raptop changed the topic of #principia to: READ THE FAQ: http://goo.gl/gMZF9H; The current version is Fréchet. We currently target 1.5.1, 1.6.1, and 1.7.x. <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly… | <egg> also 4e16 m * 2^-52 is uncomfortably large
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Falcon. — what was the law of physics again that dictated an object move about its short axis first or something when rotating?
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Falcon. — specifically the astronaut unscrewing a handle comes to mind
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Falcon. — cant remember what exactly it is
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Butcher. — I'm a few miles from the airport.
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Butcher. — Fine, working from home, I quite like being home all the time.
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Damien. — you and me both
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Damien. — I've collated some useful links re: covid legislation and guidance so I canm throw it at my employer when they start taking notice of the media and not the law
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Damien. — I've collated some useful links re: covid legislation and guidance so I can throw it at my employer when they start taking notice of the media and not the law (edited)
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Butcher. — It's been quiet with so few planes.
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Butcher. — My employer is very good. No issue with going back, my boss had covid which helps I think.
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Butcher. — Also we're a company of 5 people so there's less of the faceless management thing.
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Damien. — mine had a suspected case but I think he's getting cabin fever
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Damien. — he lives local to the office so him and his brother have been going there to do stuff together
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Damien. — I'm an hour away so nope to that one
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Damien. — I'm getting more done from home anyway with no stress
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Damien. — 2-2.5hrs/day back on my commute, plus there's not the arrive to work and get ready to gog home lag time you get
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Damien. — 2-2.5hrs/day back on my commute, plus there's not the arrive to work and get ready to go home lag time you get (edited)
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Damien. — fall out of bed, work
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Butcher. — Yeah, my commute is more like 25 minutes but still nice not to have it.
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Damien. — if I get stuff done at night to have a skive the following day so be it
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Damien. — who cares
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Butcher. — Hmm, 589 days to build for my orbital rocket, how much will tooling reduce it.
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Damien. — quicksave so you can go back
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Butcher. — I did.
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Butcher. — 114 days.
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Butcher. — We're in buusiness boys.
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Damien. — noice
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Butcher. — Fully guided first orbit.
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Damien. — I'm still messing about in JNSQ
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Butcher. — This is sweet, no tweaking unguided kicks.
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Damien. — I'll restart RP-1 but cba right now
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Butcher. — I have basically built Thor-Able.
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Butcher. — 9998 dV.
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Damien. — I'm sure you can squeeze one more out of it
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Butcher. — I might go for Polar as well as first orbit.
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Butcher. — This things has the legs for it I think.
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Damien. — I reinstalled my RP-1 setup intending to play, but then my oldfaithful SR designs wouldn't work right (principia bug or far changes) so I noped out
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Damien. — I reinstalled my RP-1 setup intending to play, but then my old faithful SR designs wouldn't work right (principia bug or far changes) so I noped out (edited)
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Damien. — don't have the patience to deal with that right now
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Butcher. — I'm doing ok with principia test.
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Damien. — I think mine was a combination of that, and far heating being worse and my SRs being highly aggressive on cone pointiness and fin strength
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Damien. — my JNSQ setup is really chill due to stock gameplay, but interesting enough because of the larger system
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Damien. — it's a nice balance for casual games
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Damien. — doing simple missions in interesting ways is the way I'm playing
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Damien. — probe to orbit the mun? low energy transfer via the sun
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Damien. — etc
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Damien. — solid practice if nothing else
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Profiremu23. — Yeah, imagine KSP 2 makes the planets 2.7 scale from stock
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Profiremu23. — This post maded by gang
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Damien. — I hope they do
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Damien. — stock parts fit really well with 2.5
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Profiremu23. — Yeah
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Profiremu23. — I dont know why Squad not maked the default solar system 1:4 real scale
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Profiremu23. — Like Kerbin has 1600 km radius
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I tend to use this via either CIRC (chrome-based client) or Revolution IRC (an Android client)
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to belatedly answer the questions about IRC
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Damien. — egg puts on his robe and wizard's hat
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Butcher. — I remember the good old days of irc.
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Damien. — add me on icq or msn kthxbai
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Damien. — not aol messenger though, that's for normies
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Sir Mortimer. — 9664448
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Sir Mortimer. — my ICQ number
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Sir Mortimer. — still know it
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Damien. — lol I've long forgot mine
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Butcher. — I had a sweet 6 digit one.
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Butcher. — My cat is less studious, but more nosey than egg's.
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egg. — Yes, because you are looking at it differently
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egg. — it is the same orbit
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egg. — That UCSI plot is perfectly normal, it is simply in UCSI
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egg. — > a really wonky orbit that i know isnt right
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egg. — A trajectory that you don’t know how to interpret perhaps, but one that is perfectly right
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Falcon. — im saying that it is wonky because the Max tolerance one shows an orbit just beyond jupiter vs the other one which shows an orbit just before uranus
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egg. — ah, in that sense
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Falcon. — yes
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egg. — yeah high tolerances will lead to wrong trajectories
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egg. — OK, no idea about the weird error message
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Falcon. — i figured yeah, higher tolerance means more deviation
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[Principia] eggrobin opened issue #2583: The flight plan should surface unexpected statuses - https://git.io/Jfz8L
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egg. — please save this
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Falcon. — anything you would suggest to do?
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egg. — save it
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Falcon. — save the game and send the persistent here?
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egg. — we will make the error message more useful in the next release
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egg. — and then you can try looking at it again and maybe we can understand something
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egg. — (but you can only come back to it if you have saved it, so save it)
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Falcon. — im uploading the specific save so i can let you look at it
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egg. — Turn journaling on, switch scenes, go back to somewhere where you see the flight plan and the error message, turn journalling off
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egg. — no
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egg. — we will not look at your save
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egg. — this is an RSS/RO save, we are not going to spend hours replicating your setup to look at it
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egg. — you can record a journal and we might look at that
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Falcon. — ah, i thought you could just look at the Principia data in side the save
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Falcon. — my bad
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Falcon. — i will journal the next time i play^^
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Falcon. — ah, i thought you could just look at the Principia data inside the save (edited)
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egg. — Hm, good point
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egg. — but it might be a bit tedious to dig through the save for the right flight plan
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egg. — I guess it can’t hurt to upload a save, not sure whether we’ll do anything with it though
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Falcon. — https://1drv.ms/u/s!Arq6VxtxpZ4_hMZTqoJSFfL38tIdyQ?e=TFWYPr here it is
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egg. — > @egg it was a bug that would have gone undetected forever. I forgot to set the current game time in one case.
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egg. — @Sir Mortimer \o/ I catch bugs
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egg. — @Falcon I suspect the status is `DEADLINE_EXCEEDED`, so we are still catching up with your implied request to compute 8000 days of solar system evolution.
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egg. — I am not completely sure whether this goes away on its own, or whether you have to keep nudging the flight plan for us to keep pushing the solar system
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[Principia] eggrobin commented on issue #2583: The flight plan should surface unexpected statuses - https://git.io/Jfz8i
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Falcon. — nudging the flight plan for us to keep pushing the solar system? as in keep waiting or fiddling with it?
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egg. — I forget how it works exactly
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egg. — The way it should work is that, in that case, it should keep trying until it has caused 8000 days of solar system to be computed
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egg. — it might instead require you to keep yanking on the slider to keep trying though
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egg. — I added a comment on the issue to that effect
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Falcon. — yup, read it, your use of english is rather good in regards to how you explained the extra comment, xD
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Falcon. — like... words i havent used in forever