the CL bits could cause geopolitical issues somewhat
<rqou> see you in an hour
<egg> \o
<hattivat> CL in the Balkans
<hattivat> that would be huge
<egg> hattivat: you saw that kk wants to switch to kk-Latn?
<hattivat> standard Croatian and standard Serbian differ basically only in script
<egg> with freaking apostrophes
<egg> hattivat: yeah but there's an sr-Latn too
<egg> with a standard transliteration
* hattivat looks up kk
<hattivat> egg: there is no such country code, what is kk?
<egg> language code
<hattivat> oh, kazkhstan?
<egg> KZ
<hattivat> yeah, heard of it
<egg> should have said KZ wants kk to switch to Latn, but I gave the language its own mind instead :-p
<egg> also the above sentence is BCP-47 porn
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<hattivat> kk switching to Latin would be weird, given how it is surrounded by Cyrillic countries
<hattivat> I mean, even Mongolia is Cyrillic nowadays
<egg> yeah
<hattivat> although I recall Uzbekistan making some moves towards Latin
<hattivat> so maybe not so weird
<egg> hattivat: anyway, YouTube has both sr-Latn and hr (as well as sr-Cyrl)
<egg> languages \o/
<hattivat> sr-Latn and hr being separate is a linguistic debacle
<hattivat> cases like this is why many people refuse to use the words 'language' and 'dialect' in a professional setting, and use 'idiolect' instead
<hattivat> I mean, Northern Chinese 'dialects' have almost no intelligibility with Southern Chinese 'dialects', but fuck it, it's one language because politics
<hattivat> while standard Serbian and standard Croatian are based on literally the same dialect from the same county of Yugoslavia
<hattivat> but hey, we hate each other, so let's pretend we're different
<hattivat> (standard serbian and standard croatian as opposed to local dialects, which can of course be quite different)
<egg> hattivat: yeah, and you have stuff like dalmatian croatian which is hard for hr speakers to understand whereas they understand serbian just fine :D
<hattivat> yeah, exactly
<egg> ninjhattivat
<hattivat> Malaysian and Indonesian are another example
<hattivat> although they at least have meaningfull differences in loanwords and slang due to different colonial influences
<hattivat> standard malaysian is much easier to understand for a speaker of standard Indonesian (not the many of them, realistically only people who learned the language at school) than the Jakartan dialect that you're much more likely to hear in real life on a street
<hattivat> s/the/that
<Qboid> hattivat meant to say: standard malaysian is much easier to understand for a speaker of standard Indonesian (not that many of them, realistically only people who learned the language at school) than the Jakartan dialect that you're much more likely to hear in real life on a street
<egg> !wpn hattivat
* Qboid gives hattivat an octapod neutron with a sequence point attachment
<egg> !wpn whitequark
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<egg> !wpn котя
* Qboid gives котя an orb
<kmath> <eggleroy> @bofh453 ??????
<hattivat> egg: I'm equally impressed and envious of the amount of free time working in google seems to afford ;p
<hattivat> s/in/at
<Qboid> hattivat meant to say: egg: I'm equally impressed and envious of the amount of free time workatg in google seems to afford ;p
<hattivat> yeah, qboid, perfect
<hattivat> s/ in/ at
<Qboid> hattivat meant to say: egg: I'm equally impressed and envious of the amount of free time working at google seems to afford ;p
<egg> hattivat: well it's mostly that I nerd-snipe everyone there with fancy script things :D
<egg> hattivat: a colleague of mine who is a manager in another team really likes the hieroglyph A59 :D
<hattivat> is it the dick one?
<egg> no, it's "man threatening with stick"
<egg> hattivat: the manager hieroglyph! :-p
<hattivat> I tried sending it to several people, but no one has a profer font installed ;_;
<hattivat> oh, ok
<hattivat> I see there is even a perfect hieroglyph for Russian use
<hattivat> A16, a victim of нaгибaтор
<hattivat> нaгибaтор means something like bend-overer, as in someone who forces others to bend over with obvious sexual-submissivness undertones
<hattivat> Russian gamers like to call themselves that
<hattivat> which suggests to me that Russian profanities are as fixated on anal sex as the Polish ones
<kmath> https://twitter.com/diodebot/status/924012171096461312 <diodebot> stabber-depleted zener diode
<hattivat> do we have any Russians on the channel who could confirm or deny?
<egg> whitequark
<kmath> https://twitter.com/postquantum/status/924008518927007745 <postquantum> Okay I clearly need to rethink my costume. Maybe I'll go as a Faddeev-Popov ghost. #ScienceHalloween #DadJoke https://t.co/K2Wu4e3wro
<rqou> oh, were we talking about languages and politics earlier?
<rqou> hindustani is also lots of fun
<rqou> hate each other, have a disputed border, and have nukes? what could go wrong?
<bofh> 20:15 < hattivat> cases like this is why many people refuse to use the words 'language' and 'dialect' in a professional setting, and use 'idiolect' instead
<bofh> idiolect is a good word, particularly b/c both the Serbs and the Croats are being total idiots here.
* bofh dodges :P
<bofh> https://physics.illinois.edu/calendar/event/11/1/2017/33274978 okay, I laughed at the title but this abstract actually seems neat.
<hattivat> bofh: /me tries to come up with a funny alternative etymology for 'dialect', but fails
<hattivat> but yeah, they are being total idiots in this regards
<hattivat> wish it was just them though
<hattivat> interesting how South America seems to have avoided this
<bofh> hattivat: former Yugoslavia seems to be by far the worst and the most depressingly violent too. :/
<hattivat> out of all the idiocies in the world, they at least managed to avoid this one
<UmbralRaptor> hattivat: that's because they did all the killing in the 19th century?
<hattivat> bofh: long history to it, as you are probably aware
* UmbralRaptor stares at the war of the triple alliance.
<bofh> hattivat: nearest I can tell a lot of it was papered-over long-standing ethnic tensions under Tito that sort of came to the forefront and then were fanned/exacerbated by various nationalistic forces who did so in the hopes of attaining power?
<hattivat> Balkan Slavs did a lot of killing in the 19th and early 20th century too, didn't seem to result in anything other than even more violence in revenge later on
<bofh> (with the "long-standing" dating back to such fun things like being under separate parts of Austro-Hungary / Independent / Ottoman Empire, and yeah what you just said too).
<hattivat> but they didn't thoroughly rape and sacrificially slaughter any particular country quite as hard as SA did Paraguay
<hattivat> so maybe Paraguay sufferred so that Lord Dagon keep Spanish united
<hattivat> bofh: read up on Ustaše for starters
<bofh> ugh. yepppppp, I should reread that...
<kmath> https://twitter.com/AscendingNode/status/923230065470554112 <AscendingNode> Sidenote: I should make the coffee *before* I try to fit potential alien spaceship orbits.
<hattivat> that's of course just the Serbian part of the story
<hattivat> the Croat side is for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chetniks
<bofh> Yep, WWII for the Balkan Slavs (actually, for everyone, but especially the * Slavs) was a terrifying terrible disasterfuck of evil.
<bofh> :/
<hattivat> plus the long-standing Serbian insistence that Croats are just 'mountain Slavs' to be forcibly united with the motherland at any cost
<hattivat> see: WW I and the insane Serbian losses sustained in it
<hattivat> s/Slavs/Serbs
<Qboid> hattivat meant to say: plus the long-standing Serbian insistence that Croats are just 'mountain Serbs' to be forcibly united with the motherland at any cost
<egg> !wpn hattivat
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<egg> !wpn whitequark
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<hattivat> cooool
<egg> !wpn bofh
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<egg> 貓
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn egg
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<kmath> <MicroSFF> That is not dead which can eternal lie, hovering above the unreachable, enticing, stygian abyss of sleep. "No more coffee," Cthulhu sighed.
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<UmbralRaptor> ;choose eat dinner|blow data plan downloading climate CSVs
<kmath> UmbralRaptor: blow data plan downloading climate CSVs
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<kmath> <PlanetaryGao> In conclusion, clouds clouds clouds clouds clouds clouds clouds clouds clouds clouds clouds clouds clouds clouds clouds clouds #BDEXOCON
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